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Let me guess who people will point the finger at and I bet it won't be anyone associated with Leicester City.

Thing is the things the led to us losing were correct decisions by him, but not through some people's blue (or white today) tinted glasses no doubt.

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Think it was a sending off... very debatable penalty though, thought he won the ball.

And though Beausejour shoud've definitely received a second yellow- surely stopping us in a promising position (right on the edge of the area?!)

Think King's appeal was just as much of a peno as there's.

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Matt Mills is definitely to blame, an experienced centre back, let alone club captain, cannot be lunging in like that.

Ref's decisions were correct for the pen and red card.

But, we could have had a pen and beasuejour could have had a second yellow. So thats where the blame should lie with the ref, inconsistency.

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He got the penalty right, and the sending off.

However Beausejour's was a yellow and King deserved at least an indirect free-kick.

But we didn't lose the game because of the referee.

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He got the penalty right, and the sending off.

However Beausejour's was a yellow and King deserved at least an indirect free-kick.

But we didn't lose the game because of the referee.

Agreed

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Think it was a sending off... very debatable penalty though, thought he won the ball.

And though Beausejour shoud've definitely received a second yellow- surely stopping us in a promising position (right on the edge of the area?!)

Think King's appeal was just as much of a peno as there's.

King didn't win the ball. It was a penalty.

But the penalty claim at their end should also have been given.

Beausejour should have been off for them as he should have had a second yellow (in fact his tackle on Peltier in the first half was every bit as bad as the one which saw Mills sent off).

However, we lost the game because we were sh!te - end of.

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I blame ourselves primarily because the extent to which we dominated the first half should have translated to goals. If it had, I daresay we'd have been more comfortable in the second. Had we gone in 2-0 thanks to a bit of positive thinking, we'd have been fine.

However, the referee got both penalty decisions wrong. King clearly got a foot on the ball for theirs and was patently obstructed at the other end later in the game. Without those two mistakes, it could have been a different result. Mills' sending off was perhaps harsh considering he was clearly going for, and won, the ball but you can't go in with both feet up when another player is coming towards you and expect to get away with it.

The ref did alter the game and was poor, but I don't think he was as influential as the godawful idiot we had inflicted upon us at Forest.

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Both decisions were correct.

However, I knew the referee would be in the middle of it all, because he walked down and out of the tunnel like someone he isn't.

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Let me guess who people will point the finger at and I bet it won't be anyone associated with Leicester City.

Thing is the things the led to us losing were correct decisions by him, but not through some people's blue (or white today) tinted glasses no doubt.

You're right, the ref did get it right, even though I thought the peno was a bit soft, It was just a frustrating ugly match, poor passing plus we made a few key mistakes and thats what cost us today, fair play to birmingham they hustled us and took their chances. I thought we played a lot of wasted balls, and mills challenge looked a frustrated tackle, two footed challenges are simply not allowed. just a bad day at the office. mellow.png

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Red was probably correct, did win the ball but you can't go in like that but I'd say Beausajour's first half was just as bad.

Penalty was very harsh and our claim later for obstruction on king was just as good a shout - either give both or neither.

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Right maybe I just look into things too much but this is how it seems to go when decisions are made against Leicester in matches.

People either;

a) Blame the referee for us not winning.

b) When they can't disagree with a decision because the referee made the correct decision they seem to go 'tit for tat' and complain that we should have had the same decisions. (King shouldn't have had a peno, The Birmingham player was just defending, a defending well, maybe our players should take a leaf out his book, the claim they should have had a player off, debatable, would these people be saying he should have been sent off if Mills wasn't sent off, or if we'd won? I doubt it)

c) When we win a game, the referee never gets a mention, even if he was shit.

Don't get me wrong, and I seem to be repeating myself more and more often, I hate referees, I'm one of the first the go mad at a bad decision but just makes me laugh when they get berated when they've made correct decisions and fans seem to refuse to give and honest assement of the game and the point straight at the referees rather than looking at how we played and questioning that, I must say today, alot of people are saying the referee made the correct decisions and we can't feel hard done by, refreshing, however a few comments seem to be linking up with option b of the above.

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I blame ourselves primarily because the extent to which we dominated the first half should have translated to goals. If it had, I daresay we'd have been more comfortable in the second. Had we gone in 2-0 thanks to a bit of positive thinking, we'd have been fine.

However, the referee got both penalty decisions wrong. King clearly got a foot on the ball for theirs and was patently obstructed at the other end later in the game. Without those two mistakes, it could have been a different result. Mills' sending off was perhaps harsh considering he was clearly going for, and won, the ball but you can't go in with both feet up when another player is coming towards you and expect to get away with it.

The ref did alter the game and was poor, but I don't think he was as influential as the godawful idiot we had inflicted upon us at Forest.

THIS

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If Mills deserved a red and they deserved a penalty then Beusejour deserved a red and we deserved a penalty.

Dead right. Right calls in B'ham's favour, dogshit decisions For Beausejour (Who cheated all afternoon) and King's Penalty shout.

Inconsistent.

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Right maybe I just look into things too much but this is how it seems to go when decisions are made against Leicester in matches.

People either;

a) Blame the referee for us not winning.

b) When they can't disagree with a decision because the referee made the correct decision they seem to go 'tit for tat' and complain that we should have had the same decisions. (King shouldn't have had a peno, The Birmingham player was just defending, a defending well, maybe our players should take a leaf out his book, the claim they should have had a player off, debatable, would these people be saying he should have been sent off if Mills wasn't sent off, or if we'd won? I doubt it)

c) When we win a game, the referee never gets a mention, even if he was shit.

Don't get me wrong, and I seem to be repeating myself more and more often, I hate referees, I'm one of the first the go mad at a bad decision but just makes me laugh when they get berated when they've made correct decisions and fans seem to refuse to give and honest assement of the game and the point straight at the referees rather than looking at how we played and questioning that, I must say today, alot of people are saying the referee made the correct decisions and we can't feel hard done by, refreshing, however a few comments seem to be linking up with option b of the above.

There were a lot of 50-50 decisions today. EVERY single one of them went in the brummies' favour.

1) First half - Beausejour clatters Peltier with chest high, studs-up challenge. The referee could easily have sent Beausejour off, but chooses instead to issue a yellow.

2) Second half - Beausejour and King challenge for ball in penalty area. Beausejour falls theatrically to ground. Substitute ref decides contact was made and awards penalty. Replay suggests decision was right.

3) Peltier beats Beausejour and prepares to cross, only to be scythed from behind. Beausejour makes NO attempt to play the ball. Referee chooses not to book Beausejour.

4) Mills challenges Gomis with studs-up ball winning challenge. The referee deems this dangerous play and issues Mills with red card.

5) King and Ridgewell challenge for ball in penalty area. Ridgewell catches King's foot and does not play ball. The referee (whose view admittedly may have been obscured) waves play on.

While we shouldn't blame the refs (either of them) for our defeat, neither should we pretend they gave immaculate, flawless performances. They didn't. I genuinely can't recall a game at the Way in which so many of the big decisions (penalties, red cards etc) went for us.

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The pen was a pen. The red card for me is debatable...honestly. Stupid from Mills but eyes on the ball, opposition player didn't have it. I don't think a yellow would have been a bad call, but there you go. Most will disagree and I can see why. However, the ref only blew up after the Brum players protested. That's hard to swallow. Boursajeour (sp) should've been sent off, and King should have got a penalty. So I would say he had a pretty bad half all told. But we didn't deserve anything, which makes it kinda easier to take.

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Right maybe I just look into things too much but this is how it seems to go when decisions are made against Leicester in matches.

People either;

a) Blame the referee for us not winning.

b) When they can't disagree with a decision because the referee made the correct decision they seem to go 'tit for tat' and complain that we should have had the same decisions. (King shouldn't have had a peno, The Birmingham player was just defending, a defending well, maybe our players should take a leaf out his book, the claim they should have had a player off, debatable, would these people be saying he should have been sent off if Mills wasn't sent off, or if we'd won? I doubt it)

c) When we win a game, the referee never gets a mention, even if he was shit.

A) It has happened on here, yes.

B) I did go "tit for tat" because that's what went on. Their penalty and our red were correct decisions for me, yet their winger should've had a second yellow and Ridgewell blocked King without playing the ball. Obstruction at least.

C) I have criticised referees when we've won games before, I will always say whether the ref has performed well or not, regardless of the result.

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I don't normally blame the ref, but it didn't look like a penalty from the angle I saw. However, didn't see it from a great angle, so could be wrong.

Mills was a red for sure. Harsh, since he did win the ball, but 2 feet studs up is always asking for it!

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Packing the middle of the park with 4 central midfield players is why we lost.

Just wondering, did you ask to keep the same team this game?

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Some deluded nutters on here tonight coming out with crap excuses. The Birmingham keeper never even needed to get his knees dirty!

Blame the ref? Get a grip lads.

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Even if the ref hadn't gave the penalty or the sending off we still wouldn't have won that game.

It was the same as Cardiff, if the other team closes us down and stays compact we are screwed and struggle to play our usual game.

It pisses me off that Sven STILL doesn't have a plan B. Teams will combat our natural threat through the middle by packing the midfield, we need wingers available to be able to change things up if the diamond isn't working.

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