sbfox Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 1) We haven't even signed him and people are slating the lad (and Sven) already. 2) People are assuming that players will suddenly simply want to come and play for us. Yeah, Neil Danns is just gonna turn up at Belvoir Drive with his boots, ready to go... 3) The IQ of FoxesTalk took yet another hit in this topic. EDIT: The guy is younger than me, give him a bloody chance. He's obviously scored goals, even with crap service (if he even signs).
Cat Burger Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 From the impression I get from here you'd think that Evans had already signed and flopped. I know little about the lad but at 22 he's hardly a 'has been'. Also need I remind that in our relegation season Matty Fryatt who seems to be jizzed over by a lot of our fans only scored 2 goals in 30 games. In Sven I trust. I was joking with that comment. I was highlighting the spoilt nature of some of the FT members.
Nocturnal Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 I was joking with that comment. I was highlighting the spoilt nature of some of the FT members. Being honest I did think you were joking Included it anyway as there's no doubt that some on here would think that way.
RowlattsFox Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 definitely better deal. less wages so overall cheaper, more potential to improve and also he hasnt sexually assulted any women, broke their nose or anything else like that.... although thats another thread of course ;-) Not sure about the less wages part, allegedlly on a very handsome wage at Sheff Utd and they are quite keen to get him off the wage bill.
Babylon Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 1) We haven't even signed him and people are slating the lad (and Sven) already. 2) People are assuming that players will suddenly simply want to come and play for us. Yeah, Neil Danns is just gonna turn up at Belvoir Drive with his boots, ready to go... 3) The IQ of FoxesTalk took yet another hit in this topic. EDIT: The guy is younger than me, give him a bloody chance. He's obviously scored goals, even with crap service (if he even signs).
Father Ted Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Better than Marlon King. Better than Leon Crncic though?
Narborough_fox Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Better than Leon Crncic though? How can he better than someone who doesn't exist?
Dan Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Jeeez opinions on here change. There were people on here wanking themselves silly when he was linked 2 years ago!! Decent signing for a Mil, will do a job. People need to realise we're Leicester City, not every single top player in the world wants to sign for us!! Yes, that was before he'd proven himself at this level. Proven himself to be not good enough. I'm not sure, think we can do a LOT better. We should go for Ricardo Fuller, I think he'd be chuffing quality for us. And by a LOT better, I mean this.
ScouseFox Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Proven himself to be "not good enough" in a shit side. Fryatt scored what was it, 2 goals in 18 months or something daft when we were shit, then was our top scorer last year, with 13 despite missing a big chunk of the season. Different players play well in different sides, and almost all players play better with quality around them. Sven knows what he's doing, why write Evans off before he's even joined? Another example, DJ, who we all know is shit, was shit for us and will always be shit. Yet, in a different side with better players around him, got promoted and bagged double figures in a relegated Premier League team. Players play well at different clubs, different surroundings, with different players and styles of play.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Proven himself to be "not good enough" in a shit side. Fryatt scored what was it, 2 goals in 18 months or something daft when we were shit, then was our top scorer last year, with 13 despite missing a big chunk of the season. Different players play well in different sides, and almost all players play better with quality around them. Sven knows what he's doing, why write Evans off before he's even joined? Another example, DJ, who we all know is shit, was shit for us and will always be shit. Yet, in a different side with better players around him, got promoted and bagged double figures in a relegated Premier League team. Players play well at different clubs, different surroundings, with different players and styles of play. A large chunk of those were penalties though. But you're right different people play better in different sides. Some times it jsu tdoesnt work out for people. It didnt work out for DJ here, it hasnt worked out for Evans at Sheffield. You shouldnt always be judged on just one thing. He could turn out to be a great signing, and then we can look back at some of the comments in this thread and laugh.
ScouseFox Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 A large chunk of those were penalties though. But you're right different people play better in different sides. Some times it jsu tdoesnt work out for people. It didnt work out for DJ here, it hasnt worked out for Evans at Sheffield. You shouldnt always be judged on just one thing. He could turn out to be a great signing, and then we can look back at some of the comments in this thread and laugh. Yeah, give Sven a chance, there's not even anything official is there? He's miles away from playing for us, yet people have already decided we could do better, he'll be shit, waste of money etc. Just wait and see guys. If he comes, misses a load of chances, we have a mediocre season, then consider starting to slag him off. Not before he's even joined.
Bert Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Proven himself to be "not good enough" in a shit side. Fryatt scored what was it, 2 goals in 18 months or something daft when we were shit, then was our top scorer last year, with 13 despite missing a big chunk of the season. Different players play well in different sides, and almost all players play better with quality around them. Sven knows what he's doing, why write Evans off before he's even joined? Another example, DJ, who we all know is shit, was shit for us and will always be shit. Yet, in a different side with better players around him, got promoted and bagged double figures in a relegated Premier League team. Players play well at different clubs, different surroundings, with different players and styles of play. DJ Campbell isn't shit. Double figures in the prem? Give me DJ over Ched Evans ANYDAY.
ScouseFox Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 DJ Campbell isn't shit. Double figures in the prem? Give me DJ over Ched Evans ANYDAY. Which is my point. He's not shit, but, ask the majority of our fans, and he's a shit, useless waste of space and money. Yet ask fans of Blackpool, he's the dogs bollocks. And even neutrals are taking note now. That's what I'm saying, Ched Evans might follow the same path, shit and disliked at one club, fit in at Leicester, play well, he becomes a hero. Who knows.
Petchy Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 To the people doubting Evans' goal scoring record, they don't need to look further than their 'darling' Matty Fryatt. With the right service and tactics, as shown under Pearson, he will guarantee you goals. I'm sure Evans will be the same as with our tactics and service provided from the midfield, he will score a considerable number. - hopefully
brockmyster Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 10 in 28 for norwich and looked a decent prospect when playing for man city in the prem. Lets all face it sheff utd dont have the best of service to give to strikers, so with a good supply behind him i could see him proving well!
The Doctor Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 The Waghorn signing was a JOKE the fee we paid for him Steve Bruce didnt want to let him go, but Christ you dont turn down £3,000,000 for a fringe player with no first team pedigree at his home club! It was done out of desperation and not an ounce of thought as to how he would fit into our system, consequently he played out of position, lost confidence and quite probably will at some point end up leaving, and we will have racked up a huge loss on him. Whats more, Ched Evans has proven himself, hes proven himself to be crap, and certainly not worthy of £1 million. We need midfield strength.......Don Cowie at Watford, brilliant player, snap him up! Width and trickery........Celtic got Commons, at a time he was absolutely on FIRE, for £300,000. There is no need to spend over the top on crap when there is a TON of talent out there because commons contract was running down, celtic could take the piss knowing derby could either sell him for that or risk losing him for free a couple of months later. And if you want to buy that talent you need to spend big money 9 times out of 10, there maybe a few players out there who are better and cheaper than evans but would they want to come to leicester? 1M for evans would be tidy business for us.
Guest ttfn Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 DJ Campbell isn't shit. Double figures in the prem? Give me DJ over Ched Evans ANYDAY. Don't want to drag this up again - DJ has been excellent this season and proven me wrong - but he was absolute dogshit for us. Before last season he'd never bagged more than 9 league goals in a season. Let's not make him out as something he's not. As for Evans, I understand the comments being made here about different players doing well in different circumstances. But it's all a bit underwhelming. I've never seen anything of the lad to suggest he'd be an improvement on what we already have. We already have a squad full of decent Championship squad-fillers. What we need now is real quality first-teamers. Maybe he could be it. But I can certainly understand why people wouldn't think he would be.
sbfox Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Yes, that was before he'd proven himself at this level. Proven himself to be not good enough. I'm not sure, think we can do a LOT better. And by a LOT better, I mean this. 'kinell... Show me where a) Ricardo Fuller has indicated that he wants to come to City and b) when Stoke are gonna let him come here. Let's face it, we can only sign players who are out of contract and/or who want to come to us. Unfortunately, that means that 90% of players are unavailable to us. For what its worth, Ched Evans is only 22, has scored goals and will likely to be hungry to prove himself after being in a relegation squad last year. All those saying "why can't we get Kris Commons for 300k, Sven is a nobber". Are you being serious? I think Celtic might just, just JUST have a tiny bit more pulling power than us.
Ozwin Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Waghorn, Vassell, Howard. They're the only strikers we have and you could arguably say that Waghorn and Howard might not even be here next season. We will definately need a few filler players and you can't really go wrong with Ched Evans as a backup. The main thing is signing a class first choice striker ala Yakubu or Kamara or someone else.
Fox2323 Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Evans only has 1 year left on his contract so I think we should sign him for less considering he hasn't set the world a light
Donut Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Do you even understand what the word flop means. for a young striker, in a relegated team to score 10 goals is an excellent achievement... Just to spell it out for you... strikers in relegated teams dont usually get very good service which means they get less chances.. and you consider him a flop? those players you mention were great deals... but they were not bought today were they Mr Wum? Everton bought Gary Lineker for £800,000 from us. we should do that too. So.. today... right now... for £1,000,000... i do not see any better options but i would love to know who YOU think... would be a better option based on TODAYS prices for a player who is available RIGHT NOW.. ? Im sorry but this is a shockingly inept FAIL of a post. He joined Sheffield United in 09 in a season when they finished 8th, narrowly missing out on the playoffs and they scored 62 goals. He barely scored any of them, and couldnt even command a starting role regularly. Are you telling me that the service they had to score 62 goals and finish 8th was suddenly turned off every time SHED evans played? And yet he commands fees in the millions? And whos available right now? David Nugent Riccardo Fuller John Carew Yohan Elmander how much would they cost? £0. And im supposed to be a WUM? No, i just know talent when i see it, and players who clearly have none of it.
Donut Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 'kinell... Show me where a) Ricardo Fuller has indicated that he wants to come to City and b) when Stoke are gonna let him come here. Let's face it, we can only sign players who are out of contract and/or who want to come to us. Unfortunately, that means that 90% of players are unavailable to us. For what its worth, Ched Evans is only 22, has scored goals and will likely to be hungry to prove himself after being in a relegation squad last year. All those saying "why can't we get Kris Commons for 300k, Sven is a nobber". Are you being serious? I think Celtic might just, just JUST have a tiny bit more pulling power than us. that point was made that you dont need to spend over the top on shit when there is quality about at decent prices, simple as that.
sdb Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Im sorry but this is a shockingly inept FAIL of a post. He joined Sheffield United in 09 in a season when they finished 8th, narrowly missing out on the playoffs and they scored 62 goals. He barely scored any of them, and couldnt even command a starting role regularly. Are you telling me that the service they had to score 62 goals and finish 8th was suddenly turned off every time SHED evans played? And yet he commands fees in the millions? And whos available right now? David Nugent Riccardo Fuller John Carew Yohan Elmander how much would they cost? £0. And im supposed to be a WUM? No, i just know talent when i see it, and players who clearly have none of it. those two wouldn't come here, Elmander's off elsewhere anyway, and Carew's on £60k a week. Fuller was priced at £3 mill in Jan, contract may be out but a) he's injured b) Stoke will try to keep and c) Sunderland want him. Agree that Evan's isn't good enough for us though. A real step down from Hesk/Yak/Maynard.
sbfox Posted 24 May 2011 Posted 24 May 2011 Im sorry but this is a shockingly inept FAIL of a post. He joined Sheffield United in 09 in a season when they finished 8th, narrowly missing out on the playoffs and they scored 62 goals. He barely scored any of them, and couldnt even command a starting role regularly. Are you telling me that the service they had to score 62 goals and finish 8th was suddenly turned off every time SHED evans played? And yet he commands fees in the millions? And whos available right now? David Nugent Riccardo Fuller John Carew Yohan Elmander how much would they cost? £0. And im supposed to be a WUM? No, i just know talent when i see it, and players who clearly have none of it. You think Elmander, Carew or Fuller would even WANT to come here?? I can't see good, Premiership quality strikers coming here when they'll easily find clubs to take them on. Oh and in '09, Ched Evans was only 20ish, hardly old enough to lead the front-line... [/b] that point was made that you dont need to spend over the top on shit when there is quality about at decent prices, simple as that. Again, show me where this abundance of cheap, available talent is...
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