Thracian Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 I'd imagine the ex-Academy players would be delighted to see the back of Holloway. But if there's going to be change can't we, just for once, have an attacking manager? Haven't we banged our heads on the floor for long enough? I'd give the job to Taggart/Stowell/Beaglehole. I've criticised all of them for going defensive when briefly in charge of the first team but they've generally tried to play the right kind of football at other levels, they KNOW the capabilities and strengths of all our players and that will be important because this won't be a time for a massive new import programme. They represent a far better bet than Dowie/Davies and offer the opportunity for this club to get the unity of style and purpose throughout which is necessary to move forward. It would also be a popular move internally. There are good senior players as well as junior players in the reserves at present and you can see they've all got the right attitude and seem to be enjoying their football, and, more important, trying to play the game properly. Indeed, the reserves have been transformed since Christmas. Dowie/Davies know nothing about our club and would likely make the same number of daft mistakes as Holloway. Failing the chance of a genuinely exciting manager, I'd promote internally, certainly until the end of the season. The downside, I suppose is that the people I've mentioned have done well and if they fail at first team level it's unlikely they'd be able to drop back into their former roles. And that would be the club's loss.
Thracian Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 you know, holloway strikes me as the kind of guy who would offer his resignation.this wouldnt surprise me. i still think, even by milans standards, we are too early for a sacking the suggestion that ollie has offered to resign, tells me that we have a bunch of total arseholes for players who couldnt give a fook who manages them so long as they get a move and good money. i dont blame the big picture on ollie even if one or two team selections id question. it goes depper as we all know I don't think we have arseholes for players at all.
Benji Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 I'd give the job to Taggart/Stowell/Beaglehole. Unfortunately, you lost me at this point
Ric Flair Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 I've not been this scared since the Bogeyman in the 80's when I was about 6. How is this happening? Do any of you superstitious folk think this club is cursed? How many managers and players do we go through before we are even slightly a respectable footballing outfit again?
surrifox Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 Now from the Mirror. I understand that MM is closely linked with one of the Mirror footy journalists and they exchange info ( he has some quality mates and contacts doesn't he ) so expect reports from this source to be kosher Whatever, my club has become a total f****** pantomime- another day another useless under-achiever at the helm - embarassing beyond words
STUHILL Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 Hahahhahahahaaa ............... Shoot me someone please, I can't take this crap no-more. Supporting Leicester City FC is the hardest thing I'll ever do in my life!!! So the Manager links start again, so depressing if we sack yet another manager. The problem with Ollie, he brings all this extra baggage of being a media junky, and all this shite about Plymouth. It hasn't helped him at all settle here. The thing is, say we did sack him, and appoint Davies. Well if Davies then failed, then I would lose all hope of ever returning to the Prem in the next 10 years or so. Davies really would be the last chance for me, to turn this weird kinda hoodoo this club has over it. I very much doubt Ollie offered his resignation though, doesn't sound at all like the man. Would be gutted if Ollie was replaced by Dowie. I just want to see someone succeed here for gods sake, i really am being stretched to my limits here. In saying all this though, If Ollie wins the next few games, everything will be fine again! Funny old game football, the margins for success and failure seem so small!!!
Manwell Pablo Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 I'd imagine the ex-Academy players would be delighted to see the back of Holloway. But if there's going to be change can't we, just for once, have an attacking manager? Haven't we banged our heads on the floor for long enough? I'd give the job to Taggart/Stowell/Beaglehole. I've criticised all of them for going defensive when briefly in charge of the first team but they've generally tried to play the right kind of football at other levels, they KNOW the capabilities and strengths of all our players and that will be important because this won't be a time for a massive new import programme. They represent a far better bet than Dowie/Davies and offer the opportunity for this club to get the unity of style and purpose throughout which is necessary to move forward. It would also be a popular move internally. There are good senior players as well as junior players in the reserves at present and you can see they've all got the right attitude and seem to be enjoying their football, and, more important, trying to play the game properly. Indeed, the reserves have been transformed since Christmas. Dowie/Davies know nothing about our club and would likely make the same number of daft mistakes as Holloway. Failing the chance of a genuinely exciting manager, I'd promote internally, certainly until the end of the season. The downside, I suppose is that the people I've mentioned have done well and if they fail at first team level it's unlikely they'd be able to drop back into their former roles. And that would be the club's loss. Gerry Taggart - ex-Leicester City. I used to celebrate the name. But that was a sodding disgrace. Indefensible. Go home to Ireland.Unlike Burrows I counted you as Leicester City. As family. But today you dragged my club through mud. I will never, ever, forgive you for that. Or that arsehole who stood by your side.
pafcfan10 Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 Hahahhahahahaaa ............... Shoot me someone please, I can't take this crap no-more. Supporting Leicester City FC is the hardest thing I'll ever do in my life!!!So the Manager links start again, so depressing if we sack yet another manager. The problem with Ollie, he brings all this extra baggage of being a media junky, and all this shite about Plymouth. It hasn't helped him at all settle here. The thing is, say we did sack him, and appoint Davies. Well if Davies then failed, then I would lose all hope of ever returning to the Prem in the next 10 years or so. Davies really would be the last chance for me, to turn this weird kinda hoodoo this club has over it. I very much doubt Ollie offered his resignation though, doesn't sound at all like the man. Would be gutted if Ollie was replaced by Dowie. I just want to see someone succeed here for gods sake, i really am being stretched to my limits here. In saying all this though, If Ollie wins the next few games, everything will be fine again! Funny old game football, the margins for success and failure seem so small!!! He offered his resignation here the moment he became 'disillusioned'.
Stevosevic Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 Can someone change the 'Davis' to 'Davies' in the name of the thread please?
Manwell Pablo Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 Any way, may take on this is we should sack Holloway. 6 Managers counting the new one (Not even counting care takers) 12 months, average of 2 months a manager. Got to be a record. In all seriousness it makes me sick. And worried, Manadaric is deranged.
MC Prussian Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 I state it again. I have no idea why we are where we are at the present moment. I don't know what the real issue is and I wonder whether we'll ever really going to find out. Stability? Now, if you bring in a new manager and give him 17 league games to prove him only to discover that the form trend as well as the results are negative, then what difference has the appointment really made? I mean, no one can expect a manager to fulfill miracles on the spot, but then again, the least Holloway could do is stop putting a veil over our eyes by sweet-talking the situation and by making it look like all too harmless. One can expect a manager to have his own strategies about tactics, positioning and formations, but when you see how Ollie switches players from Arctica to Antarctica, then it raises a valuable point. Does this man have a clue or not what he's actually paid for? As for the players, I can't put my finger on it as to what it is that makes them deliver such poor performances. I can only guess. Is it a bad team spirit? Is it the money that is spoiling it all? Are some too greedy or too envious? Do they still have faith in their manager's ability? One has to wonder whether they actually take Holloway serious with his oftentimes dubious tactical decisions. It seems like whenever we're bringing in a new man in charge of the squad, the first few games are good and then - out of a sudden - the level of compassion drops by a mile. At least under Megson, we grinded out unspectacular wins. Three points are three points. Megson knows this. Holloway doesn't. Apparently. You can't blame Mandaric for not trying to save the situation. I think he makes his moves on a rational basis. He has a valid point. However, it's not just the manager at the root of this issue, I need to add. Megson moved to Bolton... hasn't really harmed the Wanderers' performances, has it? Are our players simply not good/willing enough?
Dames Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 This really is a joke? This is drama we really couldn't be doing with at the minute. Both Ollie and MM should get thier heads out the media, stop moaning and get on with the fooking job at hand. The players need a big kick up the arse/confidence booster and shooting thier mouths off in the media moaning about every little thing will not do any good at all.
Darkzzz_ Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 I think we should bring the messiah back.... Step forward Sir Rob Kelly....
Steven Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 I think we should bring the messiah back....Step forward Sir Rob Kelly.... ... and get Jason Jarrett and Geoff Horsfield on loan.
Super Arj Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 i cant blame milan if anyone pays 25 mil for something theyd want it to work i fear that watford was the last straw
Thracian Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 I state it again. I have no idea why we are where we are at the present moment. I don't know what the real issue is and I wonder whether we'll ever really going to find out. Stability? Now, if you bring in a new manager and give him 17 league games to prove him only to discover that the form trend as well as the results are negative, then what difference has the apopointment really made? I mean, no one can expect a manager to fulfill miracles on the spot, but then again, the least Holloway could do is stop putting a veil over our eyes by sweet-talking the situation. One can expect a manager to have his own strategies about tactics, positioning and formations, but when you see how Ollie switches players from Arctica to Antarctica, then it raises a valuable point. Does this man have a clue or not what he's actually paid for?As for the players, I can't put my finger on it as to what it is that makes them deliver such poor performances. I can only guess. Is it a bad team spirit? Is it the money that is spoiling it all? Are some too greedy or too envious? Do they still have faith in their manager's ability? One has to wonder whether they actually take Holloway serious with his oftentimes dubious tactical decisions. It seems like whenever we're bringing in a new man in charge of the squad, the first few games are good and then - out of a sudden - the level of compassion drops by a mile. At least under Megson, we grinded out unspectacular wins. Three points are three points. Megson knows this. Holloway doesn't. Apparently. You can't blame Mandaric for not trying to save the situation. I think he makes his moves on a rational basis. He has a valid point. However, it's not just the manager at the root of this issue, I need to add. I never wanted Megson and hated his style but hardly said a word against him while he was here because he did know what he was doing and he did it consistently. While I might favour an attacking approach it's not the only way. Megson stood by his own beliefs and our supposedly awful players beat Villa away and had one defeat in a run of eight League games as well as winning a difficult cuptie at Forest when we'd looked like getting hammered on our first visit. In my view Holloway has lost his credibility. He's been publicly critical of the players and, to me, that's the kiss of death for a manager. He's effectively sidelined or exiled the ex-Academy players just at the time they were starting to make an impact. Worse than that he's abandoned them in favour of imports who have produced nothing, and probably won't for a while, so it's not their fault and I'm quite sure they can do okay in the end. But for Holloway it doesn't leave him with many friends.
Simi Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 Fucking hell.It's happening all over again. I remember some people making a severe fool of themselves last time these sort of rumours were circling.
Darkzzz_ Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 ... and get Jason Jarrett and Geoff Horsfield on loan. worth a go... jarret really thought he was here for life didn't he!!!
davieG Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 i cant blame milanif anyone pays 25 mil for something theyd want it to work i fear that watford was the last straw you don't still believe that old bollocks do you
The People's Hero Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 I never wanted Megson and hated his style but hardly said a word against him while he was here because he did know what he was doing and he did it consistently.
Ric Flair Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 I never wanted Megson and hated his style but hardly said a word against him while he was here because he did know what he was doing and he did it consistently.While I might favour an attacking approach it's not the only way. Megson stood by his own beliefs and our supposedly awful players beat Villa away and had one defeat in a run of eight League games as well as winning a difficult cuptie at Forest when we'd looked like getting hammered on our first visit. In my view Holloway has lost his credibility. He's been publicly critical of the players and, to me, that's the kiss of death for a manager. He's effectively sidelined or exiled the ex-Academy players just at the time they were starting to make an impact. Worse than that he's abandoned them in favour of imports who have produced nothing, and probably won't for a while, so it's not their fault and I'm quite sure they can do okay in the end. But for Holloway it doesn't leave him with many friends. That's not really the case at all though. Exactly what impact has Wesolowski, King or Chambers had under Holloway? I'm not saying any of them were crap, but they were playing in the teams that were getting hammered before the transfer window opened, it was painful. We've then had a slight up turn in results without these 3 and we looked slightly better. We're now seriously crap again, but I doubt bringing them back in will help. But it might be worth a go.
Zingari Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 i still can't see why we sacked jimmy bloomfield
Darkzzz_ Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 i still can't see why we sacked jimmy bloomfield That puts a end to it all... Quality
sackmycook Posted 14 February 2008 Posted 14 February 2008 holloway's gotta go. the man is david brent with his dumb ass quotes. and whilst its good to hear from him when hes at another club its no fun when its your club.
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