Kitchandro Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 I don't know if you are a Wellens fan, I am not, but Wellens only performed against the poorer teams, particularly if we already had a two goal lead, then he would really shine. If you do think Wellens has the sun shining from his bum, I must accuse you of inconsistency. However if you recognise that Wellens is poor against strong and powerful oppositions, you may have a valid observation on Yukubu. Like Man City
stix Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 "Fourth_Official: Leicester could confirm a TRIPLE deal in the next few days, two of which are strikers #LCFC"
Kitchandro Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 If we signed mesi we would still argue So you're saying Yakubu is a complete footballer then?
80footgiraffe Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 @80footgiraffe: Feel free to contribute to the forum then, instead of your usual nonsensical posts. Not only are you wrong , but anyone with a degree of intellect would know that I was stating the answer of the 'so called riddle' just so it wouldn't be brought up again because as we all know on this forum, you can have a 20 page thread over a stupid tweet. /rant. Relax. This is the internet. Don't become a troll.
Petchy Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Wow you just failed that test there didn't you Kitchandro!
21st Century Fox Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 The saying goes "Feed The Yak" not "Let the Yak go and look for his own food". Set him up and he'll score, he's not a workhorse. Fine so long as he scores the goals, which he did .
Petchy Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Relax. This is the internet. Don't become a troll. Ergh. Go take your 'internet speakz' somewhere else.
stix Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 "@LM_Marlow: Big - and slightly disappointing - LCFC transfer news tomorrow on TWO new strikers. #lcfc" Not sure who this guy is but something to do with the Mercury i gather
Corky Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 So you're saying Yakubu is a complete footballer then? Probably more than likely saying that he's a better quality than most we could attract.
Babylon Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 That stat has limited value. Look at Fryatt's record in his first season with us or during our year in League 1 and you'll see what I mean. His career is still moving in an upwards direction though. That doesn't take much - look at Bednar and Kirkland last season. A scoring record still worse that Fryatt or Waghorn in similar games the previous season. Most of his goals were against inadequate or unmotivated opponents. In games where we needed him, even against the likes of Palace, he went missing far too often. That stat has limited value? (even though he's proven throughout his career). But your stat of not scoring against the top 6 in 5 games is fine and has lots of value????!!?!!!?!!?!??? Oh and I must have missed the bit where Sven signed them permanently. No manager has a perfect track record with signings, but they were here for a month and gone.
Kitchandro Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Probably more than likely saying that he's a better quality than most we could attract. You see I disagree, I'd prefer to gamble on Maynard or even Kamara. But this is why I always debate about Yakubu, he's hyped up to be some kind of superstar and any valid criticism he recieves is met with ridicule such as 'if we signed Messi some people would still complain' because he 'scored 11 in 20 games'.
artursteppe Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Like Man City Watford was the game that told us the most about Wellens. We were fantastic without him!!!
Kitchandro Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Watford was the game that told us the most about Wellens. We were fantastic without him!!! So we had one good half against Watford and now Wellens is crap? This wipes the memory of an excellent performance against a team that finished 4th in the Premiership, along with a season in which he was named the best player? I mean I know he shagged your wife and all but this isn't even a thread about him and you still manage to bang on about it. Give it a rest.
Corky Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 You see I disagree, I'd prefer to gamble on Maynard or even Kamara. But this is why I always debate about Yakubu, he's hyped up to be some kind of superstar and any valid criticism he recieves is met with ridicule such as 'if we signed Messi some people would still complain' because he 'scored 11 in 20 games'. Who is to say we won't gamble on either of those players? We do need more than one striker. The thing with Yakubu is that he replaced Fryatt, who was generally popular, and has also prevented Waghorn, a firm favourite, from having a run in the team. That affects people's judgements and perceptions, so when he doesn't play well fans will want the favourite in the side. He's not some kind of superstar, but it's been said for how many years that we need a 20-goal a season striker and Yakubu has the capabilities of providing that.
hackneyfox Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 So we had one good half against Watford and now Wellens is crap? This wipes the memory of an excellent performance against a team that finished 4th in the Premiership, along with a season in which he was named the best player? I mean I know he shagged your wife and all but this isn't even a thread about him and you still manage to bang on about it. Give it a rest. There are plenty that don't rate Wellens, when he has a good game we generally do, does that make him a good player or does it make him lazy as many claim Yakubu to be when he doesn't score.
hackneyfox Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 You see I disagree, I'd prefer to gamble on Maynard or even Kamara. But this is why I always debate about Yakubu, he's hyped up to be some kind of superstar and any valid criticism he recieves is met with ridicule such as 'if we signed Messi some people would still complain' because he 'scored 11 in 20 games'. I'd have Yakubu over Kamara any day, I like Kamara but he didn't knock them away or create that many, not when compared to Yakubu.
21st Century Fox Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Who is to say we won't gamble on either of those players? We do need more than one striker. The thing with Yakubu is that he replaced Fryatt, who was generally popular, and has also prevented Waghorn, a firm favourite, from having a run in the team. That affects people's judgements and perceptions, so when he doesn't play well fans will want the favourite in the side. He's not some kind of superstar, but it's been said for how many years that we need a 20-goal a season striker and Yakubu has the capabilities of providing that. Now go back and rewrite that with a few mentions of 'pashun' and baseless 'facts', it was far too sensible and reasonable for this discussion. Saying that I agree +1
Kitchandro Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Who is to say we won't gamble on either of those players? We do need more than one striker. The thing with Yakubu is that he replaced Fryatt, who was generally popular, and has also prevented Waghorn, a firm favourite, from having a run in the team. That affects people's judgements and perceptions, so when he doesn't play well fans will want the favourite in the side. He's not some kind of superstar, but it's been said for how many years that we need a 20-goal a season striker and Yakubu has the capabilities of providing that. Well we'll see what Sven does, I'm not jumping to conclusions. If you don't think he's a superstar then fair enough, but some people really do arse lick him. (well not really). It seems that some people think he was dragging our otherwise average team to the brink of the play offs til the back 5 screwed it up. It was a combined effort and a combined 'failure', Yakubu certainly can not escape some criticism for some of his performances. Like I said, he's a very talented player and is brilliant when he wants to be. I just hope he wants to be for a long period of time next season. There are plenty that don't rate Wellens, when he has a good game we generally do, does that make him a good player or does it make him lazy as many claim Yakubu to be when he doesn't score. So are you saying Wellens is lazy? And on what basis? Bcause he's had a few bad performances or because he looks like he's being lazy? Seriously though this guy has a problem, if he wants to slate a player that's one thing but to hijack every thread to make the same point? Weird. All the FoxesTalk cliches are coming out now. We just need Babylon to come out and moan about the majority of posters for not liking Ricardo and making assumptions about things.
lcfc_jme Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 If Yakubu had Hume's energy and work ethic we'd be on a winner. He'd also be playing in the top 5 of the Premier League, playing in Europe and would be a ridiculously highly-valued striker. Meaning we wouldn't be on to anything.
Kitchandro Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 He'd also be playing in the top 5 of the Premier League, playing in Europe and would be a ridiculously highly-valued striker. Meaning we wouldn't be on to anything. Really? You think he's that good? So you think a player shouldn't be criticised if he has talent? It's OK to waltz around half the time not pulling your weight because you've got talent? In any case that doesn't mean there isn't anyone in the Championship with a more all round game.
Jimothy Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Really? You think he's that good? So you think a player shouldn't be criticised if he has talent? It's OK to waltz around half the time not pulling your weight because you've got talent? In any case that doesn't mean there isn't anyone in the Championship with a more all round game. Reread the post you're replying to and then read the post's he's replying to and you'll realise how stupid what you said sounds.
lcfc_jme Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 So you think a player shouldn't be criticised if he has talent? It's OK to waltz around half the time not pulling your weight because you've got talent? Yes, Kitchen, that's exactly what I said. Yakubu's current strong-points: he always seems to be in the right place at the right time (hence him being accused of only scoring tap-ins), can produce moments of sheer brilliance (setting up King at Sheff U and his goal against Derby), is an absolute powerhouse of a man and literally scares the life out of defenders when he runs at them - even in the PL. If you add insane work-rate and willingness to charge around after everything / ability to force unexpected errors through sheer determination, along with his current habit of always popping up in the 6 yard box, then he'd be an exceptionally well-rounded striker capable of playing at the upper-levels of the PL. Iain Hume had work-rate but a much worse goals-to-games ratio than "lazy" Yakubu (and don't bother giving me that shit about he was played as a winger - if work-rate was his greatest asset he should've worked to ensure that he popped up in the box a little more), and Waghorn also has work-rate as perhaps his greatest asset, but again doesn't quite manage to get himself in the right positions often enough. 11 in 20 in a hastily-put-together side that struggled for form and consistency is a return worth investing in - it's a return needed for promotion, if we're being honest. As it stands without that work-rate, he's an exceptionally good player at this level and in my opinion could cut it in the middle of the PL. I could certainly see your ideal, fantasy-world headless-chicken version of Yakubu playing for at least Spurs. Maybe that's just me, though.
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