Swansea Player Ratings

[Daggers]

I wonder if the ratings will tempt Thrac back into posting.

Hmm.

Pretty sure he already is

[Koke]

When I've finished with motorbikes I'm going to take up being gay - and then I am going to marry you.

No civil ceremony/partnership - a proper marriage and I will love you til death do us apart.

[Salieri]

I wonder if the ratings will tempt Thrac back into posting.

Hmm.

If everybody keeps marking "Kingy" (deservedly) down in the ratings, he's BOUND to resurface soon....

[Cropwellfox]

Weale 7 - best distribution from a keeper who has belonged to us in a long time

Morrison 6 - steady, a couple of misdirected punts, but looks capable of challenging Neilson at RB

Brown 8 - had the Swansea forward line in his pocket throughout open play

Hobbs 7 - Steady performance, looked accomplished

Berner 8 - Has the chance to make LB his own this year, solid defending and couple of fantastic bursts forward, they didn't look a threat down their right hand side at all. He looks like he has really benefitted from a full pre-season. Hopefully he can keep clear of injury

Oakley 7 - Far more effective in the second half. Didn't allow the heads to drop after the pen was missed

King 5 - Off day today. Looked strangely lethargic. Wonder if he could have done with a couple more weeks rest rather than being in the Wales squad over the early summer

Wellens 9 - My MOTM, stood out in the first half and played some delightful stuff in the second half. We've lacked somebody with his footballing ability who is also not afraid to put his foot in for years.

Dyer 6 - Better in second half than first. Seemed to have been instructed to drift inside during the first half, which often pulled the whole midfield out of shape. Could have been more damaging to us had Berner not done so well at left back

Fryatt 5 - Not at the races today

Howard 7 - Was clearly frustrated but made himself a nusiance today and got a good assist.

Subs:

N'Guessan 8 - Direct, incisive and effective. Their left back couldn't live with him

Waghorn 8 - see above. Threw himself into everything, made their defences lives very uncomfortable throughout the second half and was unlucky not to get a second goal towards the end

Adams - only had 10 mins or so, but looked sharp, and played like he was enjoying himself while he was on

Pearson - Fair play to him for making early changes, but more so after the game for admiting he was wrong in picking Fryatt, and then immediately giving Fryatt his backing. Pearson seems to know what to say to get the best out of his players, and i'm sure Fryatt will have much better games than this - especially as he knows his place isn't completely nailed on now.

Swansea - knocked it about very nicely first half. When their guy went off they seemed to start to lose their shape and some of their diving, ball moving and injury feigning antics in the second half were shocking.

[bigneville]

Weale - 6.5 - Didn't have much to do, kicking was very good, picked out Howard with most.

Morrison - 6 - Really isn't good enough on the ball to play at right back. Did well defensively, but constantly gave the ball away.

Hobbs - 7 - Looked comfortable.

Brown - 7.5 - Lead the back line well, his experience is going to be a great asset.

Berner - 7 - Got forward well, struggled against Dyer's pace slightly, but positionally he was generally spot on. Very efficient with the ball.

Oakley - 7 - Very quiet by his standards first half, but second half, played the understudy to Wellens very well, played the simple stuff so Wellens could try to create. Another good display for the captain

King - 5 - Was he even playing? Looked either completely out of his depth, which I doubt, or had his mind on something else.

Wellens - 8 - Brilliant feet and vision and got stuck in well also. Looks a very good signing.

Dyer - 6.5 - Tried hard, but seemed to want to tuck inside all the time. Much more of a threat when he used the width.

Howard - 7 - Lead the line well. Poor penalty, but a decent display from Howard.

Fryatt - 5 - Simply unfit.

Subs

Waghorn - 8 - Work rate was awesome, kept the Swansea back line on their toes for the whole second half. Got lucky with his goal, but he didn't half deserve it. Can see why he is rated highly by Sunderland. Held the ball up very well.

N'Guessan - 7.5 - Looked a threat from the right hand side, decent delivery but how did he miss that header late on in the second half

Adams - 7 - Looked keen to prove a point to the management, good feet, and looked creative, could have a part to play this season.

Manager - 9 - It takes a big man to admit mistakes, and by the two changes at half time, he certainly did that. And what great changes they where.

Proved he certainly had a plan B.

Swansea - 6 - I really thought they would be a lot better than that. Kept the ball well in defence and midfield, but had no idea in the final third. Unless they find a creative spark and some goals. Can certainly see Swansea struggling this year.

[Bryn]

Weale 6 - Nowt to do, no chance with the goal, kicking looks better than anything I've seen since we were in the Prem

Morrison 6.5 - Solid, you can tell he's not really a right back but he tries hard and he was mildly effective.

Berner 7 - Good game I thought, willing going forward even if it doesn't have all the attributes to a marauding rightback. Won the penalty I believe?

Hobbs 7 - Solid

Brown 7 - Solid, I forsee many bookings though. Our centrebacks didn't often look troubled, it's such a shame they conceded such a cheap goal.

Oakley 6.5 - First half he tried but he shouldn't have been on the wing, we didn't need 3 central midfielders against their uninspiring midfield. Contributed to the second half vigour once moved inside, always wanted the ball and generally used it well.

Dyer 6 - Off his game, didn't think he was particularly effective coming inside to do Fryatt's legwork, he can't pass or hold it up. Looked better going directly down the flank to my mind.

Wellens 8 - Midfield general, single handedly held it for us in the first half and his range of passing is lovely. Class.

King 5 - Who? Completely anonymous - not bad as such, I just couldn't see what his role was. Rightly taken off, we didn't need three central midfielders today at home, we needed movement down the flanks.

Howard 6 - We all know Big Steve is static, his game relies on movement around him which he wasn't getting in the first half - he was looking murderous. In the second half the movement was there but dare I say the game passed him by? We played a more refined style of football than last season in the second half, I think another player with movement would have been more effective. But he did his job.

Fryatt 5 - Not fit, needs minutes, let's hope his confidence isn't bashed.

Subs

Waghorn 7 - Yes. A good footballer by that showing, good on the ball, fast, strong, skilful. Deserved the goal.

N'Guessan 7 - What I expected, direct, quick, strong, confident. Final ball wasn't amazing but it was effective. Big reason we were so effective second half, promising performance.

In the first half the only attacking player with any dynamism was Dyer and he wasn't on it for me. We changed that second half and it paid off.

Oh and Adams, 7, looked effective, deserves a crack at the first team. The one-two with the corner flag

[ousefox]

Weale - 6 Not much to do

Morrison - 6 Did what he had to do - lacked a bit of pace

Hobbs - 7 Solid heading but some of the distribution was poor

Brown - 8 Solid throughout- didn't let himself get done for pace

Berner - 7 Got the peno- solid

Oakley - 7 Some good balls and tackles.Better in the middle

King - 5 Didn't see him touch the ball.

Wellens - 7.5 Great distribution and good tackler.

Dyer - 7 id well with his runs but could have gone wide more often.

Howard - 7. Bad peno miss. Good at heading it on and helping Waghorn

Fryatt - 5 Crap, clearly not fit.

Waghorn - 9 Good prospect and used his muscle well- another great loan signing.

N'Guessan - 8Good crosses and goal. Should have scored when hit crossbar.

Adams - 8 Great skills with the corner flag.

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

Weale 6 - Not much to do.

Morrison 6.5 - Nothing wrong did OK

Brown 8 - Got stuck in and gave 100%

Hobbs 7 - Distribution poor, won every header

Berner 7.5 - Kept that Dyer quiet and won the peno, who the hell is Mattock?

Oakley 6 - Got stuck in but very average.

Wellens 7 - Similar to Oakley but played well with him in the centre and improved his 2nd half.

King 5 - Good tackles but no doubt his overall performance wasnt great.

Dyer 8 - A constant threat to the Swans they couldn't deal with him and he linked well with Berner.

Howard 7 - Effort was there won all the headers, disappointed with the penalty.

Fryatt 4- Clearly not fit.

Waghorn 7.5 - Young Rooney. Put himself about.

Adams 7 - Mint with the corner flag. Right in front of me.

N'Guessan 7.5 - Killed the left hand side of their defence and was always a threat. Should have scored too.

Nigel Pearson 9. Selection at the start wrong but use of subs was mint.

[orangecity23]

Weale - 7 - Alert, good kicking. Couldn't do much about the goal, didn't have any saves to make apart from that.

Morrison - 6 - Obviously not a full back, but put in a good shift. Solid in defence, got forward enough. Less aimless floated balls would be nice though.

Hobbs - 7 - Solid, won plenty in the air, decent distribution.

Brown - 8 - Is it possible to damage this man? He's must be made of diamonds. Still amused by a swansea player trying to elbow him in a header, conceding the foul, injuring themselves and being subbed. Was worried he was gonna get sent off after that tackle though. A rock.

Berner - 8 - Defended well, but I wonder if he has some kind of Swiss-Brazilian heritage. He LOVES to get forward. Provided the only width down the left in the first half, great run for the penalty. Crossings good as well. Quality volley that hit the bar in the first half

Dyer - 7 - Kept drifting inside in the first half, where he was having little effect. Much better second half, especially when we were counter attacking. We look so much better when Lloyd stays wide, and we have a pacy winger on the right. Creates a lot more space, stretched the swansea defence.

King - 5 - Didn't do much. Kept possesion well enough when he got the ball, but the game largely passed him by.

Wellens - 9 - Just the player we needed in midfield. Wins the balls so often, passes well and with imagination.

Oakley - 7.5 - Okay first half, Good second half. Still taking dodgy corners, but managed to get a good one in for the N'Guesson goal.

Fryatt - 5.5 - Worked hard, but clearly not match fit yet.

Howard - 7 - Won everything in the air, links play well. Crap pen, but was always gonna happen after the massive delay to take it.

Subs:

N'Guesson - 8.5 - Pace, power and height. A full backs nightmare, Swansea panicked everytime he ran at them. Nearly scored a second with a salmon like leap for that header.

Waghorn - 9 - Great energy, got the vital equaliser, and was everywhere. Looking forward to seeing more of him.

Adams - 8 - Great cameo, some lovely runs and that corner flag 1-2 was quality.

[Ultra]

Weale - 7

Morrison - 6

Hobbs - 7

Brown - 7

Berner - 7

Oakley - 6

Wellens - 8

King - 4

Dyer - 6

Howard - 6

Fryatt - 5

N'Guessan - 8

Waghorn - 9* (best debut by a striker in years)

Adams - 7

[Unabomber]

Weale 7 - He did fine, had no chance with the goal and I think he has a good relationship with Brown (mainly in the footballing sense)

Morrison 6 - He was suprisingly solid against both Dyer and Gower, offers nothing going forward but it is important to remember he is a CB by trade.

Hobbs 7 - His distribution was poor by his standards, but he was solid anyway and did a good job, we rarely looked in any danger.

Brown 7 - He is an absolute weapon, he can't really pass, but he is mean, gets stuck in and doesn't fcuk about

Berner 8 - I thought he was great today, he won a pen and got an assist while being solid defensively, something Mattock couldn't do.

Oakley 6 - He is not a right winger, he was solid when he moved into the middle and did a good job, was always trying to rally the troops.

Wellens 7 - He got caught a few times taking too much time, however his passing is superb as is his vision, I am impressed.

King 5 - He made a few decent short passes, but was often out of his depth, he didn't provide much and needed the subbing.

Dyer 6 - He was decent enough on the ball, and passed it fine, however he offered nothing going forward and he couldn't really pose a threat.

Howard 7 - Predictable pen, but won a lot and fought for the team and made some nice lay offs for the supporting attacking options,

Fryatt 5 - Fairly hard to judge, but he seemingly lacked a lot of match sharpness.

Waghorn 9 - Energetic, direct, fast, skillfull and scored, fantastic debut.

N'Guessan 8 - Good performance, he had shots, put good balls in the box, and scored.

Adams 7 - Fair play, thought to be going out on loan, but he has earned his place in the squad and is there on merit, put in some brillaint crosses and looked lively.

Pearson 9 - We started poorly but his changes at half time were absolutely top class and he deserves alot of praise.

[Mikey]

Weale - 7

Morrison - 6

Brown - 7.5

Hobbs - 7

Berner - 7.5

Oakley - 7

King - 6

Wellens - 8

Dyer - 7

Howard - 7

Fryatt - 6

Subs:

Waghorn - 8

N'Guessan - 7.5

Adams - 7

[ob1kanobe0]

Weale - 6.5

Morrison - 6.43984762543

Brown - 6.8

Hobbs - 6 slightly disapointed with hobby.

Berner - 7 who's mattock?

Oakley - 6.5

King - 6 not sure because i didn't notice him much was a good thing.

Wellens - 7

Dyer - 6.7

Howard - 666.666

Fryatt - 6.999 999 because we call him in an emergency

Subs:

Waghorn - 8

Bring me Sunshine, in your smile,

Bring me Laughter, all the while,

In this world where we live, there should be more happiness,

So much joy you can give, to each brand new bright tomorrow.

Make me happy, through the years,

Never bring me, any tears,

Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above,

Bring me fun, bring me sunshine, bring me love.

N'Guessan - 7.2

Adams - 6.6

[Collymore]

I agree with the ratings on here tonight, but I thought Brown was 'out of this world' today, Not only did he defend like a WWI general, but he played some scholes esque passes through to the strikers! Wayne Brown on his day is priceless..

I slated N'guessen after the real vollioidiidiid game, I apoligise to him, he was immense today too that fooking fryatt though :angry:

Waghorn looked handy

[Alf Bentley]

Weale 6: Largely unemployed, bit concerned defenders lacked trust...

Morrison 6.5: Willing and improving, out of position but OK

Hobbs 7: Solid

Brown 7.5: Solid with presence and influence

Berner 7.5: Joe Who?!

Oakley 6.5: Atrocious 1st half, much better 2nd

Wellens 8: Likely player of the season - classy passing & physical dominance don't often come as one

King 5: Seemed a bit lightweight sometimes last year; hope he learns; still a prospect

Dyer 6.5: OK, but would've liked to see him wide more; suspect ordered to join solid midfield

Howard 6: Not his best, but still played for the team

Fryatt 5: Off the pace, hopefully just due to fitness...

Waghorn 7.5: Strong, mobile, confident...impressed

N'Guessan 7: Looked the part, made a difference

Adams: 7: Storming cameo; attitude alone shows he deserves his chance

[martyn]

Doing these without looking at the rest of the thread

Weale 6: Had nothing to do until the 86th minute

Morrison 8: Solid all game, was excellent against Swansea's best player

Hobbs 6: Looked shaky all game, poor distributution

Brown 7: Some important interventions and rock solid defending. One mistake recitified by scything the opponent down in glorious fashion

Berner 8.5 MOM: Fantastic all game. Defensive rock and useful going forward. Never put a foot wrong, who needs Mattock.

Oakley 7: Poor first half, much better second with the change of approach.

King 5: Absolute pasenger, looked w yards off

Wellens 8: Terrible first 10 minutes but subsequently ran the game. Can pick the pass that no other player sees. The little reverse ball gto Dyer for one of our goals was so simple, yet so effecitive Also needles the opposition which is a bonus.

Dyer 6: Abysmal first half. Looked much better when space created 2nd half for him to run

Howard 7: Missed a glorious chance and a penalty but was a pain for Swansea all afternoon. Lovely set up for N'Guessan's strike

Fryatt 5: Off the pace completely

Waghorn 8: Provided everything that was needed from a frontman. Good pace combined with a lovely touch and ability to work the channels. CFaused Swansea loads of problems and was pivotal in changing the game

N'Guessan 7.5: Direct from the off. Drifted out of the game after a hugely effective first 15 minuted but looked as threat.

[colbo68]

Weale 6 - I can't comment on the goal as I didn't see it, but from what I did see he was pretty solid. There wasn't a lot to do for him, but what he managed was done with little fuss.

Morrison 7 - Aside from the occassional unnecessary hoofs, he was solid at right back.

Hobbs 7 - Again, like Morrison, stuck to his task well enough and didn't look like getting beaten all afternoon.

Brown 8 - What a guy. An absolute rock at the centre of defence, he was not going to allow anything past him today. And that foul? Heroic.

Berner 8 - I was wrong. I had a feeling that he might get torn apart by Dyer/Gower today, but he was excellent both going forward and at the back. A great run to win the penalty, and was always there to tidy up at the back. Impressive.

Oakley 6 - A very poor first half out wide forced Pearson into the decision to bring on the two substitutes. Second half he was much better alongside Wellens, doing what he does best by making things simple.

Wellens 7.5 - A very good home debut. Looked strong, assured on the ball and always searching for a dangerous ball. He'll be a very good player for us this year.

King 5 - Barely noticeable from what I can remember of the first half to be honest. He was always going to have to make way if Pearson decided to change things around, and I have a feeling he might find himself on the bench more than he'd like this season.

Dyer 6.5 - Not bad at all from Lloyd, hooked up with Berner well for the whole match. I'd like if more if he was a bit more aggressive on the full-backs, as he still doesn't seem to have the confidence to try and beat his man. Crossing was poor.

Howard 6 - A terrible penalty, which made you think it might just be one of those days. Aside from that he won most of what went his way, and I think he could form a decent partnership with Waghorn if that was the case this year.

Fryatt 5 - Unfit. Rarely looked a goal threat, just too soon for him. He'll get there eventually.

Subs:

Waghorn 8 - I can't begin to explain how refreshing it is to see a striker with pace. Always willing to chase lost causes down, there's nothing to suggest his heart's not in this. Got his goal, and could have had another. A very promising debut.

N'Guessan 8 - Like Waghorn, a massive impact on the game. He was getting dangerous crosses in regularly, all of which found a blue shirt. He's certainly got an eye for goal as well, as shown by the one he did manage. Let's hope for more of the same.

Adams 7 - A player I've never rated, but in his short time on the pitch looked hugely impressive. I really hope we see a different Nicky Adams this year, as he could give us another option on the wing. Prove me wrong Nicky.

Wellens - just the sort of player city needed - tough, a menace and a good distributor of the ball - looks a great signing

Morrison - solid enough but his distribution was woeful, especially first half

Waghorn - at last!!! we have a striker with strength AND pace - if he continues to chase everything down like he did

yesterday (and he stays at the club), then its bye-bye Dickov and even Fryatt could be worried

Howard - well done big man - apart from the shit penalty you were everywhere yesterday

Adams - seen him in pre-season and he's playing with a swagger that denotes an injection of self-confidence that I didn't think he could attain - could be the dark horse this season

Fryatt - I'm afraid, as I thought last season, that Fryatt's inadequacies at this level are not all based on the fact he was unfit yesterday. I reckon a fully fit Matty is gonna struggle this year

[Fox92]

Weale 6: Had nothing to do apart from their goal and the last few minutes. When called upon did well, although he could of collected the ball a few times to be honest but it was is debut and I expect him to go strength to strength.

Morrison 7: Looked fairly tired but still was superb. Obviousley, not a full back and you could see that but sat in well at times and covered a few times for Brown/Hobbs when they had to go and sort out Dyer out wide.

Hobbs 7: Played well. Perhaps a few poor balls in the first half but generally had no where to go so he had to distribute it somewhere.

Brown 7: One mistake all game, his poor first touch and tackle, but generally rock solid all game. Someone we have needed for ages.

Berner 8: Fantastic. Thought he was not going to get forward and defend etc but did very well. Defensive rock all game and useful going forward, ecspecially the nice little dive for the penelty.

Oakley 7: Poor first half but he isn't a winger. Second half moved into his natural position and showed he can still cut it at this level. Got stuck in and some good passes.

King 5: Spectator for the 45 minutes, too lightwieght and looked nackerd at times. Needs to improve his physical side as expected.

Wellens 8: Very creative player, can pick and play a pass like Steven Gerrard at times. Got stuck in all game, played superb balls, great first touch and even pointed out to Gomez how much he'd missed by!

Dyer 6: Went inside to much, never really showed his pace.

Howard 7: Missed the penelty but set up the goal for Danny. Took knocks all game and deserved a goal really.

Fryatt 6: No pace as we all know, didn't look on the same wave length as Stevie, but he didn't look that fit so?

Subs:

Waghorn 8: Good pace, a lovely touch and worked the channels at last. Caused Swansea loads of problems and changed the game. Thats why he plays for Sunderland!

N'Guessan 7.5: Looked a threat at times. Some low crosses, which were good, nice wide man who showed pace.

Adams 7: Another player who did well. Lovely bit of skill at times and played a lovely 1-2 with the corner flag. Provided crosses which were better than Dyer's. Improved since last season.

[ACF]

Wheres SheffieldFox?

[Candidcamera]

All opinions welcome on this forum, I think but perhaps not. I miss the absentees too. The reports on here are priceless to those who can't attend.

[Webbo]

Weale - 6

Morrison - 8

Brown - 7

Hobbs - 7

Berner - 8

Oakley - 6.5

King - 6

Wellens - 7

Dyer - 6.5

Howard - 6.5 minus half a point for the penalty miss

Fryatt - 5 obviously not fit.

Subs:

Waghorn - 8

N'Guessan - 8.5 MOTM for me. Changed the game more than anybody in the 2nd half.

Adams - 7.5 Far better than Dyer yesterday. Must start against Macclesfield.

[dandannieldanok]

Weale 5 (No chance with the goal but for me he never looked comfortable when crosses came in)

Morrison 6.5 (Admirable job, didn't get beat by the winger at all often and supported attacks well)

Hobbs 6 (Not great, reasonably solid but his passing was wayward at best)

Brown 7 (Lost his man for the goal but recovered to play really well, look better than Hobbs imo)

Berner 7 (Solid in the main, supported attacks better than expected)

Oakley 7 (Vastly improved in the middle, started to drive the team on as we took charge)

King 4 (The game bypassed him)

Wellens 7.5 (Another vast improver, looked so comfortable on the ball when we took charge)

Dyer 6 (Exposed the gaps well in the second half, lacked any quality final ball)

Howard 6.5 (Won most of his headers, woeful penalty though)

Fryatt 4 (Like King, the game bypassed him)

Waghorn 9 (Hassled and harried, never once wasted a pass, ran at players, lovely touch, real quality debut)

N'Guessan 8 (Kept them under pressure with cross after cross, another quality debut)

Adams 8 (Looked really comfortable when he came on, good wingers performance and his fiery squaring up only endeared him more to me)

Pearson misjudged what was needed from the start but at least he had the guts to shake things up, all of the subs worked perfectly.

[stevie909]

Weale - 6 - Had nothing to do of any note, couldn't do much about the goal and kicking was solid all game

Morrison - 5 - Literally like watching stearman from two years ago in the first half. hoooofff......hoooofff, however did improve in the second half and finished the game on a high.

Hobbs - 6 - Tried to direct play too much in the first half, whilst ignoring key defensive responsibilities. But similar to morrison once he adjusted to the pace of the game his overall play improved.

Brown - 7 - Solid all game. This guy is a beast in the air.

Berner - 8 - Some good intricate play with dyer in the first half, he was excellent positionally and won us the penalty.

Oakley - 8 - Uninspiring in the first half, he came out in the second with a new attitude and the freedom to initiate play in the centre.

Wellens - 8 - The only good thing about the first half. Revelled in the beckham 'quarter-back' role and was hard in the tackle.

King - 5 - Completely anonymous. Seems like he hadn't fully adjusted to having wellens as a partner

Dyer - 6 - Worked his socks off without doing anything of any particular note.

Fryatt - 5 - Worked hard but was clearly not match - fit.

Howard - 6 - Won his headers yet was fairly uninspiring throughout. Not his fault that the team just seemed to constantly hoof the ball in his general direction in the first half.

SUBS:

Waghorn - 8 - Changed the game. Lucky finish but he deserved it

N'Guessan - 7 - Did excellently to get himself on the scoresheet and really should have had a second. Swansea's left back shat himself every time he got the ball.

Adams - 8 - With what little time he had he seemed to light up the game. Re- invigorated, and produced one of the best crosses ive seen at the walkers for n'guessan's headed chance.

Pearson - 10

[stevie909]

apologies for double post

[Ricey]

Weale 6

Morrison 6 - Decent but gave the ball away too much

Hobbs 6 - Ditto

Brown 7 - Brick sh*thouse

Berner 6 - Not a long term replacement, he's too slow but go forward well today

Oakley 7 - Usual effcient Oakley display

King 5 - Looked out of place

Wellens 9 - Fantastic, won the ball and used it well. Can see him becoming a fans favourite

Dyer 6 - He insisted on making runs into the middle rather than stay out wide, which gave us no width

Howard 6.5 - Strong but his finishing was dreadful

Fryatt 5 - Lacked fitness

Waghorn 9 - Strong, quick, confident, mobile.....sign him up!

N'Guessan 8 - Very positive and attack minded, changed the game

Adams 7.5 - Great player to have on the bench