Liamlcfc1 Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Things are hitting up all over the shop A Few Problems
accessory Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Well considering Yakubu is apparently shit 11 in 20 is a good return. That stat has limited value. Look at Fryatt's record in his first season with us or during our year in League 1 and you'll see what I mean. Morison isn't exactly a spring chicken still learning the game, he's a year younger than Yakubu. His career is still moving in an upwards direction though. And Yakubu did enough to impress Sven. That doesn't take much - look at Bednar and Kirkland last season. He played against the top six 5 times.... is that really enough to say he was found out? Our whole team was gubbins against the teams near the top most of the time. A scoring record still worse that Fryatt or Waghorn in similar games the previous season. I'd imagine his goal scoring record did the sweet talking. Most of his goals were against inadequate or unmotivated opponents. In games where we needed him, even against the likes of Palace, he went missing far too often.
The Padster Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 In games where we needed him, even against the likes of Palace, he went missing far too often. One man does not a team make.
lestajigs Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Things are hitting up all over the shop What?????????
Kitchandro Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 TBF I think a lot of players could have got 11 goals in 20 games with the chances we created. Not knocking his goalscoring but in this day and age you need to do a bit more than tap it in in from 6 yards. For every game that he scored there was another frustratingly woeful performance in which the team suffered as a result. There's no 'I' in team and all that.
Corky Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 ....as opposed to where Yakubu took us last season? Fair enough, it's the mindset I don't understand, where fans would rather see someone who is a lower standard but runs around a lot over someone who can be more effective where it matters.
sphericalfox Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Emile to Feed the Yak I baggsy that headline or variants of that headline copyright for the forthcoming Season. I expect the redtops and the Merc to pay me dues!
fleckneymike Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 TBF I think a lot of players could have got 11 goals in 20 games with the chances we created. Not knocking his goalscoring but in this day and age you need to do a bit more than tap it in in from 6 yards. For every game that he scored there was another frustratingly woeful performance in which the team suffered as a result. There's no 'I' in team and all that. The goals stats for the midfield and strikers would contradict that assertion.
hackneyfox Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 There's no 'I' in team and all that. True but there's a me in it, and 5 i's in 'individual brilliance' When Bert says that it's hotting up all over does he mean a glut of signings very soon?
Haydos Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Things are hitting up all over the shop In a good way or a bad way?
Kitchandro Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 The goals stats for the midfield and strikers would contradict that assertion. Stats shmats, I have eyes. Some of our performances were very poor towards the end of the season, just when we needed good ones. 50% of the time he was awful. Yes he is great when he turns it on. But if he was more consistent and energetic we might have finished higher. Some of Yakubu's performances definitely contributed to poor team displays. Before you go off on one, I said contributed I'm well aware there were other players not performing.
sdb Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Things are hitting up all over the shop Really hope that's not a typo with an 's' missing. Can you tell us anymore? Few hints eh?
Corky Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 TBF I think a lot of players could have got 11 goals in 20 games with the chances we created. Not knocking his goalscoring but in this day and age you need to do a bit more than tap it in in from 6 yards. For every game that he scored there was another frustratingly woeful performance in which the team suffered as a result. There's no 'I' in team and all that. Well you are knocking his goalscoring, a record that if Waghorn for example had then most would be saying what a brilliant signing he was and would gloss over those woeful performances.
Petchy Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Well done. No need to be a cvnt. People were trying to speculate about it being about other players when it simply wasn't. Oh, and the fact that you got +rep for that is an embarrassment. Give up with this forum sometimes...
shailen Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 What argument can be had over the yak signing.....he scores goals for fun!
fleckneymike Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Stats shmats, I have eyes. Some of our performances were very poor towards the end of the season, just when we needed good ones. 50% of the time he was awful. Yes he is great when he turns it on. But if he was more consistent and energetic we might have finished higher. Some of Yakubu's performances definitely contributed to poor team displays. Before you go off on one, I said contributed I'm well aware there were other players not performing. 50%, is that not a stat? Having an energetic striker is often a waste of time, expend the energy where its needed, otherwise we might as well get Iain Hume back.
Kitchandro Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Well you are knocking his goalscoring, a record that if Waghorn for example had then most would be saying what a brilliant signing he was and would gloss over those woeful performances. I'm knocking his consitency and overall displays. If Waghorn had that goalscoring record I can bet you he'd have been more important because his work for the team is fantastic. He chases, he moves into space, he wants the ball, he makes 50/50s his. And I'd argue if he played in the same games that Yakubu did he'd have a similar striker rate. How many of those goals weren't tap ins? 3? If we are halfway through the season and not doing as well as expected, I don't want people to be saying why are we being dominated away from home or why can't we break teams down. Because you know what one off the main reasons for that is. Yakubu's a very talented player but he needs to perform at crunch time, not just when it suits him.
The Padster Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 Before you go off on one, I said contributed I'm well aware there were other players not performing. So by that notion you point about the Yak is moot.
80footgiraffe Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 No need to be a cvnt. Everyone else was trying to speculate about it being about other players when it simply wasn't. Alright, chill out. Stop swearing you're embarrassing yourself. By the way, don't draw attention to you ineptitude to solve simple riddles.
Kitchandro Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 50%, is that not a stat? Having an energetic striker is often a waste of time, expend the energy where its needed, otherwise we might as well get Iain Hume back. No 50% is not a stat in this case. If Yakubu had Hume's energy and work ethic we'd be on a winner. So by that notion you point about the Yak is moot. No, not at all.
artursteppe Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 That stat has limited value. Look at Fryatt's record in his first season with us or during our year in League 1 and you'll see what I mean. His career is still moving in an upwards direction though. That doesn't take much - look at Bednar and Kirkland last season. A scoring record still worse that Fryatt or Waghorn in similar games the previous season. Most of his goals were against inadequate or unmotivated opponents. In games where we needed him, even against the likes of Palace, he went missing far too often. I don't know if you are a Wellens fan, I am not, but Wellens only performed against the poorer teams, particularly if we already had a two goal lead, then he would really shine. If you do think Wellens has the sun shining from his bum, I must accuse you of inconsistency. However if you recognise that Wellens is poor against strong and powerful oppositions, you may have a valid observation on Yukubu.
Petchy Posted 9 June 2011 Posted 9 June 2011 @80footgiraffe: Feel free to contribute to the forum then, instead of your usual nonsensical posts. Not only are you wrong , but anyone with a degree of intellect would know that I was stating the answer of the 'so called riddle' just so it wouldn't be brought up again because as we all know on this forum, you can have a 20 page thread over a stupid tweet. /rant.
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