Gary Rowett

[Les-TA-Jon]

11 minutes ago, CL Fox said:

You can have more metrics if you want?

 

9 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Needs to start winning more games and I guess it wouldn’t even be a topic up for discussion. 
For the record Bloomfield has come in at Oxford and is earning more points per game and doing a better job. So I don’t think it’s quite as clear cut as some imagine.

We are certainly easier on the eye to watch but at the end of the day it’s a results business and accumulating a point a game doesn’t look like it will be enough when others at the bottom excluding Portsmouth are getting more points currently.

Obviously it goes without saying that without wins/results that get us safe, it's a moot discussion as to whether Rowett is better/worse than Cifuentes. Personally, from what I've seen we're playing 'better' but ultimately whether it's a platform or not to get the wins we need in this final stretch (obviously) remains to be seen. Let's not also discount just how shite our squad is and how poor the application of the players is...

[Foxin_Mad]

You also have to take into account he is trying to turn around a demoralised, out of form, low in confidence team. That's a totally different starting point from taking over in preseason and throughout that season performances getting worse and worse, conceding goals for fun. Hes been brought in to do a rescue job of a team that is a mess. 

 

I don't really care about lucky points per game stats, that were not deserved. I've watched every game we have largely been horrific, to the point I absolutely dreaded the next game. By measure of its not quite that bad now, there has been an improvement.

 

Of course the Jury is still out on Rowett but there is absolutely no defence of Cifuentes. He is undoubtably one of the worst managers that we have had, absolutely woeful. there was absolutely nothing good about anything he did, the football was mind numbingly bad, the defending atrocious, the fitness abysmal, pretty much every player regressed even further under him. We were going only one place under him, it maybe too late to turn it around but we had to try something as he had no skill to turn it around. 

[LCFCJohn]

2 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I don't see how anyone who has actually watched the utter incoherent sideways and backwards shit his teams served up, could defend him. Honestly 6 points were maybe deserved, the rest very very lucky. 

Yeah, I felt we were very lucky not to be lower in the league before he left and before the deduction. All the underlying data put us as a bottom 3 team. 
 

Obviously we are far from perfect under Rowett and the mental baggage of this team is hard to unpick. But we have had 4 away games, 2 of them at 2 of the top 3 and could have won any one of them in their own right. Stoke and Watford are the obvious ones but Middlesbrough we played well. Norwich was disappointing that even as an in form side, we didn’t trouble them. And QPR was an absolute shambles. But we had so many of those under Cifuentes, Southamton away, Sheff Utd x 2, QPR away, Watford on Boxing Day, Charlton at home come to mind. 

[Dan]

I don't even think we started that well really. The results were alright, but I kept saying it during the time, we will not keep this up playing like that.

 

Sheff Weds - won but we scraped it in the most presentable opening day you could have

Preston - totally outplayed and lost

Charlton - totally outplayed and won

Birmingham - steady defensive display but wasn't hugely convincing either

Oxford - really odd game, second best at 11 v 11 but ended up coming back to draw at 11 v 10 and looked better after the red

Coventry - still possibly our best 90 of the season but drew

WBA - crap performance and lucky to draw

 

This left us about 4th but we were not playing well. Granted I think we have gotten worse since it.

[CosbehFox]

6 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

He was on a massive downward trajectory. Honestly I have never seen a team so badly coached, awful, getting worse week on week. He picked up a few lucky wins thanks from moments of quality from Abdul and James. He was a shit manager, and he was taking us down. I invite people to list the number of games won under the useless shit that we actually deserved to win and looked better than the opposition, I count 2 at best. 

Not a lot changed there in the past seven games either 

[CosbehFox]

4 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

You also have to take into account he is trying to turn around a demoralised, out of form, low in confidence team. That's a totally different starting point from taking over in preseason and throughout that season performances getting worse and worse, conceding goals for fun. Hes been brought in to do a rescue job of a team that is a mess. 

 

I don't really care about lucky points per game stats, that were not deserved. I've watched every game we have largely been horrific, to the point I absolutely dreaded the next game. By measure of its not quite that bad now, there has been an improvement.

 

Of course the Jury is still out on Rowett but there is absolutely no defence of Cifuentes. He is undoubtably one of the worst managers that we have had, absolutely woeful. there was absolutely nothing good about anything he did, the football was mind numbingly bad, the defending atrocious, the fitness abysmal, pretty much every player regressed even further under him. We were going only one place under him, it maybe too late to turn it around but we had to try something as he had no skill to turn it around. 

See you are missing one important part there. 
 

Cifuenties had a summer dealing with players wanting out of the club. Sometimes he was allowed to play players and other times he was told not to. At least two of them kicking their toys out of their pram. It wasn’t some rosy garden back in August.

 

The performances weren’t even all that but he threw in a lot of youngsters across August who got decent results. It was unsurprising when all these players wanted off again in January, they downed tools and turned in some woeful performances after a decent December 

 

You keep harping back as though people are saying he’s a good manager but no one is. 

 

Both managers have had factors outside of on the pitch performance but Rowett has factually put us deeper in the mire 

[Parafox]

3 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Not a lot changed there in the past seven games either 

Whilst we are were we are and under our current ownership with Top who couldn't GAF, we're never going to bag a manager that wants to take us on and Top and that other bloke don't have the nouse or insight or desire (in Top's case) to find someone that could take us forward.

 

We're stuffed for some years to come. I doubt we'll ever get back to PL never mind Champinship.

[Foxin_Mad]

14 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

Not a lot changed there in the past seven games either 

Quite a lot has changed, do you actually watch every game? To say there hasn't been some improvement of performance since he has come in is just not what the eyes are showing. Ok I agree the results could be better but performance wise there is a better trend, it takes time to revert the absolute rot of the last 9 months+. We need to begin to convert performances to points absolutely. 

 

14 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

See you are missing one important part there. 
 

Cifuenties had a summer dealing with players wanting out of the club. Sometimes he was allowed to play players and other times he was told not to. At least two of them kicking their toys out of their pram. It wasn’t some rosy garden back in August.

 

The performances weren’t even all that but he threw in a lot of youngsters across August who got decent results. It was unsurprising when all these players wanted off again in January, they downed tools and turned in some woeful performances after a decent December 

 

You keep harping back as though people are saying he’s a good manager but no one is. 

 

Both managers have had factors outside of on the pitch performance but Rowett has factually put us deeper in the mire 

Its a managers job to do that, he knew the situation when he came in. The situation in August was considerably better than the one he left us in! He did nothing to improve anything. 

 

Again there is probably 1 or 2 games under his tenure I could say we were worthy of a win.

 

Why are people sticking up for him, he was evidently an out of his depth shit clown who never should have got the job, but he factually left us in a worse position than he found us. People make excuses for him but his atrocious style and inability to do football basics like defend or run were his biggest failures. If anything he has ruined or set back at best some of the younger players, throwing them in to games with terrible performances, no support from senior players and negative incoherent tactics. He managed them poorly with little direction and now a lot of them look very low on confidence and need careful man management to come back. 

[Clever Fox]

If we are to get out of this mess he's got to try something different instead of Ayew and Daka. 

Doing the same thing every game and expecting a different result is just crazy. 

We need someone to win the ball high up the pitch and capitalise off the scraps. 

[moore_94]

Just now, Clever Fox said:

If we are to get out of this mess he's got to try something different instead of Ayew and Daka. 

Doing the same thing every game and expecting a different result is just crazy. 

We need someone to win the ball high up the pitch and capitalise off the scraps. 

Incredibly disappointing he has said he will be sticking with Ayew and Daka

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gary-rowett-shoots-down-leicester-10900727

 

“These are things you look at and we have quite a few young forwards in and around the club,” Rowett said. “But we have two very experienced forwards.

 

“Of course you look at different areas and different profiles, but the reality is that in the desperation for goals, I’m not going to stick someone up there who’s never played as a striker before. The reality is I don’t think that’s going to work.

 

“It’s a case of encouraging Pato and Jordan, the two experienced members of the squad. Jordan scored a fantastic goal for Ghana and Pato scored a great goal for us against Ipswich.

 

“It’s about giving them the environment, platform and support to go and be the best they can.

 

“At this stage, I don’t think there’s a magic recipe. If there was someone that was going to score lots and lots of goals, they’d be put in. There’s no manager that wouldn’t do that.

 

“It’s something we need to improve as it’s something that could define our season. We need to keep working on solutions.”

[splinterdream]

1 minute ago, moore_94 said:

Incredibly disappointing he has said he will be sticking with Ayew and Daka

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gary-rowett-shoots-down-leicester-10900727

 

“These are things you look at and we have quite a few young forwards in and around the club,” Rowett said. “But we have two very experienced forwards.

 

“Of course you look at different areas and different profiles, but the reality is that in the desperation for goals, I’m not going to stick someone up there who’s never played as a striker before. The reality is I don’t think that’s going to work.

 

“It’s a case of encouraging Pato and Jordan, the two experienced members of the squad. Jordan scored a fantastic goal for Ghana and Pato scored a great goal for us against Ipswich.

 

“It’s about giving them the environment, platform and support to go and be the best they can.

 

“At this stage, I don’t think there’s a magic recipe. If there was someone that was going to score lots and lots of goals, they’d be put in. There’s no manager that wouldn’t do that.

 

“It’s something we need to improve as it’s something that could define our season. We need to keep working on solutions.”

Ayew thing is deffo a contractual thing, he's not even a striker, so the experience thing is a load of BS. 

[Collymore]

2 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

It’s a case of encouraging Pato and Jordan, the two experienced members of the squad. Jordan scored a fantastic goal for Ghana and Pato scored a great goal for us against Ipswich.

This bit is so naive from him. It's as if the club or their Leicester careers didn't exist before he joined. He needs to take in the whole picture and see how these frauds have performed for multiple managers. 

 

Not only that, why should you need to "encourage" senior experienced pros to perform? 

 

Shocking mindset from Rowett there and he's making himself part of the problem by not doing the basics with squad selection. 

[Clever Fox]

7 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Incredibly disappointing he has said he will be sticking with Ayew and Daka

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gary-rowett-shoots-down-leicester-10900727

 

“These are things you look at and we have quite a few young forwards in and around the club,” Rowett said. “But we have two very experienced forwards.

 

“Of course you look at different areas and different profiles, but the reality is that in the desperation for goals, I’m not going to stick someone up there who’s never played as a striker before. The reality is I don’t think that’s going to work.

 

“It’s a case of encouraging Pato and Jordan, the two experienced members of the squad. Jordan scored a fantastic goal for Ghana and Pato scored a great goal for us against Ipswich.

 

“It’s about giving them the environment, platform and support to go and be the best they can.

 

“At this stage, I don’t think there’s a magic recipe. If there was someone that was going to score lots and lots of goals, they’d be put in. There’s no manager that wouldn’t do that.

 

“It’s something we need to improve as it’s something that could define our season. We need to keep working on solutions.”

I hadn't read that, but it's just daft to hope that they'll start scoring all of a sudden. 

Given our need for results he's surely got to be trying something different in training for match days. 

A little route one approach would at least confuse the opposition. 

[john ridley]

It will define our season  when we're  relegated. 

[ronnup]

Good idea. Keep trying the same thing that hasn't worked for 2 years

[MonarchFox]

He's got doggo options though hasn't he.  Probably just trying to instill some confidence into our weak minded forwards.

 

Everything else is just an experiment.  I'd try Bobby upfront and maybe Monga behind. Mavadidi not up to it

[Claudio Fannieri]

Got to be honest even if we stay up I really haven’t seen enough from him to give me any confidence he is the man for next season or long term. 

[CL Fox]

On 24/03/2026 at 15:48, Les-TA-Jon said:

 

Obviously it goes without saying that without wins/results that get us safe, it's a moot discussion as to whether Rowett is better/worse than Cifuentes. Personally, from what I've seen we're playing 'better' but ultimately whether it's a platform or not to get the wins we need in this final stretch (obviously) remains to be seen. Let's not also discount just how shite our squad is and how poor the application of the players is...

Hes worse than Marti. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

1-0 up inside 3 minutes and a chance to really go at them and bury them instead we dropped right off and let them back in. Far too cautious as a manager. No better than King or Marti. 

[Langston]

Expectations were that he'd be a 5/10 and get just about enough points to keep us up..  Reality is he's been worse than the already underwhelming expectations of him..

[JonnyBoy]

He’s been absolutely shite let’s be honest. Even start of this half just don’t seem arsed about attacking their box 

[Sly]

You can see why Oxford put him in the bin. 

[Muzzy_no7]

Just now, An Away Move said:

If we don’t get a goal or two in this match I think we’re down. 

No doubt about it, if we fail to win this game we are down. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

We are so passive, this is do or die and yet we still look in 2nd gear. Real lack of urgency given our predicament. 

[Sly]

Do you sack him if we lose this?
 

Seriously question.