What grinds my gears...

[grobyfox1990]

23 minutes ago, Dunge said:

I remain a massive fan of the BBC; I think the country is far better for having it and its future genuinely affects my vote in elections.

However, that doesn’t mean I agree with every decision they make. Like everyone and everything, they’re not perfect and get things wrong sometimes when faced with multiple conflicting positions.

Yeh I do not know why it appears every group hates the bbc. Interested to hear from a non-facebook user as to why that hate exists. The sport coverage is top class, e.g. today at the test

[Jon the Hat]

1 minute ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Yeh I do not know why it appears every group hates the bbc. Interested to hear from a non-facebook user as to why that hate exists. The sport coverage is top class, e.g. today at the test

Well for example, why is my Mum's TV license paying for your Cricket coverage?  She doesn't listen to it!  She loves the Archers though, as I am sure do you.  

[grobyfox1990]

1 minute ago, Jon the Hat said:

Well for example, why is my Mum's TV license paying for your Cricket coverage?  She doesn't listen to it!  She loves the Archers though, as I am sure do you.  

The licence fee is largely voluntary at this stage, just don't pay it if it bothers good souls like your mum. This is free markets, the power lies with the people.

[The Bear]

I'd much rather have the BBC trying much too hard to be impartial and sometimes getting it wrong, than having a toxic media channel like Fox News. 

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, The Bear said:

I'd much rather have the BBC trying much too hard to be impartial and sometimes getting it wrong, than having a toxic media channel like Fox News. 

So would anyone with a modicum of interest beyond self-interest. 

[bovril]

There is so much false information the BBC allows to be spread on its news programmes and discussion shows on the basis of remaining 'impartial'

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, bovril said:

There is so much false information the BBC allows to be spread on its news programmes and discussion shows on the basis of remaining 'impartial'

I think that a reasonably critical difference though is that when that happens, where possible the Beeb tends to let people know that it's happened in no uncertain terms. Not sure the same can be said for other entities. 

 

This keeps cropping up today - another example of something that is far from perfect, but still much better than every other option. 

 

 

[bovril]

3 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I think that a reasonably critical difference though is that when that happens, where possible the Beeb tends to let people know that it's happened in no uncertain terms. Not sure the same can be said for other entities. 

 

This keeps cropping up today - another example of something that is far from perfect, but still much better than every other option. 

 

 

Watch literally any episode of Question Time from the 2010s

[leicsmac]

20 minutes ago, bovril said:

Watch literally any episode of Question Time from the 2010s

I don't disagree, but my point still stands. 

 

(Which says a lot about other news sources.)

[bovril]

16 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I don't disagree, but my point still stands. 

No it doesn't, the BBC is happy for 'misinformation' (I hate the term) to go unchallenged. This is a channel that promoted Nigel Farage and tried to portray Joey Barton as a thoughtful political thinker in the 2010s. 

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, bovril said:

No it doesn't, the BBC is happy for 'misinformation' (I hate the term) to go unchallenged. This is a channel that promoted Nigel Farage and tried to portray Joey Barton as a thoughtful political thinker in the 2010s. 

And yet I'm sure they're still better than practically every other source. 

 

Which, again, says rather a lot about everything else. 

[Torquay Gunner]

1 hour ago, The Bear said:

I'd much rather have the BBC trying much too hard to be impartial and sometimes getting it wrong, than having a toxic media channel like Fox News. 

Fox is an entertainment network,  masquerading as a news channel.  The Dominion lawsuit proved that Fox executives knew that Trump’s rigged election claims were bogus, but reporting the truth would have hurt their ratings.  As you say the BBC for all of its faults does try to remain impartial.  I personally prefer the more in depth reporting of Channel 4 news. 

[ajthefox]

3 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

Well for example, why is my Mum's TV license paying for your Cricket coverage?  She doesn't listen to it!  She loves the Archers though, as I am sure do you.  

What point is it you're trying to make here Jon? Other license fee payers are paying for the archers but they don't listen to it, that's how the fee works and it's what you sign up to - or don't.

[bovril]

I think Brits are pretty brainwashed about the BBC to be honest. It produces some good stuff from time to time but I haven't seen anywhere near the same level of love for or trust in the state broadcaster in other countries. 

[Jon the Hat]

17 hours ago, bovril said:

No it doesn't, the BBC is happy for 'misinformation' (I hate the term) to go unchallenged. This is a channel that promoted Nigel Farage and tried to portray Joey Barton as a thoughtful political thinker in the 2010s. 

They were obsessed with the idea that the opposing view must be presented as that was balance.  It was the 2010s version of the 90's asking the ****wit in the street what they think.  It wasn't balance, it was giving a platform to *****.

[Jon the Hat]

15 hours ago, bovril said:

I think Brits are pretty brainwashed about the BBC to be honest. It produces some good stuff from time to time but I haven't seen anywhere near the same level of love for or trust in the state broadcaster in other countries. 

The ABC is pretty popular in Aus, and the main alternative new is Sky News Australia, and as they don't have the UK law around balance, it is much like Fox news in the US, a mouthpiece for whatever nonsense Murdoch supports this week.  Its awful.  

[StanSP]

On 16/07/2025 at 20:56, Dunge said:

I’m yet to be convinced Torode has done anything wrong. At least nothing significant that wasn’t a one-off and apologised for immediately. Feels like they just wanted a reboot for Masterchef and flushed his career down the loo as collateral.

I find it odd how Torode can remember he apologised for it immediately after but then also says he doesn't recall it happening. 

 

Surely both can't be right? 

[Jon the Hat]

45 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I find it odd how Torode can remember he apologised for it immediately after but then also says he doesn't recall it happening. 

 

Surely both can't be right? 

The person who reported it said the bit about the immediate apology, not Torode.

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

The ABC is pretty popular in Aus, and the main alternative new is Sky News Australia, and as they don't have the UK law around balance, it is much like Fox news in the US, a mouthpiece for whatever nonsense Murdoch supports this week.  Its awful.  

Yeah, people may (justifiably) slag off the Beeb but it's another example of not really knowing how much worse things could be. 

[Sampson]

4 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

The person who reported it said the bit about the immediate apology, not Torode.

Tbh I really doubt I would remember something I said in a work meeting 7 weeks ago let alone 7 years ago either. Not saying he did or didn’t do it or if it’s right or wrong, but also don’t know how that kind of thing can be used as evidence years later for someone to lose their job if there’s no written proof? It definitely feels like BBC just want to publicly be shown to be resetting Masterchef after the Wallace stuff and he’s fallen as collateral damage but obviously I’m not privy to all the information

Edited 18 July 2025 by Sampson

[kenny]

1 hour ago, Sampson said:

Tbh I really doubt I would remember something I said in a work meeting 7 weeks ago let alone 7 years ago either. Not saying he did or didn’t do it or if it’s right or wrong, but also don’t know how that kind of thing can be used as evidence years later for someone to lose their job if there’s no written proof? It definitely feels like BBC just want to publicly be shown to be resetting Masterchef after the Wallace stuff and he’s fallen as collateral damage but obviously I’m not privy to all the information

Its weird really. He is out of contract, the BBC could just not renew it and announce the show needs a refresh and will continue with a new line-up.

 

For some reason the BBC seems to get it wrong every single time.

[Kisnorbo fox]

On 17/07/2025 at 10:22, grobyfox1990 said:

Yeh I do not know why it appears every group hates the bbc. Interested to hear from a non-facebook user as to why that hate exists. The sport coverage is top class, e.g. today at the test

No nothing wrong with a broadcaster who like to cover up for nonce cases and individuals who blatantly abused the positions they where in to carry out their child abuse.

[Dr The Singh]

On 17/07/2025 at 10:28, grobyfox1990 said:

The licence fee is largely voluntary at this stage, just don't pay it if it bothers good souls like your mum. This is free markets, the power lies with the people.

Don't use Facebook or on social media.  I hate the bbc for its over powering agenda of pushing wokeness and PC agenda down our throats

[Tommy G]

54 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Don't use Facebook or on social media.  I hate the bbc for its over powering agenda of pushing wokeness and PC agenda down our throats

Don’t get me started on the bbc football or sports section in general.

[CrazyKopCorner]

This ****ing drum !