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Legalise cannabis?

By lavrentis, in General Chat

Legalise?  

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  1. 1. Should Marijuana be legal?

    • Yes
      295
    • No
      198

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Rincewind

Rincewind

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Anyone remember Charles Street police station? I used to walk by there and there were a couple of concrete things that had flowers in and I sometimes thought what would happen if somebody put a couple of cannabis plants in them. Would the police that worked there notice?

lavrentis

lavrentis

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Anyone remember Charles Street police station? I used to walk by there and there were a couple of concrete things that had flowers in and I sometimes thought what would happen if somebody put a couple of cannabis plants in them. Would the police that worked there notice?

 

Do it Ken

Rincewind

Rincewind

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Do it Ken

Its all knocked down and changed now. Its just my strange sense of humour. I was always worried they would have CCTV and catch me. Dont mind others doing it though/ Why didnt anyone else thinkof it?

lavrentis

lavrentis

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Its all knocked down and changed now. Its just my strange sense of humour. I was always worried they would have CCTV and catch me. Dont mind others doing it though/ Why didnt anyone else thinkof it?

 

id smoke a joint wit u ken

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Bellend Sebastian

Bellend Sebastian

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How potentially forward thinking of them.  I've no idea to what an extent this would be a vote winner or a vote loser at the moment, or whether those for and against would overall just cancel each other out.

 

Anyway, in other druggy related news I thought this was an interesting read:

 

http://www.vice.com/read/inside-the-world-of-a-british-undercover-drugs-cop-729?utm_source=vicetwitterus

 

Might be alone in this of course

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ADK

ADK

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Sending people to prison for drug use is a waste of resources and doesn't help anyone. Although that doesn't mean they should be fully legalised.

PAPA LAZAROU

PAPA LAZAROU

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I'm happy for people to take drugs. kill themselves with them become addicted to them , shoot each other over the sales of them , form cartels and generally ruin each others lives.

 

 

The problem is it doesn't stop within them. Society in general pays for their addictions through robberies , massive drain on the health and welfare systems and the results of drugged up behavior in public. I've lost count of the times I've had to witness and smell some low life sniggering  and giggling surrounded by a fug of cannabis smoke. Not a very edifying sight at all. 

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David Guiza

David Guiza

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Decriminalisation of drugs for personal use under review by Lib Dems

Policy paper due for discussion at next month's party conference also proposes an open market in cannabis

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/08/lib-dems-drug-policy-decriminalise-for-personal-use

Their promise to lower/banish tuition fees has really come of age since the coalition government. A party like the Lib Dems can make as many empty promises as they wish, the only way they'll get in is another hung parliament. Interesting proposition nonetheless.

However, I can't help but think that after the first drug related death post change in the law there would be public uproar.

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sphericalfox

sphericalfox

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I'm happy for people to take drugs. kill themselves with them become addicted to them , shoot each other over the sales of them , form cartels and generally ruin each others lives.

 

 

The problem is it doesn't stop within them. Society in general pays for their addictions through robberies , massive drain on the health and welfare systems and the results of drugged up behavior in public. I've lost count of the times I've had to witness and smell some low life sniggering  and giggling surrounded by a fug of cannabis smoke. Not a very edifying sight at all. 

 

I'd say the statistics that I've read don't suggest that level of scale on either of those particular institutes. Yes there's an issue which could be improved, but if you compare it to the banks, the high flying corporate *****, that have rinsed us, and are sniggering down their sleeves at us, at a cost of billions and billions of money we will never see again, and billions and billions that will be continued to be drained from all of our pockets, unless those pockets are lined with gold and reside in a tax haven that is.

 

These addicts that you mention are not a widespread epidemic, we need a methodology that works. The current system does not reduce the problem, it reinforces it, and arguably makes it worse.

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Carl the Llama

Carl the Llama

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I'm happy for people to take drugs. kill themselves with them become addicted to them , shoot each other over the sales of them , form cartels and generally ruin each others lives.

 

 

The problem is it doesn't stop within them. Society in general pays for their addictions through robberies , massive drain on the health and welfare systems and the results of drugged up behavior in public. I've lost count of the times I've had to witness and smell some low life sniggering  and giggling surrounded by a fug of cannabis smoke. Not a very edifying sight at all. 

What a silly thing to say.  You start off talking about robberies and social & health benefits before talking about someone smoking a bit of weed.  I smoke a lot of weed (have done for 5-6 years now) and have never resorted to theft nor has it sent me to the hospital, nor have I ever claimed benefits.  In general I keep to myself and spend my money such that I can afford to fund my habit and still afford nice things like a new car or a swanky computer at which I sit giggling surrounded by a fug of cannabis smoke.  How am I and those like me massively draining your tax money?

 

I think the first part of your argument more accurately alludes to the use of 'hard' chemical compounds like Meth and Heroin and, without looking up the figures (you haven't either so don't take the high ground on that score - at least I can say I'm too stoned to bother, being a morally upstanding individual you should have all the facts to hand before making your spurious claims) I'd suggest it's not nearly as prevalent or fiscally draining an activity as your paranoia (again, I'm stoned, what's your excuse?) has led you to believe.  So some people like to smoke and you don't like the smell.  That's hardly cause for continuing an ineffective regime which criminalises decent folk and at the same time funnels money from legitimately taxed enterprises.  That's where the true drain on your precious tax money lies.

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Bellend Sebastian

Bellend Sebastian

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All over the news this morning:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/oct/30/punitive-drug-laws-are-failing-study

Interesting article in many ways, aside from the fact it's about an evidence based Home Office study.

The thing that caught my eye was the suggestion that drug use was falling because of a more "risk averse" younger generation, which mirrors stuff I've read about young people drinking less.

What's going on, kids? Well done, anyway

You beat me to it, Steven. No surprises there!

Vacamion

Vacamion

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Cameron / Tories appear dead set against legalisation.

Seems wrong for a party which claims to want people to take individual responsibility for their actions.

Lib Dems, on the other hand, making noises in the opposite direction.

I think putting a 'we would legalise' (and tax it) pledge in the manifesto would be a vote winner, if explained properly, but I don't think the Lib Dems will go that far.

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