Hull Post Match

[yorkie1999]

No wonder Nigel wasn't downbeat after the game. It was his team that beat us

[strattylcfc]

Cant believe people are blaming Gally, seriously WTF. He gets shoved up top on his own with 3 defenders around him whilst no other player supports and youre criticising him? He did whatever he could, but leaving 1 man up top and asking him to 'go fetch' never wins a game IMO.

I agree with all of the above

[Thracian]

Dyer for me wasnt in the game again, Rosenior had just as much pace as him and had more strength so the usual tap and run was pointless and wasnt working, thats why he would of been sacrifised.

No? I thought he started the move that led to our goal from the sort of central area he made a goal against Blackpool as well.

And judging by some assessments he didn't have a bad game either in the circumstances - contributing his fair share of chasing back and having little chance of meaningful attack as the game went on because no-one had the strength left to support him.

Nugent went off knackered, Beckford had been sacrificed, Danns was subbed after hardly functioning, King was seconded to defensive duties, Wellens was struggling with his passing, Schlupp had been abandoned, and we got that desperate we utilised Gallagher at centre-forward for some crazy reason!

Some launchpad for Dyer that. Personally I'd praise the bloke for even keeping his head up and doing what he could to help the tireless Konchesky. Cos once Mills' departure gave licence for their full-backs to raid at will we were just like a condemned man desperately seeking a stay of execution.

[Guest Col city fan]

No? I thought he started the move that led to our goal from the sort of central area he made a goal against Blackpool as well.

And judging by some assessments he didn't have a bad game either in the circumstances - contributing his fair share of chasing back and having little chance of meaningful attack as the game went on because no-one

had the strength left to support him.

Nugent went off knackered, Beckford had been sacrificed, Danns was subbed after hardly functioning, King was seconded to defensive duties, Wellens was having a mare, Schlupp had been abandoned, and we got that desperate we utilised Gallagher at centre-forward for some crazy reason!

Some launchpad for Dyer that. Personally I'd praise the bloke for even keeping his head up and doing what he could

to help the tireless Konchesky. Cos once Mills' departure gave licence for their full-backs to raid at will we were just like a condemned man desperately seeking a stay of execution.

Good post.. How is Dyer expected to be the pacy, attacking force on the flank, given the ridiculous circumstances that our own Skipper placed us in again yesterday.

Any game plan that Nige had went down the toilet with the sending off.

I wasn't at the game but if, as the bulk of posters seem to be alluding to, Gally was the lone man up top, this was a mistake. He's not a chase it down sort of player. We'd have been better to lump it up to big Steve Howard to keep it for a bit and bring the others into the play.

It sounded as if this were all academic though after Mills went off.

That's now two very winnable games that have been lost due to going down to ten men... And on both occasions the ref was spot on

Ridiculous

[Socks]

I'm not too bothered about this match

Mills was a twat and cost us the point(s)

apart from that we were good to hold on and it was only a great strike that settled it (from what i saw on the live stream)

let Hull have their moment, we will bounce back

nothing to worry about.....yet

but I think we still need a couple of players..

[Poakey]

****s sake, players get sent off, move on.

[Libertine Dream]

It was difficult for NP. Maybe he could have played 432 when we first went down to 10 men and been positive but he clearly thought with Dyer, Nugent and Danns on the pitch we'd be more attacking. He then took Danns off who had been poor (shame he didnt play where he played vs Pompey) to bring Gallagher on, makes some sense. NP then has the problem of Nugent not being able to run any longer, he brings on Fernandes who has a great work rate and closing down ability(similar to Nugents) to me it makes sense, just didn't work out. Had Howard come on it would have given us nothing more than what gallagher did, but we'd have been misaing a working midfielder. Howard couldn't have chased, held the ball up sufficiently or done anything notable in that game. Only having 5 subs potentially cost us that game, if we'd have had the seven then Schlupp could of come on to give them the run around. Poor decision by the FL.

Mills getting sent off twice is slightly annoying but like losing its part of modern day football and I dont see the Bolton fans hating Cahill(same level of debate as to whether its a sending off) or all you lot hating Steve Walsh, or Bamba because he's had 6 yellows.

Southampton lost yesterday so did West Ham, I've seen very few of there fans being critical and over anlyzing it, they've accepted it. I know they're 1st and 2nd but this league position ian't the fault of Pearson. I look forward to the next 4 games, all very winnable.

[artursteppe]

Face facts, Pearson got selection WRONG. How can any manager believe that Wellens, King, Dyer, Gallagher and Danns are all better than Fernandes, Abe and Johnson.

Is Nigel out of his depth? Our problem has been the midfield for many years - it still is. Apart from King, Nigel's favourites are all Division one players, and no better than that. Believe it, it is the truth. The major difference between this team and the second half of last season's team is the goalkeeper. The midfield is the same. We will go nowhere with Wellens, Gallagher, Danns and Dyer getting regular match time. It should be very limited for all of them. Midfield selection preferences should be given to King, Abe, Fernandes, Johnson, Bamba and Peltier. ( Defensive cover could come from Pantsil, St Ledger, and Tunchev ).

[Simmo86]

Jay Emmanuel Thomas plays for Ipswich who are currently on a 7 match losing streak.

Just shows how little you know if you think he would improve our midfield, no better than would we've already got!

[breadandcheese]

I wasn't at the game, but I cannot believe there's criticism when we've played 2/3rd's of the game with 10 men.

To get anything out of the game with only 10 men would have been a complete surprise. The fact we held out til the 88th minute is an achievement. With 10 men, we probably would have won.

[Bert]

Sorry but on what basis do you say he would have scored? Kasper was right on top of him, it's more than likely McLean wouldn't even have got on the end of it, and even then he's got to squeeze it past him from a difficult angle with very little to aim at.

Definitely not a red.

And I'd say Fryatt pretty much ran into Bamba - who didn't make a challenge

As soon as Alexei sees things his opinion is the only one that matters and everyone else is wrong.

[shiv]

Face facts, Pearson got selection WRONG. How can any manager believe that Wellens, King, Dyer, Gallagher and Danns are all better than Fernandes, Abe and Johnson.

Is Nigel out of his depth? Our problem has been the midfield for many years - it still is. Apart from King, Nigel's favourites are all Division one players, and no better than that. Believe it, it is the truth. The major difference between this team and the second half of last season's team is the goalkeeper. The midfield is the same. We will go nowhere with Wellens, Gallagher, Danns and Dyer getting regular match time. It should be very limited for all of them. Midfield selection preferences should be given to King, Abe, Fernandes, Johnson, Bamba and Peltier. ( Defensive cover could come from Pantsil, St Ledger, and Tunchev ).

Talk about overreacting... Nigel out of his depth? Grow up. We had 10 men for most of the game away from home. I haven't been a massive fan of Wellens this season but he has upped his game recently. With Gally and Dyer being our only wingers pretty much, Nigel is limited to his selection with the formation we play. Sven played 4 central midfielders (those you have mentioned) and it clearly didn't work.

[lee(lcfc)]

Mills cost us this game, such a ****ing stupid thing to do.

Some of his clearances have led to oppositions goals as well, I can think of at least two or three occasions this has happened.

However his red card against Forest was not his fault.

mills didnt get sent off against forest it was kasper, mills got sent off in the brum game.

[hbkkids]

watched the match at local pub who were showing it, we played well, mills wasn't a sending off, won the ball, i think we should of held on for the draw but we decided to go for 3 points and it didnt work.

[Charl91]

Dissapointed we lost, but not dissapointed in the players for the most part, who performed like hero's. They really did give it their all, especially the likes of Konchesky and Nugent.

Danns had a shocker though, and Wellens maybe even more so!

[look_back_in_amber]

Not being funny right, but when you win a cup final, don't you normally lift a trophy?

Nice to see the tinpot ****** enjoying their biggest game of the season, I'm amazed they seriously thought Pearson wouldn't leave them.

Are you a Leeds supporter who's lost?

[Guest Bilo]

I was expecting a cauldron of hate for Pearson's return and all he got was a barrage of Soccer AM style chants.

You should have been at Filbert Street in December '94 when Brian Little returned with Aston Villa. Now THAT was a hateful atmosphere.

Presumably you were at Darlington or Chester that day.

[Salieri]

Beckford, Beckford, Beckford... Fed up hearing about when he's gonna 'get his form', 'gel', 'settle in' et cetera et fookin cetera!!

Getting boring now

We can either continue to go round in circles and be also rans or bin the cvnt(s) and get in some quality and go for the jugular.

I hope Pearson does this.

And if anyone continues to argue that Matt Mills is worth five odd million quid then the farce goes on...

And finally.. Stop all this nonsense about squad players..

Are you that easily satisfied?

If Danns and Gally are good enough to start in our first team

then they should be good enough week in, week out

I have a lot of trust in Pearson to sort the wheat from the chaff.

As boring as having to read your constant whining, bitching and moaning which has been incessant from the moment you joined this forum?

I don't think so.

[ithuriel]

Can not understand some of the posts here, we know the team Sven built has serious limitation's and that Nigel is reviewing the player's and will make change's in January.

We also know that the team lack's real width since Sven wanted a lot of central midfield men and that the team we played was an established Pearson team playing against one that Pearson is just really starting to work on.

The only thing that is near to certain at present is that in four weeks time it will be interesting to see who we go for in the transfer market and until then the team will do the best it can.

[Dan]

Are you a Leeds supporter who's lost?

Too easy.

[Guest Col city fan]

As boring as having to read your constant whining, bitching and moaning which has been incessant from the moment you joined this forum?

I don't think so.

And as mundane as your continued satisfaction of mediocrity when we could and should be doing better. I now think we will do better.. With the correct players

You continue to be content with your players of 'squad' ability. I'll continue to suggest that we could now get better.

Beckford ain't the answer IMO.

I suggested this when we signed him and nothing I've seen yet has changed my opinion.

Enough whining for ya?

[lifted*fox]

Having been to the game yesterday, I honestly have to say I can't fault the effort of the team.

After going down to 10 men, we did well to fight back to 1-1, it definitely looked like we were on top going into half-time.

There was a genuine feeling that we could get the win at that point.

Unfortunately Hull utilised their extra man well & slowly ground us down over the second half, I think we did well to keep it level for so long.

Can't say that I walked away too upset, I thought we showed some real spirit.

I did think it was a bit strange that we tried to play Gally up front on his own, possibly there could have been better solutions to the problem - he also should have squared it to Dyer late in the game.

Support from the Leicester crowd was decent, thought the home support was very poor - extremely funny winding up the one guy on the right hand side, probably wished he'd stayed at home.

Good to meet the lads behind us by the big screen, kept our side of the crowd singing.

Anyway, onwards & upwards.

[seenitall]

Beckford, Beckford, Beckford... Fed up hearing about when he's gonna 'get his form', 'gel', 'settle in' et cetera et fookin cetera!!

Getting boring now

We can either continue to go round in circles and be also rans or bin the cvnt(s) and get in some quality and go for the jugular.

I hope Pearson does this.

And if anyone continues to argue that Matt Mills is worth five odd million quid then the farce goes on...

And finally.. Stop all this nonsense about squad players..

Are you that easily satisfied?

If Danns and Gally are good enough to start in our first team

then they should be good enough week in, week out

I have a lot of trust in Pearson to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Erm, he only played for half an hour - even the Swedish commentator thought Mills should have stayed on, the ball was heading out of play when his other leg caught their striker, so not really a sending off, and as he got the ball before the player, dubious as to whether a penalty or not! So let's see what a team without Mills and Beckford does - loses is generally the picture I am getting. If we want softy no tackling centre backs and donkey old strikers then that's fine, but I think Nige starts with Becks and Mills because he knows they are a cut above the tripe he had here last time - he just needs to see the light on Wellens, kick Andy King up the arse so he plays in every game like he means it and move Gally on to another club (whose poor corner conceded possession fro the second Hull goal - that's why he was shite, not because he is a crap centre forward, although he is one of those as well). Danns clearly has pace but will not be liked for a while because he has silly hair and Leicester City fans need to hate some players so they can enjoy their footy .

And finally - why stop the nonsense about squad players, based on your Danns and Gally theory we would have to have a squad of 11 players or start with 25 on the field.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Mills did get the ball, for the original tackle. But he then flicked out at their striker, thats what the peno and red card were for.

it was a penalty but surely a yellow card would have done for the foul?

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

I've said before that we havea lot of unintelligent players in the team.

Well after seeing Mills' challenge again that was just completely stupid and thick.

No excuses, and for a captain who cost 5m to show stupidity again just like at Brum well he deserved to get sent off.

Becoming a liability.