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Posted (edited)

Actually felt less anxious watching the game tonight. Apart from Okoli’s usual distribution error leading to a goal, we defended better than we have all season. As others have said, great to see fight, effort and determination. A promising start. Now we need to build on this on Saturday. 

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Let’s not get carried away, some of the responses are a bit wild….. “fantastic point” “great result”….

 

I would argue it wasn’t at all we need wins, not draws. The performance was that of a team that are clearly being drilled to be more organised. 
 

I thought Boro were shite, and our game was pretty much over when Ayew came on. 
 

I don’t blame Gary, I think he’s the rough choice in this situation, but thanks to the willy pullers that run the club it took us the best part of a month to employ him when he was out of work….. and that’s what’s going to relegate us….

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2 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Let’s not get carried away, some of the responses are a bit wild….. “fantastic point” “great result”….

 

I would argue it wasn’t at all we need wins, not draws. The performance was that of a team that are clearly being drilled to be more organised. 
 

I thought Boro were shite, and our game was pretty much over when Ayew came on. 
 

I don’t blame Gary, I think he’s the rough choice in this situation, but thanks to the willy pullers that run the club it took us the best part of a month to employ him when he was out of work….. and that’s what’s going to relegate us….

Any team third from bottom, would be happy with a point away at second in the league…..West Ham at Man City for example….

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Think i say that if Marti or Kingy was still in charge we would have been well beaten. Soon as they score are heads would have dropped.

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7 minutes ago, Reg Vardy said:

Any team third from bottom, would be happy with a point away at second in the league…..West Ham at Man City for example….

**** me, comparing Boro V us to Man City, West Ham, but ****ing different in Thai farmers league. 
 

Really? It’s a more positive result than our recent, by my Lord the reaction was ridiculous from some…. We should have probably beaten them, I thought they were shit, as is everyone else in the league to be fair. 

 

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In the time hes had, id say the improvement is very good. What pisses me off is the points we would have got if they'd brought him in the day after Marti got sacked. Negligence 

 

It's a straight shoot out with Baggies now. They have sacked their manager. Pray they **** this appointment up

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22 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Let’s not get carried away, some of the responses are a bit wild….. “fantastic point” “great result”….

 

I would argue it wasn’t at all we need wins, not draws. The performance was that of a team that are clearly being drilled to be more organised. 
 

I thought Boro were shite, and our game was pretty much over when Ayew came on. 
 

I don’t blame Gary, I think he’s the rough choice in this situation, but thanks to the willy pullers that run the club it took us the best part of a month to employ him when he was out of work….. and that’s what’s going to relegate us….

 

If we win our home games and draw our away games we'll stay up. 

 

We need to start winning urgently yes but a point was a good result last night. Moreover, what really excited last night was seeing a team working and fighting for the most part. 

 

Skipp and Winks have looked really, really up for it the last two games and that could make a huge difference for us. We also have a coach that wants to actively press, at last, and the team are working hard. 

 

Our situation is a serious concern and we aren't out of the woods but we are only a few points behind with over 30 still to play for. 

 

It's not like there's only two or three games left and we've got nothing but cup finals to go. 

 

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13 minutes ago, ronnup said:

In the time hes had, id say the improvement is very good. What pisses me off is the points we would have got if they'd brought him in the day after Marti got sacked. Negligence 

 

It's a straight shoot out with Baggies now. They have sacked their manager. Pray they **** this appointment up

All the teams above us up to Charlton are catchable. In fact I have a feeling Charlton will get dragged in. We’ll finish 17th/18th.

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These are our remaining home games: Norwich, Preston, QPR, Bristol City, Swansea, Hull & Millwall. 
 

Obviously we aren’t great but no one in this league is any good. Home form is going to be massive. 

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1 minute ago, Rubbersoul said:

These are our remaining home games: Norwich, Preston, QPR, Bristol City, Swansea, Hull & Millwall. 
 

Obviously we aren’t great but no one in this league is any good. Home form is going to be massive. 

We need to win at least 4 of them. 

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We are better organised and Skipp and Winks are definitely putting in a shift in Midfield and Mukasa is offering a bit of attacking intent. The same problems  exist though. Mavididi either can’t be arsed or beats himself in his own head before attempting anything and Ayew is utterly repulsive.  He should have kept BDCR on and swapped him to the left for Mavididi when bringing on Fatawu and left Daka on until at least 80/85 minutes as he occupied their back line and actually did hold the ball up better today than he has for a while. Ayews selfish shot straight at their keeper sums him up when Mukasa is free on the edge of the box.

 

it just shows you how poor the league is and how far Marti’s appointment and abysmal coaching has dragged us down when we see teams like Boro and Stoke who are top two and have been in the top six respectively.

 

Rowett is no messiah but has given us all a bit of hope and made the team a bit harder to play through and I like the fact he kicks every ball and is constantly vocalising but why wasn’t he appointed 4 games previously?

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21 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

**** me, comparing Boro V us to Man City, West Ham, but ****ing different in Thai farmers league. 
 

Really? It’s a more positive result than our recent, by my Lord the reaction was ridiculous from some…. We should have probably beaten them, I thought they were shit, as is everyone else in the league to be fair. 

 

We made them look poor because on our day we are capable of making any team in this division look poor. Coventry are probably going to win the division and we should have beaten them at home and played them off the park in the first half at their place before Marti’s HT team talk destroyed our momentum.

 

We can do these things because we have several of the best players in the division. There is no doubt that the quality in our side is unevenly distributed and we have glaring weaknesses in certain areas, but overall our squad is good enough to be at least in the top six. Our problems this season have come from being mentally fragile, not an absence of quality. Rowett has come in and somehow immediately transformed the

mentality of the squad. Now the players believe in themselves, the superior quality of our squad compared to those around us will begin to show.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

All the teams above us up to Charlton are catchable. In fact I have a feeling Charlton will get dragged in. We’ll finish 17th/18th.

I hope you are right but also think Stoke may get dragged into it! Let’s see how they get on at home to Oxford tonight! Other than us and Wednesday they are their third worst in the form table.

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37 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

**** me, comparing Boro V us to Man City, West Ham, but ****ing different in Thai farmers league. 
 

Really? It’s a more positive result than our recent, by my Lord the reaction was ridiculous from some…. We should have probably beaten them, I thought they were shit, as is everyone else in the league to be fair. 

 

They might have been last night, but they are second in the league table, they never lie……who is sh*tater over the season so far, us or them…..think we know the answer to that one….

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6 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

We made them look poor because on our day we are capable of making any team in this division look poor. Coventry are probably going to win the division and we should have beaten them at home and played them off the park in the first half at their place before Marti’s HT team talk destroyed our momentum.

 

We can do these things because we have several of the best players in the division. There is no doubt that the quality in our side is unevenly distributed and we have glaring weaknesses in certain areas, but overall our squad is good enough to be at least in the top six. Our problems this season have come from being mentally fragile, not an absence of quality. Rowett has come in and somehow immediately transformed the

mentality of the squad. Now the players believe in themselves, the superior quality of our squad compared to those around us will begin to show.

 

 

I don’t disagree with you, and that’s the point I was trying to make, this league is unquestionably poor, and we do have the quality to be a lot higher than we are….. as you’ve said, Rowett will sort the foundations out and then the quality should come through. 

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I actually thought we were the better team yesterday but woeful decision making cost us both with their goal and with not having enough top chances of our own.

 

Contrary to other posts I think we should stay up relatively comfortably. I know it feels a lot like previous relegations, but we would stay up if PPG was extrapolated to the end of the season, and we have key players coming back soon who under Rowett should push us on. I think Vestergaard is a major miss, Okoli's mistake yesterday was incredibly frustrating. But still, we were decent against (apparently) a good team in the league last night and should have pushed on.

 

My biggest concern really is the lack of confidence in all areas of the pitch (mainly the back four and the attackers). I think a loss yesterday would have been a major issue on that basis. But if Rowett can get a bit of confidence into them and manage a couple of wins in the run in I think we stay up.

 

Also, thought Winks was a cut above yesterday and if he is playing to try and find a new club for the rest of the season that really will help us out.

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10 hours ago, Supergray22 said:

Agreed. It was only mavidi Ayew and haribo who I felt weren’t quite at the party. Mukasa is some talent. Might rub off on the likes of page and manga. To be fair to Rowett he probably has to watch their minutes given the big game on Saturday. 

I thought Mavididi did okay first half with his chasing back to get the ball. Decision making poor at times though.

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Rowett gets one free pass to use Ayew in a match - we're limited in options and he is one of our most experienced players, so makes sense. But now that he's seen him on the pitch I hope we never see him again. We'd genuinely be better off by taking a player off and playing with 10 men rather than having him ambling about.

 

 

 

Interesting to see which direction Rowett goes in with the defence - If we can get one clean sheet I think it'll make a massive difference and we'll see more follow, but hard to see us keeping 90mins of consistency to achieve that. Boro could've easily punished us more than just the single goal.

Ricardo is gone as a FB, Thomas is questionable (although I think he's actually OK going forward), and Okoli/Nelson doesn't inspire confidence. But with injuries, I don't know what else we can do. Hopefully a swift return for Lascelles - and maybe even Vestergaard - will make us a bit more solid...

 

 

More generally, I'm feeling positive about Rowett. It's an odd situation to judge, but he seems the right character for the situation and early signs are reasonably reassuring. 

 

 

 

 

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A lot more hopeful. We’ve got a lot of mid table to play at home and 7 home games too. Personally I think as little as 5 wins does. It would be above average if that’s the case. I still think there’s a team in that pack above that can fall like Stoke 

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I didn't see the game, but this has to be a point gained. The confidence must be non existent, there's always a mistake incoming & key player's missing.

 

Sounds like this was the best 90+ min performance of the season. Rowett has obviously got something about him, well done to him & his staff. 

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