orangecity23 Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 The key point for me is that Sven has worked extensively with Evans before at Man City - He knows what he'll be buying if he puts a bid in. He might have been underwhelming at Sheff Utd, but he looked promising when he first broke through at Man City, and he could easily come good again. Also, as people have brought up, QPR fans would hardly have been creaming themselves when Mackie arrived last season, and that turned out to be a very astute bit of business. Nobody should write him off before he's even arrived.
Dan Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 £20k a week for Ched Evans? lol Wouldn't do that if he was a free agent, take Yakubu, Nugent, Kamara, Waghorn & Vassell ALL over him personally.
dannythefox Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 No, just in general. Waghorn seems to have a cult-like following on this forum. Waghorn looked class when he was on loan and scored 12 goals, this season under Sven hes fell out of favour and if were looking at players like Evans there's no point because hes no better than what we've got. Thats my opinion on it anyway!
dannythefox Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Just spoke to a mate whos a season ticket holder at sheff utd he said Ched Evans is on £15000 a week if thats helps anyone!
Kitchandro Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Yeah of course it's all i ever say, funny really considering you only bother quoting half of what I said. Also funny coming from someone who seems to do nothing but whinge and moan about everything. Fancy commenting on the other part of the post on how it's inevitable we're going to sign a few underwhelming squad players? Fryatt did not want to sit on the bench, it was his choice to not be part of our squad. Waghorn seemed to be making the same noises last year. So, we need to find some half decent players who ARE willing to sit in the bench for a bit. We cannot afford £3/4/5m for bench warmers, people need to be realistic. Who would you bring in on the cheap to fill out the squad places? It is pretty much all you ever say. The other part about signing underwhelming players is irrelevant to that. You're desperate to be negative about the majority of users and Leicester fans in general. You even gave the impression you wanted to defend Sousa, regardless of what you really think that's how it comes across - it seems you'd rather slate the fans than the manager. Yeh I whinge and moan a lot because people like you are cynical about anyone who has any criticism. It's pretty difficult to resist an argument with someone like that (and I tried to put you on my ignored users and wasn't allowed!). If everyone was hating on Sven constantly (and I don't mean fair criticism, I mean completely OTT criticism and calling for his head) I'd be sticking up for him. But only a minority of people do that, it's the majority that shoot you down if you criticise him or certain players. I mean it's one thing to disagree but to claim people have an ulterior motive or a bias is the majority of the time absolutely not true. Fryatt and Waghorn may have been unhappy because, as some poeple feel, his selection policy was wrong. I think that's definitely the case with Waghorn. The point is the squad, not just the first 11, needs to be better than this season, and should be expected to be better than last season with the resources we've got now. If it improves, fine, if it doesn't, it's only Sven's fault. And no I'm not judging the squad now I'm just saying that's how it is.
ajthefox Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Just spoke to a mate whos a season ticket holder at sheff utd he said Ched Evans is on £15000 a week if thats helps anyone! Whilst thats more sensible, your mate is still far from a reliable source. There were plenty here claiming Yakubu was on 50k and more earlier in the season, but the papers are now saying we're negotiating on his 35k a week wages.
topharry123 Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 I have to admit that i'm not really excited about his potential signing, but he's looked alright throughout his career and MIGHT make a good squad player. Who knows, alongside the Yak up fron he could be exactly what we need. I'd rather us not sign him, but there's players that we've been linked to who I would like to sign less, so if he does sign i'll put my faith in Sven with this one as he's clearly worked with him a lot before, and probably knows a lot more about him than any of us do. Let's judge sven on any signings he makes at Christmas rather than now; if we're top of the league then he'll have done a good job regardless of who we sign.
Finnegan Posted 13 June 2011 Posted 13 June 2011 Fryatt and Waghorn may have been unhappy because, as some poeple feel, his selection policy was wrong. I think that's definitely the case with Waghorn. The point is the squad, not just the first 11, needs to be better than this season, and should be expected to be better than last season with the resources we've got now. If it improves, fine, if it doesn't, it's only Sven's fault. And no I'm not judging the squad now I'm just saying that's how it is. The players aren't there to decide whether or not the selection policy is wrong, they're there to do as they're told by the manager. I have been massively, massively sympathetic towards Waghorn and his situation numerous times, quite vocally, on this forum but at the end of the day he's a very young player, still in his development, and has no divine right to start games. When he has been given opportunities he's looked very, very poor. And I don't want to hear any noise about "needing a run in the side" to produce or "being played in to form." You want young and enthusiastic players like that to burst into the squad with impact, show a bit of mental strength and pounce on every opportunity to play - that's how they get noticed, that's how they break in to teams. Waghorn just looked rushed, clumsy and technically poor. Ergo he was replaced and will be again this season. You can be as sentimental as you want, football isn't a game for it. As for rounding on Babs? Haha. He's one of the most reasonable and level headed posters on here, how you can take such great exception to his posting that you tried to block him is beyond me.
Babylon Posted 13 June 2011 Posted 13 June 2011 It is pretty much all you ever say. It really isn't. The other part about signing underwhelming players is irrelevant to that. How is it irrelevant in a thread about Ched Evans, replying to posts about him being underwhelming. It's anything but irrelevant, you're just trying to make it so. You even gave the impression you wanted to defend Sousa, regardless of what you really think that's how it comes across - it seems you'd rather slate the fans than the manager. That's all you ever say!!! That's all you ever say!!!! (to coin your phrase). I said right at the start I was worried about him, but I've said since day one on this forum that I will always give a manager time. That is not 4 games, if every manager got sacked after a 4 game poor start many clubs would have missed out on having success. Yeh I whinge and moan a lot because people like you are cynical about anyone who has any criticism. Absolute nonsense there are 100's and thousands of posts with reasonable critisism that don't get commented on at all. On the other hand there are posts along the lines of the following that do get posted on: On Yakubu "Scoring 11 in 21 is an irrelevant stat" then in the same sentence for a reason as to not sign him "he didn't score against a top 6 team". How the hell is one irrelevant and one not? Shit like that I will pick up on. On Sven: "Nugent is no better than fryatt. Sven didn't think fryatt was good enough for city, the same rule should apply to Nugent." Absolutely no problem with the first part, if he thinks he knows about Nugent from watching a couple of games on TV then fine. But the last comment is just plain silly. Suggesting he's somehow using different selection criteria because one is Fryatt and one is Nugent. Again, bits like that will get picked up on. I mean it's one thing to disagree but to claim people have an ulterior motive or a bias is the majority of the time absolutely not true. People don't have a bias? Come off it, the Chris Weale / Ricardo fiasco proved that there is a huge bias to a certain number of players. It's not just me who brings up this point, there a a large number of people who can see it. Fryatt and Waghorn may have been unhappy because, as some poeple feel, his selection policy was wrong. I think that's definitely the case with Waghorn. The point is the squad, not just the first 11, needs to be better than this season, and should be expected to be better than last season with the resources we've got now. If it improves, fine, if it doesn't, it's only Sven's fault. And no I'm not judging the squad now I'm just saying that's how it is. It's not their job to pick the team, if we want to improve we need to bring in players better than them also. This means they need to be happy on the bench, which clearly they aren't. Of course the squad needs to be better, but if they aren't happy being replaced and sitting on the bench, then we also need to replace them with people who will sit on the bench. As for rounding on Babs? Haha. He's one of the most reasonable and level headed posters on here, how you can take such great exception to his posting that you tried to block him is beyond me. Probably because I put up an argument and he doesn't like it.
RedHux Posted 16 June 2011 Posted 16 June 2011 You get a mention as being interested in the Welshie here Probably not news to your good selves but thought it worth mentioning.
TornadoShaunUK Posted 16 June 2011 Posted 16 June 2011 Hope we don't sign this guy personally. Don't think he'd offer anything that we haven't already got.
Nick Posted 18 June 2011 Posted 18 June 2011 Some fella on football rumours reckons he's working at the walkers and seen Ched wandering about the place. This is obviously a fact.
21st Century Fox Posted 18 June 2011 Posted 18 June 2011 Some fella on football rumours reckons he's working at the walkers and seen Ched wandering about the place. This is obviously a fact. Hahaha I like the thought of a 'new' signing wandering around a stadium lost.
21st Century Fox Posted 18 June 2011 Posted 18 June 2011 Walking round with an upside down map. and a hand written note with directions written in Thai.
80footgiraffe Posted 18 June 2011 Posted 18 June 2011 and a hand written note with directions written in Thai.
MikeyT Posted 18 June 2011 Posted 18 June 2011 He should get a rep point for that if i got one for mine!
body102 Posted 18 June 2011 Posted 18 June 2011 page 9 of todays sun . Footie ace Ched Evans has been quizzed over an alleged sex attack on a blonde in a budget hotel
body102 Posted 18 June 2011 Posted 18 June 2011 link http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3645691/Wales-star-Ched-Evans-quizzed-over-sex-attack.html
TheUltimateWinner Posted 18 June 2011 Posted 18 June 2011 link http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3645691/Wales-star-Ched-Evans-quizzed-over-sex-attack.html OMG... Ive just got back from north wales as well, Gosh i hope he didn't get me to. But i bet its just a wanna be wag starting a story
blue army 1988 Posted 18 June 2011 Posted 18 June 2011 page 9 of todays sun . Footie ace Ched Evans has been quizzed over an alleged sex attack on a blonde in a budget hotel With Leicesters players history he sounds perfect for the club.
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