Ipswich 1-1 LCFC - Post Match

[The_77]

3 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

Did they really create that many good chances? They had a lot of pressure but aside from that one scrappy bit and the goal, don't remember JS having to make many saves or them fluffing glorious chances. Their goal was fortunate and I think if you're a team down there, away from home, you deserve the luck.

We had a few very well-timed blocks and, don’t get me wrong, I’m thrilled we got the luck with the collective effort shown in our box.
 

But Ipswich did a lot more than “**** all” with the ball and I don’t think we should

imply it was an even half. 

[splinterdream]

42 minutes ago, Vacamion said:

 

It was men against boys 2nd half.

 

We shithoused the point, which may be very important.

 

It isn't Rowett's fault we have the most unfit side in the league but we are a very tough watch.

Yes fitness is clearly an issue, but so was our repeated errors from corners and free kicks allowing them free header on the back post.

 

Also was clear Daka was spent, it took an agr for Rowett to change it.

 

We dont seem to do ourselves any favours 

[jonny_wright]

1 minute ago, Ian Nacho said:

Can't believe some of the stuff saying today wasn't a good point. I get that the position we're in, a win would relieve a lot of pressure but when you go to a promotion chaser away from home when you're in a relegation battle any point is a positive, regardless of the performance. It should boost confidence going into the next two games which are must wins. 

This, and we’ve had an absolutely honking fixture schedule for the past few weeks

[Ian Nacho]

18 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Ok - im not buying the 'a good point' bollocks.

 

Ipswich were really poor first half, and i think huffed and puffed 2nd half. If they were remotely composed they win that easily. 

 

According to Footmob, we had a 2nd half XG of 0.04. Thats not a good point - its bordering on incompetence. We gave ourselves nothing to work with - at all. We couldn't mount a single counter - couldn't hold the ball in midfield. We literally handed them back possession in a variety of comical ways (defensive headers!).  This wasn't an Ipswich team head and shoulders above us. It's almost like the manager is instilling an inferiority complex into us.

 

I come out of this not thinking of a battling team who gave it there all, but one who couldn't quite believe they came off the pitch 1-1.

 

Simply terrible.

Couldn't disagree more. They're clearly streets ahead of us and we battled to get over the line with something. 

[Chelmofox]

Just now, Ian Nacho said:

Couldn't disagree more. They're clearly streets ahead of us and we battled to get over the line with something. 

So you are happy with an xg of 0.04, not a single counter attack, and just handing the ball back to them like a compliant child?

 

Worlds gone mad.

[Nods]

45 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Embarrassing their comms. Making it out like they should have won easy. They had all the ball 2nd half and did fck all with it. 

I mean I think they spent about half an hour in our box like, but apart from that...

[Nods]

20 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Ok - im not buying the 'a good point' bollocks.

 

Ipswich were really poor first half, and i think huffed and puffed 2nd half. If they were remotely composed they win that easily. 

 

According to Footmob, we had a 2nd half XG of 0.04. Thats not a good point - its bordering on incompetence. We gave ourselves nothing to work with - at all. We couldn't mount a single counter - couldn't hold the ball in midfield. We literally handed them back possession in a variety of comical ways (defensive headers!).  This wasn't an Ipswich team head and shoulders above us. It's almost like the manager is instilling an inferiority complex into us.

 

I come out of this not thinking of a battling team who gave it there all, but one who couldn't quite believe they came off the pitch 1-1.

 

Simply terrible.

It's not a good point because we played well. It'd a good point because we'd have taken it before the game. Because we're rubbish and we'll take what we can.

 

I agree Ipswich were rubbish but we were even worse.

 

I do agree the tactical set up was all wrong and we were lucky though. But you're misunderstanding what people mean when they say it's a good point. 

[Ian Nacho]

Just now, Chelmofox said:

So you are happy with an xg of 0.04, not a single counter attack, and just handing the ball back to them like a compliant child?

 

Worlds gone mad.

Xg doesn't win you any points. I get it gives you a view of how the game went but didn't give you a full picture. Performances don't matter too much at the moment. Just points. 

[pazzerfox]

25 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

They created nothing. They had all the ball and did nothing with it. Where are these 2 or 3 other great chances they had?

O'shea should have scored in the first half at the back post and he won every header from corners and set pieces. Admittedly, we threw bodies in front of the ball and we showed a bit of commitment, but I feel had the ball fell kinder to them, it could have been different. A well fought but fortunate point for me. 

[Vacamion]

7 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

Yes fitness is clearly an issue, but so was our repeated errors from corners and free kicks allowing them free header on the back post.

 

Also was clear Daka was spent, it took an agr for Rowett to change it.

 

We dont seem to do ourselves any favours 

 

Agree that our management of their corners was really poor, and we got away with it.

 

[Ian Nacho]

My main concern is we tend to look more up for it against the teams higher up the league. 

[dmayne7]

8 minutes ago, The_77 said:

We had a few very well-timed blocks and, don’t get me wrong, I’m thrilled we got the luck with the collective effort shown in our box.
 

But Ipswich did a lot more than “**** all” with the ball and I don’t think we should

imply it was an even half. 

I'm not suggesting it was or that they did nothing. But it would be equally false to suggest that they cut us open time after time and that we're indebted to poor finishing/a great performance from our keeper. They put us under a lot of pressure, but it was an awful lot of huff and puff without peppering the goal.

[dmayne7]

8 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

So you are happy with an xg of 0.04, not a single counter attack, and just handing the ball back to them like a compliant child?

 

Worlds gone mad.

The counter to the xg is that we had the better chances in the first half, yet the xg was still pitifully low

[The_77]

Just now, dmayne7 said:

I'm not suggesting it was or that they did nothing. But it would be equally false to suggest that they cut us open time after time and that we're indebted to poor finishing/a great performance from our keeper. They put us under a lot of pressure, but it was an awful lot of huff and puff without peppering the goal.

The dominated the half and won the half. OK, maybe they didn’t deserve four or five goals, but my reply was to the poster who said they didn’t do anything with the ball. 

[Chelmofox]

3 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

My main concern is we tend to look more up for it against the teams higher up the league. 

You thought we looked up for it?

[Ian Nacho]

1 minute ago, Chelmofox said:

You thought we looked up for it?

Can't fault the effort. Running stats must be way higher than usual. 

[Nods]

1 minute ago, dmayne7 said:

I'm not suggesting it was or that they did nothing. But it would be equally false to suggest that they cut us open time after time and that we're indebted to poor finishing/a great performance from our keeper. They put us under a lot of pressure, but it was an awful lot of huff and puff without peppering the goal.

They snatched at their chances and weren't composed. We were there for the taking and they failed. 

 

There was good desire to throw bodies on the line but from a footballing perspective we were lambs to the slaughter. Ipswich will be kicking themselves.

[ceebeefox]

14 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

Must have watched a different game re Fatawu as he worked his socks off. Had one lapse where he let his man go but look at how deep he was. Was poor going forward but that's probably because be was forced to be so defensively minded.

Yes Fatawu worked very hard, Mavs and BDR the invisible men, add to that Daka ( other than his goal and we played with 8 men. No wonder we have no XG.

[adam95581]

13 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

So you are happy with an xg of 0.04, not a single counter attack, and just handing the ball back to them like a compliant child?

 

Worlds gone mad.

In the context of where we are, a point away from home against statistically one of the best home sides in the league, sitting in 3rd at kick off is a good point. 

We’re at stage where points are more important than performances. 

[lookwhaticando]

46 minutes ago, Vacamion said:

 

I posted in the match thread that I could sort of understand it, bringing Ayew on for 10 minutes if Daka is spent.

 

Then Ayew just after coming on, did that throwing himself backwards thing just inside Ipswich's half, didn't get the decision (correctly), didn't track back when he'd lost the ball and Ipswich nearly scored.

 

I take it back.

Get Jamaal or Aluko on and send Okoli up top. 

 

In this day and age, there’s no need for Jordan ‘the worm’ Ayew to come on. For anyone. Ever. 
 

The sooner we stop having to watch him wriggle about on the floor, the better. 

[MC Prussian]

19 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

Must have watched a different game re Fatawu as he worked his socks off. Had one lapse where he let his man go but look at how deep he was. Was poor going forward but that's probably because be was forced to be so defensively minded.

He was useless going forward, epitomized by that braindead shot from distance in the second half.

[lookwhaticando]

9 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

My main concern is we tend to look more up for it against the teams higher up the league. 

We’re 22nd, that’s basically all of them. 

[martyn]

In a vacuum 1-1 at Ipswich is a decent result. But there is very little to be positive about.

 

The last ditch defending was brave at times, but we were not solid as a team unit, there was no element of controlling Ipswich out of possession, and the absolute panic and lack of composure was laughable at times.

 

We might improve from the very low bar, but we are not going to suddenly become a cohesive defensive unit. To survive, we need some defined attacking patterns of play and to actually try and create some chances. Jordan James should be first name on the teamsheet for the rest of the season, and not shoehorned out wide. 

[Twitcher]

1 hour ago, martyn said:

Decent point but the 2nd half was cowardly.

 

 

At least I don't think Rowett said defend and hold on to what we've got. We simply weren't good enough to get forward and manufacture anything.

So difficult, to the extent that James and Mukasa couldn't get into the game.

[jayfox26]

29 minutes ago, Nods said:

I mean I think they spent about half an hour in our box like, but apart from that...

And how many clear cut chances did they create?