The Quick Brown Fox Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 I agree with this, pace isn't everything for a centre back. John terry has no pace but that means he's had to work even harder on other aspects of his game to more than make up for his lack of pace. Get him in and sign one More CB Can't see John terry wanting to come here to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 Can't see John terry wanting to come here to be honest No me neither. He's not a "Pearson type of player" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvA-1pegQog&feature=relmfu Watch here at 5:38, his mistake A chap called Yann Kermorgant made a little mistake once and you lot worship the ****. It's as easy to look bad in edited youtube footage as it is to look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettsj2 Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 Can't see John terry wanting to come here to be honest He would if we got Wayne Brown back to be his Klan partner. *CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 Paying £250,000 more than an Ivory Coast international with pace and the ability to pass, whose a bit erratic. Outrageous. It's a good job Nigel knows his centre halves because where's the pace? Did Sol have the ability to pass a ball? Personally don't think he did, and I was a fan. Superb touch and control but positionally average and woeful passing, scuffed more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 Certainly got my doubts about this geezer. A £1,000,000. I don't think so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 Did Sol have the ability to pass a ball? Personally don't think he did, and I was a fan. Superb touch and control but positionally average and woeful passing, scuffed more often than not. I suppose what I mean is he wasn't a hoofer, which Maguire is supposedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Smuts Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 Did Sol have the ability to pass a ball? Personally don't think he did, and I was a fan. Superb touch and control but positionally average and woeful passing, scuffed more often than not. You'll ****ing love this massive hoofer then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbelladave Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 I suppose what I mean is he wasn't a hoofer, which Maguire is supposedly. Now it's all becoming clear, Morgan and Maguire >> hoof >> Futacs.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock2612 Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 Maguire is an NP type of player ie hungry and bags of potential and we need a new CB urgently. Should be good if deal comes off.Does anyone how close this actually is? Is it awaiting NPs return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Smuts Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 So the three people who have seen him play a handful of times at most are more qualified to comment on him than people who see him all year. Gotcha. Danny Tiatto LCFC player of the year 2004-5. A mass of idiots having one opinion doesn't make it the right opinion. I'm not saying mine is the right opinion I'm saying over the 3 games I saw him play last year he was slow, positionally inept and a massive hoofer. I have a Wednesday flatmate who rates the guy, his family are United and they can't say enough good about him. You've seen him, 3, 4 times? 3 shit games is a pretty ****ing fair sample to base a judgement on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 3 shit games is a pretty ****ing fair sample to base a judgement on. 3 out of 46 league games is fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milton Keynes Fox Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 If we pay £1,000,000 then so be it, the only reason we got 750k for bamba was because we took the offer, we wasn't holding out for a specific price because at the moment the club isn't motivated by money. Take moussa for example...you'd get a couple of 100k for him but instead we released him, we would have got 1M for bamba if needed. 1 million for a 19 year old(so much potential) and who has won sheffield united's player of the season AND young player of the season AND was in the 2011/2012 league one team of the year is a good deal in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brauny Fox Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 If we pay £1,000,000 then so be it, the only reason we got 750k for bamba was because we took the offer, we wasn't holding out for a specific price because at the moment the club isn't motivated by money. Take moussa for example...you'd get a couple of 100k for him but instead we released him, we would have got 1M for bamba if needed. 1 million for a 19 year old(so much potential) and who has won sheffield united's player of the season AND young player of the season AND was in the 2011/2012 league one team of the year is a good deal in my opinion. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 It's not just the transfer fee but the difference in wages - I would imagine Bamba would have been pushing for parity with some of the bigger earners had he stayed, yet McGuire would be be very happy with a moderate pay rise, which would be nowhere near the wages Bamba would command. If you multiply this over 3 years, the initial £1mil outlay, becomes rather cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00nie Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 so are we definitely after him then ? for 1 mill ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentFox Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 I do see what you are saying about Pace... But you have to remember that our best ever defensive pairings ( in our life time) Between Walsh, Elliott and Taggart were completly devoid of pace. I have said this before but we came up against a Very good Arsenal side managed by George Graham who said at the time " Running into Leicester's defence is like running into a brick wall." Although a lack of pace does unnerve me at times.. it CAN work. Positional sense, awareness, strength and the odd clipped ankle make up for a lack of pace.. Not that im suggesting Walshy or Elliott ever clipped anyones ankle... Totally agree with this - it was far more likely to be their knees and shins than messing about with their ankles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 £500,000 with addons rising to £1 million might be more like it. Worth a punt but not a mil straight. That's pants down time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adster Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 People who think Pace is an essential, essential attribute need to stop playing FIFA and come back to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad the Fox Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 I can remember years ago we drew brighten in one of the cups. The talk before the game was of how a young Joachim was going to tear an ageing steve foster apart with his pace. What no one had accounted for was how good a defender foster was, what he lacked in pace he had in experience and positional awareness and as a result had Joachim in his pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 20 July 2012 Share Posted 20 July 2012 Elliot and Taggart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 21 July 2012 Share Posted 21 July 2012 Elliot and Taggart? No chance I think they retired ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 21 July 2012 Share Posted 21 July 2012 Pace is the tool of a centre back who's in the wrong position to start with. I can't quite believe this post. Are you saying that pace is not important as long as the centre back get their positioning right every time? Do you really think this will happen? What about a centre back who has strong positional awareness AND possesses pace? I don't know why people are bleating on about John Terry? Have England won anything or got near to winning anything for decades? Even Chelsea's Champions league winning team was one without Terry playing in it. I'm not saying Terry isnt a good defender, he is, but he'd be better if he was quicker. As would all players. Again, you simply make a glib comment to back up what the manager is possibly going to do. If Pearson wants to sign Harry Maguire, Babs will substantiate this by suggesting that pace is not an important attribute of a centre back. Positional awareness is crucial, but possessing both mental and physical speed make the best players. You watch the goals we concede this season.. They will be ones where Morgan/St Ledger/ Maguire? get caught in a one on one situation with a nippy striker. Most probably one who gets onto the end of low crosses before our centre backs do. Morgan looks a good prospect for this City team. But a lack of speed IS his Achilles heel. He needs another quicker centre back beside him who can compensate for this. Two slower defenders and we may have more of a problem. And for those people citing the centre back pairing of Walsh and Elliott as an example, I loved them.. But don't underestimate the help they had by a one Mr Lennon playing directly in front of them and shielding them time after time after time. City have no such player, which renders the back five under direct attack, a real problem last season. I'd be happier with a slower centre back pairing if they had a defensive midfielder playing directly in front of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 21 July 2012 Share Posted 21 July 2012 I can't quite believe this post. Are you saying that pace is not important as long as the centre back get their positioning right every time? Do you really think this will happen? What about a centre back who has strong positional awareness AND possesses pace? I don't know why people are bleating on about John Terry? Have England won anything or got near to winning anything for decades? Even Chelsea's Champions league winning team was one without Terry playing in it. I'm not saying Terry isnt a good defender, he is, but he'd be better if he was quicker. As would all players. Again, you simply make a glib comment to back up what the manager is possibly going to do. If Pearson wants to sign Harry Maguire, Babs will substantiate this by suggesting that pace is not an important attribute of a centre back. Positional awareness is crucial, but possessing both mental and physical speed make the best players. You watch the goals we concede this season.. They will be ones where Morgan/St Ledger/ Maguire? get caught in a one on one situation with a nippy striker. Most probably one who gets onto the end of low crosses before our centre backs do. Morgan looks a good prospect for this City team. But a lack of speed IS his Achilles heel. He needs another quicker centre back beside him who can compensate for this. Two slower defenders and we may have more of a problem. And for those people citing the centre back pairing of Walsh and Elliott as an example, I loved them.. But don't underestimate the help they had by a one Mr Lennon playing directly in front of them and shielding them time after time after time. City have no such player, which renders the back five under direct attack, a real problem last season. I'd be happier with a slower centre back pairing if they had a defensive midfielder playing directly in front of them. I think you took it a bit too seriously Col... lighten up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarles Barkley Posted 21 July 2012 Share Posted 21 July 2012 No chance I think they retired ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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