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Posted
8 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Preseason I was one of them. 

 

Even at the time we got the points deduction I thought we'd finish like 10th or something at worst. 

 

People can be smug all they want about predicting we'd get relegated this year but I'm sorry the collapse in the second half of the season has been extremely out of the ordinary and frankly disgusting for the level of players we have. As much as we've grown to loathe them and expect nothing from them, the 11 we put out on paper every week shouldn't be 23rd in this league. 

 

I think that by the end of the season the points deduction won't matter. We'll finish more than 7 points behind 21st IMO.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

I think that by the end of the season the points deduction won't matter. We'll finish more than 7 points behind 21st IMO.

 

At this rate that looks very possible yeh. 

 

Which is just insane. 

 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Preseason I was one of them. 

 

Even at the time we got the points deduction I thought we'd finish like 10th or something at worst. 

 

People can be smug all they want about predicting we'd get relegated this year but I'm sorry the collapse in the second half of the season has been extremely out of the ordinary and frankly disgusting for the level of players we have. As much as we've grown to loathe them and expect nothing from them, the 11 we put out on paper every week shouldn't be 23rd in this league. 

 

We were on for a massively poor mid-table/bottom half finish. Problem was the points deduction put us into a relegation battle, which in turn upped the pressure on each game and the players/their contractual situation have no stomach for such a fight. 

Posted
30 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Only football I've enjoyed watching for a couple of years now is Serie A. 

 

Really competitive league again, not at it's big money height since the 90s but I think that helps. Surprising teams run up the league and the title race is usually pretty competitive. 

 

Fun to watch as a neutral and remember that the actual sport itself can be entertaining in its own right. 

 

Does the quality of the football matter?

The Polish league looks stupidly competitive this year, but I'm not sure I'd want to watch it. 
I can't even get myself to watch the Danish Superliga as moments of real quality are few and far between.

Posted
7 minutes ago, shen said:

Does the quality of the football matter?

 

I work with a guy that goes home and away to every game Boston United play, absolutely loves it. Even their pre season friendlies. So I guess with a certain amount of emotional attachment the answer is no.

 

To watch it as a neutral? Yeah, personally to me it does but I'd say Serie A is pretty damn entertaining to be honest. I think the idea that it's a dour league full of defensive 1-0s is a thing of the past. I like it.

 

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Posted (edited)
41 minutes ago, shen said:

Does the quality of the football matter?

The Polish league looks stupidly competitive this year, but I'm not sure I'd want to watch it. 
I can't even get myself to watch the Danish Superliga as moments of real quality are few and far between.

In person, i'll watch anything. I'm happy watching the King's Head B team. But on tele I find it pretty much impossible to watch crap football.

 

I don't think i've seen a single Championship game this season that didn't involve Leicester.

 

Even the Premier League I have found it tough. The higher stakes towards the end of the season means I've been bothered enough to watch more recently though.

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Posted (edited)
50 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Only football I've enjoyed watching for a couple of years now is Serie A. 

 

Really competitive league again, not at it's big money height since the 90s but I think that helps. Surprising teams run up the league and the title race is usually pretty competitive. 

 

Fun to watch as a neutral and remember that the actual sport itself can be entertaining in its own right. 

 

It's ironic that Serie A is that way now purely because it was the most corrupt league in Europe and had to be purged of match fixing and basically being run by the mafia. Back in the 90s it was the league with the moneybags reputation, before the deck of cards came tumbling down in the 2000s.

 

Guess it's a little easier when the bad actors responsible are almost entirely based in your own country though. English football is a Pandora's Box since it's sold its soul to cretins from around the world, including ones with state backing.

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Posted

You'd be very, very naive to think football in general is clean, let alone football in Italy.

 

Believing it's all magically been perfect since Calciopoli is daft.

 

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Posted
26 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I work with a guy that goes home and away to every game Boston United play, absolutely loves it. Even their pre season friendlies. So I guess with a certain amount of emotional attachment the answer is no.

 

To watch it as a neutral? Yeah, personally to me it does but I'd say Serie A is pretty damn entertaining to be honest. I think the idea that it's a dour league full of defensive 1-0s is a thing of the past. I like it.

 

Great kits throughout too 

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I did my own calculations which put them under £2 million ( just) . In their accounts they state that they “ Intend to present a compliant PSR report.

 

I found this interesting 

 

West Brom's pre tax losses for the last three seasons were £64m, infrastructure add back just under £3.5m. Academy costs are likely to be significant as West Brom have a Cat 1 academy, so estimate £6m a year, £18m over three years. That takes PSR loss to £42.6m, before women's team (which is not full time) and community scheme. Allowable loss (after cost of living adjustment) is £41.5m. A lot will depend on the actual running costs of the academy.
 
 
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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Corky said:

Has Kieran Maguire said anything about this?

 

I presume Nick De Marco is on standby.

I’m sure he said on a podcast not too long ago that they were close to the edge!

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Posted
51 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I’m sure he said on a podcast not too long ago that they were close to the edge!

 

1 hour ago, Corky said:

Has Kieran Maguire said anything about this?

 

I presume Nick De Marco is on standby.

The numbers I posted were from him

Posted
4 hours ago, shen said:

Does the quality of the football matter?

Not to me, not in the least. Two pretty evenly matched teams can produce a match that's enormous fun to watch at whatever level. I've watched U11 matches that I've enjoyed way more than some Premier League ones.

Posted
11 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

Preseason I was one of them. 

 

Even at the time we got the points deduction I thought we'd finish like 10th or something at worst. 

 

People can be smug all they want about predicting we'd get relegated this year but I'm sorry the collapse in the second half of the season has been extremely out of the ordinary and frankly disgusting for the level of players we have. As much as we've grown to loathe them and expect nothing from them, the 11 we put out on paper every week shouldn't be 23rd in this league. 

 

I do agree with you. Think as early as the 2nd game though I did think there was an outside bet of it because it was clear, already, that the manager had placated the same players who needed gutting from the team. The performances in the first half of the season were mostly rubbish.

 

Even despite everything there is no way they should be going down. That's three seasons out of four that you can rank at 1/10 without even exaggerating. The level of consistently staggering underperformance is nothing I've ever witnessed before.

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Posted
8 hours ago, Dan said:

I do agree with you. Think as early as the 2nd game though I did think there was an outside bet of it because it was clear, already, that the manager had placated the same players who needed gutting from the team. The performances in the first half of the season were mostly rubbish.

 

Even despite everything there is no way they should be going down. That's three seasons out of four that you can rank at 1/10 without even exaggerating. The level of consistently staggering underperformance is nothing I've ever witnessed before.

I think 2023 and 2026 are quite a bit worse than 2025 - even accounting for that terrible, goalless losing run under RVN. 

 

Competing in the PL is hard. It's not in the Championship. Not if you're sensible. Never mind the money/wages we've thrown around. 

 

The worse thing about 2025 was that it should have been a year of banking PL money and building for the future; instead we did a halfway house - an expensive, piss poor attempt at staying up which was never likely to work and also lumbered us with the next tranche of dross players, further hamstringing us in the Championship...

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Posted (edited)

If it's 3 points deduction for WBA, it's hardly the end of the world, they could still stay up quite conceivably, anyway in my view we are down we are not finishing above Oxford, WBA and Pompey are too far ahead to catch up and will be inconceivable when they hammer us on Saturday.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Apparently the amount they missed the limit by is around £1m. Would be insane to potentially end up relegating a club for that.

Throw the book at them!!!!!!

 

At worst its going to be one point?

Posted
Just now, Chelmofox said:

Throw the book at them!!!!!!

 

At worst its going to be one point?

I suspect there might be a nominal deduction when they're basically already safe just to say a punishment was applied.

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