Is anything actually happening.

[Ric Flair]

On 06/01/2026 at 10:47, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Self imposed ban on transfer fees to aid in the defence of our financial mismanagement charges

That does appear to be what we are doing. Pathetic if so 😂😂😂 

[coolhandfox]

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

That does appear to be what we are doing. Pathetic if so 😂😂😂 

Or simply part of sorting our finances out.

 

Spend nothing, wait for all the high earners to disappear in the summer and start over.

 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

11 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

That does appear to be what we are doing. Pathetic if so 😂😂😂 

If they actually told people the plan I think most would be on board with it. It's an open goal, admit they have made mistakes, say they're focusing on youth etc, most people would cut them some slack.

 

But we're North Korea so we get nothing and people's speculation fills the void.

[pmcla26]

17 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

If they actually told people the plan I think most would be on board with it. It's an open goal, admit they have made mistakes, say they're focusing on youth etc, most people would cut them some slack.

 

But we're North Korea so we get nothing and people's speculation fills the void.

Considering the way the club has conducted itself the last few years, I suspect they'd rather do the whole "we told you so" thing after the summer.

 

That or they'll just be stubborn and sign more crap, overpaid older players in the summer to replace the ones on their way out. 

[Ric Flair]

35 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Or simply part of sorting our finances out.

 

Spend nothing, wait for all the high earners to disappear in the summer and start over.

 

 

Unless we are currently right on the wire in 25/26 to comply with PSR if we don't get promoted, with a robust strategy, the net effect should be financially similar except for benefitting from carefully selected targets this season rather than waiting until " the high earners have gone ".

 

What I mean by that is, if we bought a striker for £3m and a LB for £2m on 4 year deals this season that would have cost around £1.25m on amortised transfer fees and probably £3m in wages and fees. So £4.25m. If we already have a modest buffer on PSR then allowable losses over a 3 year period whether we have spent it this season or next is unlikely to be that significant.

 

I suspect though, we don't have a robust strategy, are fearful we have other breaches to come and you could argue as we are not going up this season bar a miracle, what's the point in making more signings to just come a few places higher in midtable.

 

It would hopefully increase squad worth and stave off fears of relegation should any points deduction we get put us closer to the bottom three and also if we do get a transfer embargo we have a couple of priority positions that we find difficult to improve. 

 

 

[Pliskin]

36 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Or simply part of sorting our finances out.

 

Spend nothing, wait for all the high earners to disappear in the summer and start over.

 

 

It’s a massive risk, especially when it’s highly likely we’re a bad run away from being in the bottom three….. to do this you’d have to be completely satisfied you won’t go down, and I don’t think we can be……

[ClaphamFox]

33 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Or simply part of sorting our finances out.

 

Spend nothing, wait for all the high earners to disappear in the summer and start over.

 

 

It is increasingly feeling like we just need to somehow scrabble together enough points this season to absorb the points deduction without being relegated. Next summer a lot of players will leave—some of whom we'll be glad to see the back of, others less so—and a genuine rebuild will begin. How much money we'll have for that is anybody's guess, particularly as there is likely to be a major drop in season ticket renewals. It will feel like we've gone back in time 15 years, but that feels almost welcome after the horrors of the past few years.

[FoxinNotts]

No

[lcfcbluearmy]

2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

If they actually told people the plan I think most would be on board with it. It's an open goal, admit they have made mistakes, say they're focusing on youth etc, most people would cut them some slack.

 

But we're North Korea so we get nothing and people's speculation fills the void.

They would have to have a plan to be able to tell us what it is

[pkonline]

Assuming nothing incoming unless we ship a few a out - which we struggle to do!

[LCFCCKEANO]

What is the point of trying to increase communications when all you do is release false information to placate for a month or two, in full knowledge that you will be found out in the next window again, it happens every single window, absolute lip service. I’m sure we will panic loan someone on Jan 31st, then will come out talking about how difficult it has been due to psr, then there will be a story in a paper with information ‘leaked’ from the club in March saying we will sign ten in the summer. Rinse and repeat, boring

[coolhandfox]

4 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Unless we are currently right on the wire in 25/26 to comply with PSR if we don't get promoted, with a robust strategy, the net effect should be financially similar except for benefitting from carefully selected targets this season rather than waiting until " the high earners have gone ".

 

What I mean by that is, if we bought a striker for £3m and a LB for £2m on 4 year deals this season that would have cost around £1.25m on amortised transfer fees and probably £3m in wages and fees. So £4.25m. If we already have a modest buffer on PSR then allowable losses over a 3 year period whether we have spent it this season or next is unlikely to be that significant.

 

I suspect though, we don't have a robust strategy, are fearful we have other breaches to come and you could argue as we are not going up this season bar a miracle, what's the point in making more signings to just come a few places higher in midtable.

 

It would hopefully increase squad worth and stave off fears of relegation should any points deduction we get put us closer to the bottom three and also if we do get a transfer embargo we have a couple of priority positions that we find difficult to improve. 

 

 

 

It’s difficult to be certain without the full 24/25 accounts, but from a PSR perspective our position for 25/26 doesn’t look particularly strong. Our amortisation remains relatively high at around £40m, which isn’t far off the £46m recorded in 23/24.

If we use the other expenditure and income from our Championship season as a guide, and then adjust for the transfer income we do know — roughly £43m, which is around £30m less than our sales in 23/24 — we are likely heading for a loss of around £40m in the 25/26 season. For PSR purposes, this would translate to an adjusted loss of approximately £22m. 

 

Now, I would hope we've shaved off some expenditure on wages with the players who have left, such as Vardy, Ndidi, and others. That should provide at least some relief against the wider PSR pressures, even if it doesn’t fully offset the drop in transfer income. Depending on what the final figures from the Premier League season look like, we could have anything from around £20m of PSR headroom to only a couple of million

 

You also have to factor in whether the owner is still willing to keep putting his hand in his pocket to cover the losses. Every extra pound we lose is another pound he has to fund. 

 

On top of that, we still haven’t appointed a technical director, and we have a manager who may or may not be here for the long term. With that instability, and our recent track record, would you really be inclined to splash the cash? Especially when we’re unlikely to either go up or go down this season.

 

Next season we have around a £23m reduction in amortisation to roughly 17m, which will give us much more financial wiggle room. Hopefully we’ll also have a technical director in place to help guide the rebuild and make sure we bring in the right players.”

 

Holding back on business will make the job bigger, but Sunderland showed last season that you can still have a massive turnover of players and get promoted.

Edited 8 January by coolhandfox

[Vindaloo FOX]

Cody Drameh

[HankMarvin]

10 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

 

It’s difficult to be certain without the full 24/25 accounts, but from a PSR perspective our position for 25/26 doesn’t look particularly strong. Our amortisation remains relatively high at around £40m, which isn’t far off the £46m recorded in 23/24.

If we use the other expenditure and income from our Championship season as a guide, and then adjust for the transfer income we do know — roughly £43m, which is around £30m less than our sales in 23/24 — we are likely heading for a loss of around £40m in the 25/26 season. For PSR purposes, this would translate to an adjusted loss of approximately £22m. 

 

Now, I would hope we've shaved off some expenditure on wages with the players who have left, such as Vardy, Ndidi, and others. That should provide at least some relief against the wider PSR pressures, even if it doesn’t fully offset the drop in transfer income. Depending on what the final figures from the Premier League season look like, we could have anything from around £20m of PSR headroom to only a couple of million

 

You also have to factor in whether the owner is still willing to keep putting his hand in his pocket to cover the losses. Every extra pound we lose is another pound he has to fund. 

 

On top of that, we still haven’t appointed a technical director, and we have a manager who may or may not be here for the long term. With that instability, and our recent track record, would you really be inclined to splash the cash? Especially when we’re unlikely to either go up or go down this season.

 

Next season we have around a £23m reduction in amortisation to roughly 17m, which will give us much more financial wiggle room. Hopefully we’ll also have a technical director in place to help guide the rebuild and make sure we bring in the right players.”

 

Next season we have a £17m reduction in amortisation, which will give us much more financial wiggle room. Hopefully we’ll also have a technical director in place to help guide the rebuild and make sure we bring in the right players.

 

Holding back on business will make the job bigger, but Sunderland showed last season that you can still have a massive turnover of players and get promoted.

Do your calculations allow for the 22m drop in PSR since the last time we were in the champ?

I think many including yourself did these calculations last season and expected us to spend this season.

 

Year one parachute payment is 55% market share 

second year is 45% 

third year is 20% 

 

So straight away next season there is £7m/8m less income.
Leeds went up the second year but sold assets worth  €162m which also allowed them to spend €32m

Just having the wage bill reduction isn’t going to be enough.

Lets hope the likes of Monga, Nelson as home grown or Fatawu can command significant funds because our squad is pretty limited at the moment 

 

 

[coolhandfox]

24 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Do your calculations allow for the 22m drop in PSR since the last time we were in the champ?

I think many including yourself did these calculations last season and expected us to spend this season.

 

Year one parachute payment is 55% market share 

second year is 45% 

third year is 20% 

 

So straight away next season there is £7m/8m less income.
Leeds went up the second year but sold assets worth  €162m which also allowed them to spend €32m

Just having the wage bill reduction isn’t going to be enough.

Lets hope the likes of Monga, Nelson as home grown or Fatawu can command significant funds because our squad is pretty limited at the moment 

 

 

I was expecting more out goings this summer and some better transfer fees 

 

They aren’t really calculations, more like rough estimates. I expect us to lose over £40m this season, and without the Premier League 24/25 figures it’s impossible to know exactly how much PSR room we’ll have for this season.

 

That’s why I said it could be anywhere from around £20m to only a couple of million.

 

As you said, our income will drop massively next year — but our expenditure should fall as well. Amortisation is due to reduce by about £23m, and I’d have thought our wages will drop by a good £20m too.

 

 

 

Edited 8 January by coolhandfox

[fleshdaddy]

Any competent club or personnel, you'd like to think, would be busy trying to offload players that are out of contract in six months to, you know, at least try to get some money for them instead of them walking for free. I stress trying to offload the players, as I'd imagine it's no easy task but it's definitely possible - and if you do manage to offload one or two, perhaps you can then bring in one or two and freshen things up to try and mount a bit of a push for the rest of the season.

 

However with us, the key word is competent. I bet we're just doing nothing and sticking as we are - with more assets (in the loosest possible terms) walking for free.

 

Cheers Rudkin, cheers Top! 

[moore_94]

Only changes will be the squad being smaller than it was at the start of the window - we won’t sign anyone

 

 

 

Edited 8 January by moore_94

[Tuna]

We're obviously looking at striker so I'd expect one in, probably on loan and hopefully a 10 as well. Simply not enough numbers in the squad.

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, moore_94 said:

Only changes will be the squad being smaller than it was at the start of the window - we won’t sign anyone

 

 

 

Not really what his said.

[JimJams]

We should go back to Joao Rego who we wanted on loan in the summer.  Not getting much look in at Benfica.

[moore_94]

17 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Not really what his said.

What I am expecting though

[Pita]

3 hours ago, fleshdaddy said:

Any competent club or personnel, you'd like to think, would be busy trying to offload players that are out of contract in six months to, you know, at least try to get some money for them instead of them walking for free. I stress trying to offload the players, as I'd imagine it's no easy task but it's definitely possible - and if you do manage to offload one or two, perhaps you can then bring in one or two and freshen things up to try and mount a bit of a push for the rest of the season.

 

However with us, the key word is competent. I bet we're just doing nothing and sticking as we are - with more assets (in the loosest possible terms) walking for free.

 

Cheers Rudkin, cheers Top! 

Last day of the window something will happen Rudkin will sign some no hopers who are crippled or just useless 

[Analysethis]

Who is decision making for the womens team? They seem to get things done quicker than the mens!!

[Guest BlueApple]

8 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Only changes will be the squad being smaller than it was at the start of the window - we won’t sign anyone

 

 

 

Come Feb we'll have made no signings, the manager will complain about the board promising signings and we'll have a new manager next season, then repeat the process again and again. 

Edited 8 January by BlueApple

[Trav Le Bleu]

On 06/01/2026 at 10:18, sulfoxide said:

Too quiet on the transfer front.

It's the middle of the night, give them a break!