Hull Post Match

[Leicester_Loyal]

Bamba and St Ledger for Peterborough. If they play well, keep them together for a few matches.

[ScouseFox]

Annoying, hard to take. Even so, as has been said, there's positives there. Konchesky sounded as though he was an absolute hero out there, Nuge put himself about, defence were on the large part quite heroic.

Haven't seen the penalty/red decision, will comment once I have, but the (usually biased, it has to be said) radio commentary, and views of most on here seem to suggest we're been had here.

Ahh well, onwards and upwards, take the positives onto Peterborough, get a run going and put ourselves up there.

[I am Rod Hull]

He did get he ball... watch his foot as the ball is running through to kasper though, he flicks out at their striker.

I didnt notice that....

Bigger and better view on the FBLS needed maybe.

[Kitchandro]

Mills isn't a bad player, he just comes up with really piss-poor games occasionally.

Lapses of concentration and all that...

I think you can say the same about Bamba as well.

But what pisses me off about Mills is he does things without thinking. What he did today (sending off or not) was completely stupid and the Birmingham one was the same. He's made other errors but it's those 2 that really get my goat. So unnecessary and so costly.

[Thracian]

How strange our substitutions were when Howard, the one man likely to hold the ball a bit and give us a break, wasn't used and the only player who might have given us some fresh pace, Schlupp, was missing completely.

Having to use Gallagher up front was a sodding embarrassment - as it was last time we did it from memory.

The bloke doesn't have any sort of asset for playing centre-forward because he doesn't get the ball and doesn't have the pace or skill to work the ball in crowded situations.

I know he scores some good goals but they are either from dead ball situations or from places where he's got space. In a battling role he's a dead loss and always has been while he's been here.

Credit is due to the guys who did battle and who, in many cases, ran themselves to a standstill. But we didn't sound promising even in the first half hour and, with so many limitations being exposed, it is clear we'll have a hard enough fight to stay among the play-off contenders let alone reach the promised land of the top two.

[Foxhateram]

The way I see this, is under Sven we would have colapsed after the sending off and lost 2 or 3 nil. Today we seemed to show some fight and the way the lads were working together and jeeing each other up, and applauding each other. Shows major progress. We were always going to concede when wave after wave of attacks came our way.

I can see why we went with gallagher up top, I think Nige was looking for a bit of pace up there to latch onto the long ball that we know conchesky and schmiechal can deliver. It nearly worked to be fair when he linked up two or three times with lloyd, who seemed to be pelting from one box to another endlessly all game.

The lads showed grit and determination and there are plenty of positives to take from this performance. Was recording the game, and having seen the red card decision a billion times from several different angles, I cannot see anything that justifies a Penalty or a red card. Basically the ref was behind play saw a player go down and instantly blew the whistle without considering the situation effectively. Mills got the ball, disgraceful decision.

Ah well, onwards and upwards. The rest of the games this month are more than winnable. Come on the mighty blues. Top by the new year

[J.Lisemore]

Someone who can run a bit.

Not really the point, we needed someone to hold the ball up in their half. Not give it away at every opportunity.

[Leicester_Loyal]

I didnt notice that....

Bigger and better view on the FBLS needed maybe.

He did. All my mates are claiming it wasn't a peno either, but none of them saw the flick of the foot on their striker. It showed it on my stream. Definitely a peno.

Stupidity from Mills, I'm so pissed off. He let himself down, the rest of his teammates and most importantly the 2.5k travelling fans down. He needs to sort it out. His red card at B'ham also put us out of the game. His clearances at Leeds and I think Pompey also cost us goals. Either put it into the stands or click it up to the halfway line, not in-between.

Maybe I'm going a bit over the top, but I'm really annoyed at him.

[FoxTrott]

I think these were three points the majority of people on this forum weren't expecting us to take, so although some may feel we've lost a point, in the grand scheme of things we're still on track "to do well" over the course of this match. Onwards and upwards, take each game as they come as Pearson says.

[Kitchandro]

I feel a long way away from the play-off places all of a sudden

[FrankieADZ]

one of them annoying results....where nothing goes for u.

as for calling MIlls...I wouldnt hes been solid at the back the last few games, and the tackle he made today was a good 1...got the ball..i personally think it was a penalty but could have been called either way...but it was never a sending off.

It amazes me how so many ppl can suddenly just blame 1 player for the defeat. if he'd been sent off for punching someone then i maybe could agree but being sent off for a fair challenge; no a chance am i gonna slag him off

We pick ourselves up for Posh next weekend.

[smudger63]

Pearson had a bit of a shocker today, in my opinion, certainly with his final substitution.

Leaving Gally up front on his own, when he can`t head the ball, has no physical presence, and no pace was a bit strange, to say the least.

It meant we were always going to be inviting more pressure on us, because we had no one to hold the ball up, to give us a breather.

Howard was the obvious replacement, for Nugent.

He has a physical presence, will battle away for fun, and hold the ball up, and probably win us a few free kicks in and around the box, which with Gally already on the pitch, would have given us our best chance, of nicking a goal.

[Shrew]

Schmeichal Konch, Pelts, played well at the back - bamba played ok but screwed up which led to putting Mills under ridiculous pressure for the sending off. Can't see how Mills could be sent off as the ball was headed out of play after his block when he caught the guy as they both went down - very harsh and probably not a sending off - he shouldn't have been under that pressure though. St Ledger looks OK but was slow to close down the guy who scored for them so jury out for me.

Wellens was sluggish and gives the ball away too many times but considering he may well have been the only central midfielder with King asleep for the whole game, at least he tried. Thought Danns had a few god runs at defenders and Dyer did what he always does, looks quite flashy but rarely delivers a good ball in. Nugent looked good but doesn't flourish on his own up front (whereas I thought Beckford might, and should have been brought back on really for Nuge). Gallagher is always a bit rubbish at anything but wellying the ball - his appalling corner led to their possession for the second goal, Fernandes was ineffectual - poor sub bringing Gally on - he just isn't really good enough and although it pains me to say it, Steve H would have been better if we were resorting to hoof ball.

4 games in and Nige has dropped 5 points - another 6 or 7 like this and he'll be joining Sven I reckon

idiot

[Master Fox]

Not really the point, we needed someone to hold the ball up in their half. Not give it away at every opportunity.

You're probably right. But I'm not sure it would have made much difference. I'm not going to get all worked up about it. Just one of those games where we were very unlucky. I thought we played alright.

[J.Lisemore]

You're probably right. But I'm not sure it would have made much difference. I'm not going to get all worked up about it. Just one of those games where we were very unlucky.I thought we played alright.

Agree with you on that.

[smudger63]

I think these were three points the majority of people on this forum weren't expecting us to take, so although some may feel we've lost a point, in the grand scheme of things we're still on track "to do well" over the course of this match. Onwards and upwards, take each game as they come as Pearson says.

Well i must be in the minority then, because i fully expected us to get three points today.

[Master Fox]

Agree with you on that.

Good.

[Kitchandro]

one of them annoying results....where nothing goes for u.

as for calling MIlls...I wouldnt hes been solid at the back the last few games, and the tackle he made today was a good 1...got the ball..i personally think it was a penalty but could have been called either way...but it was never a sending off.

It amazes me how so many ppl can suddenly just blame 1 player for the defeat. if he'd been sent off for punching someone then i maybe could agree but being sent off for a fair challenge; no a chance am i gonna slag him off

We pick ourselves up for Posh next weekend.

So you think it was a penalty and a fair challenge?

You can say nothing went for us but we, Mills mainly, shot ourselves in the foot. No he's not the only player to blame for the defeat, a lot of other players played poorly and I tbh I think we got what we deserved. But you can't deny Mills made it difficult for us by doing something completely stupid and unnecessary. He's 24 isn't he? He is so immature, he shows a real lack of experience sometimes, for some reason.

If he hadn't given away the penalty and got sent off things could have been very different.

[Kitchandro]

On the bright side, Coventry are bottom and Forest lost it even later than us.

[Leicester Lass]

Bizarre substitutions from Nigel, particularly the timing of them. Having no strikers on the pitch for 20 minutes, it was never going to be easy to hold on. Putting Gallagher up top was just another thing that contributed to us inviting constant pressure which in the end we just couldn't deal with.

Konchesky was magnificent throughout, Wellens was woeful. Very interested to see a replay of the penalty incident, can't really comment until then, was difficult to see from the stands.

[inckley fox]

I've stood up for Mills. This is enough.

Spoke to someone recently who works with the youth team who said Schmeichel may have been worth 9-10 points already this season.

I reckon Mills has lost us the same. Reading, Birmingham, Hull. Some shocking displays early on, which I backed him up for, two red cards recently. There has to be a line.

He's played well at times but no better than the likes of St. Ledger sporadically, or Tunchev for Palace (according to Freedman), or Hobbs for us last year when he was frankly poor and was sold on. He needs the Garry Parker 1995-6 treatment: Take the captaincy off him, stick him in the reserves, maybe even list him. Walsh also responded to this in 92-93 though I doubt Mills has his character. Still, motivate him that way. I've heard him speak and he's clearly a moron so perhaps this is the only language he understands.

Pearson took Nugent off because he was exhausted. Howard isn't a lone striker. The Gallagher decision made sense. Don't blame the manager, look at the massively over-priced pile of crap Sven brought in at CB for a record breaking fee.

Make excuses all you want. Play it down all you want. We can't lose many more games. Simple as that. Mills IS a liability and I can't defend him any more. He deserves to be a scapegoat and we should treat him as such. If he hasn't the character to be a captain and a winner for the club and to win over the fans then he should remain in the reserves. We can't afford any more of this.

And yes, clearly, it was a totally unnecessary red card. He deserves absolute unbridled derision for this and perhaps that's what he needs. If he can't cope with it, then he's better off staying in the second string. You can only defend so much. He's a worthy scapegoat.

An absolute, unbridled, unequivocal liability. He defines liability. Banish him to the shadows.

[Guest Col city fan]

Well i must be in the minority then, because i fully expected us to get three points today.

Same here mate...

Poor hull team.. Good Leicester team

Fully expected three points

Mills is proving a liability.. Sent off now twice this season

And the right hand side needs improving..said it two months ago.. Danns is not good enough

[darko2k7]

Alittle disappointed about result but by no means gutted . I think its a mixture of my faith in NP to put it right and looking at the games we got coming with a confident smile. I think under sven iwould of felt more of a sense of doom and gloom.

Couple of questions tho,

I only watched the stream and my veiw of peno is he did get the ball but then made anothter movement of his leg towards attacker so yea peno for that . But if thats what he as given it for then how is it a red? As the chance had already gone surely not a professional foul. And a red would be harsh for off the ball incident as he momentum carried he through .

It that a 3 match ban now then ? would seem a bit ott looking at foul!

But overall i have a feeling of " O'well onwards and upwards " UTF

[Callabinho]

Every time were the main game on the football league show we loose....

[Danny the Fox 95]

I didn't know we had won...

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