Nuneaton Away

[Father Ted]

There is that yeah. Being too muscley does slow you down a bit aswell.

Hmmm... not in all ways, it could potentially make you faster as the leg muscles become more explosive, but the extra timber could slow him down. His flexibility and technique are the ones most likely to suffer. I recently seen a video on exercises that Micah Richards does to improve agility as he felt that with his increase in muscle, his game began to suffer.

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

Waghorn doesn't help himself with his obsession to find the top corner.

That usually results in the ball, being thrown back onto the pitch.

[TrentFox]

There is that yeah. Being too muscley does slow you down a bit aswell.

Like the 100m men's final sprinters, you mean ?

[Jace]

There is that yeah. Being too muscley does slow you down a bit aswell.

[Leicesterpool]

Anybody who went tonight give some brief player ratings?

Just seen the pictures and Futacs is an absolute tank!

I also have a feeling that Waggy could be on his way...

I wish that was true but I can't see that happening he's one of pearsons favourites for some reason.

[Mark_w]

I wish that was true but I can't see that happening he's one of pearsons favourites for some reason.

Maybe it's that whole '1 goal in every 3.5 matches' under Pearson thing.

[MGLCFC]

I think Waghorn will ask for a move when he realises he's 5th choice and may not even make the bench!

[Happy Fox]

Waghorn needs game time we aren't going to offer him that here imo, best thing to do is loan him out so he can recapture the form he was on in his first season here on loan, cannot see him ahead of the likes of Vardy, Nugent, Futacs and Beckford.

[Mark_w]

Waghorn needs game time we aren't going to offer him that here imo, best thing to do is loan him out so he can recapture the form he was on in his first season here on loan, cannot see him ahead of the likes of Vardy, Nugent, Futacs and Beckford.

There's every chance that Vardy will flop he has never played at this level, rumours persist that Beckford could be on his way, if both of those things happen then our only decent strikers are Futacs (Not a goalscorer) and Nugent, surely to play it safe we should be keeping the striker we know that Pearson can get the best out of. Then if he isn't getting into the team come January we can send him out on loan. But it wouldn't be very sensible to get rid of him when we're placing our hopes on a 25 year old who we've just brought in from Fleetwood, not saying he'll do badly, I think he'll be great, but I honestly think, not just being biased, that we'd be foolish to send him out on loan before we've seen Vardy for a decent period of time.

[Happy Fox]

There's every chance that Vardy will flop he has never played at this level, rumours persist that Beckford could be on his way, if both of those things happen then our only decent strikers are Futacs (Not a goalscorer) and Nugent, surely to play it safe we should be keeping the striker we know that Pearson can get the best out of. Then if he isn't getting into the team come January we can send him out on loan. But it wouldn't be very sensible to get rid of him when we're placing our hopes on a 25 year old who we've just brought in from Fleetwood, not saying he'll do badly, I think he'll be great, but I honestly think, not just being biased, that we'd be foolish to send him out on loan before we've seen Vardy for a decent period of time.

Forgot about Schlupp he is ahead of Waghorn imo so sending him out on loan isn't the end of the world it may do him the world of good and when he comes back he may be revitalised instead of stagnating here because I cannot see him in the first team picture atm.

[Mark_w]

Forgot about Schlupp he is ahead of Waghorn imo so sending him out on loan isn't the end of the world

Schlupp who has scored two goals at this level and never had a season of first-team football, at this level, or at any level in fact. Should be ahead of Waghorn who had, lets not forget, people raving about him after his first season of Championship football, where he scored 12 goals in his first year of football (More than Beckford ). You think that Schlupp should be ahead of Waghorn, and you also think Waghorn needs a spell on loan to develop more than Jeff?

[Fox92]

Other way around imo. Schlupp looks to be a good prospect, but sending him out on loan for a while won't do him, or the club, any harm. He would learn from it, no doubt. He had a great spell at Brentford the other year, which enhanced him as a player. Waghorn is still young, and probably still developing, and a loan spell wouldn't do him any harm either, provided it was at Championship level though.

[lovelcfc]

Even when waghorn was at his best I always thought people overated him he's a good player but not on the same level as becks

[marty78]

Schlupp who has scored two goals at this level and never had a season of first-team football, at this level, or at any level in fact. Should be ahead of Waghorn who had, lets not forget, people raving about him after his first season of Championship football, where he scored 12 goals in his first year of football (More than Beckford ). You think that Schlupp should be ahead of Waghorn, and you also think Waghorn needs a spell on loan to develop more than Jeff?

I agree as the only striker without question marks against him is Nugent, for me anyway. The others are new signings or players who were disappointing last season (whatever the reason) and we also have Schlupp who is young and unproven. I agree with sending Schlupp on loan rather than Waghorn, if that is what you meant.

There is no need reason to use other strikers scoring records from a couple of season ago as a stick with which to beat Beckford though. Even if it was slightly tongue in cheek and not your intention (I am sure it wasn't). He is still one of ours don't forget.

[Leicesterpool]

Beckford has been improving his game over the summer for Leicester, maybe he's starting to like the place or trying to impress Leeds to sign him!

[MattyFromLE]

Schlupp who has scored two goals at this level and never had a season of first-team football, at this level, or at any level in fact. Should be ahead of Waghorn who had, lets not forget, people raving about him after his first season of Championship football, where he scored 12 goals in his first year of football (More than Beckford ). You think that Schlupp should be ahead of Waghorn, and you also think Waghorn needs a spell on loan to develop more than Jeff?

I'd kinda agree with this analysis. Except, pre-season form from what I have personally seen - I think Schlupp has started the strongest. Realistically, both need game time, and experience.

[Mark_w]

I agree as the only striker without question marks against him is Nugent, for me anyway. The others are new signings or players who were disappointing last season (whatever the reason) and we also have Schlupp who is young and unproven. I agree with sending Schlupp on loan rather than Waghorn, if that is what you meant.

There is no need reason to use other strikers scoring records from a couple of season ago as a stick with which to beat Beckford though. Even if it was slightly tongue in cheek and not your intention (I am sure it wasn't). He is still one of ours don't forget.

I was using it more in defense of Waghorn to be honest, they all like to have a go at Waghorn when in actuality from what we've seen in a Leicester shirt Beckford really isn't head and shoulders above him. I'd still have Beckford in ahead of Waggy (As third choice) and see if Beckford can do anything to prove he's worth the money he is on though.

I do like Beckford, he does actually seem like a positive influence around the place, similar to Waggy (Another reason I wouldn't be sending him out on loan), I just wasn't impressed enough with his performances to say he should be our top earner and I didn't think he was value for money. It wasn't my intention to come across as thinking he's a bad player because I don't, I think he'll do a decent job, I just can't understand what he has done to give a lot of people such faith in him. Hopefully he'll go out and prove to be our best striker next year, I just wouldn't be surprised if he didn't.

[marty78]

I was using it more in defense of Waghorn to be honest, they all like to have a go at Waghorn when in actuality from what we've seen in a Leicester shirt Beckford really isn't head and shoulders above him. I'd still have Beckford in ahead of Waggy (As third choice) and see if Beckford can do anything to prove he's worth the money he is on though.

Yeah I know you were mate and I agree with you on the above.

[thybluefox]

I'd kinda agree with this analysis. Except, pre-season form from what I have personally seen - I think Schlupp has started the strongest. Realistically, both need game time, and experience.

Matty - do some work.

People who went to Nuneaton, how's Futacs' finishing? Everything I've read about him seems to suggest he more often than not shanks it completely.

And IMO Schlupp has more potential than Waghorn, and it's for that reason I stick him ahead of Waggy in the pecking order.

[Mark_w]

Matty - do some work.

People who went to Nuneaton, how's Futacs' finishing? Everything I've read about him seems to suggest he more often than not shanks it completely.

And IMO Schlupp has more potential than Waghorn, and it's for that reason I stick him ahead of Waggy in the pecking order.

Well when Waghorn was his age he was scoring 12 goals in the Championship, Jeff needs to start showing that potential soon, best way to do that is to send him to a lower end Championship side with a recall option and let him prove it. Waghorn we know under this manager can do well at this level.

[MGLCFC]

Well when Waghorn was his age he was scoring 12 goals in the Championship, Jeff needs to start showing that potential soon, best way to do that is to send him to a lower end Championship side with a recall option and let him prove it. Waghorn we know under this manager can do well at this level.

That was two seasons ago - Waghorn for me will be at best 5th choice - he's young and won't want to be a bit part player. Will leave on deadline day is my prediction.

[Corky]

I wish that was true but I can't see that happening he's one of pearsons favourites for some reason.

Did Pearson sign him permanently for us then?

[Deucalion]

For me, Schlupp is far more composed in front of goal than Waghorn.

Waghorn seems to be rushing and on the edge of his ability in front of goal, while Schlupp seems calm and in control.

I hope Waghorn is able to fulfil his early promise but I would be happier with Schlupp starting up front than Waghorn at the moment.

[Mark_w]

That was two seasons ago - Waghorn for me will be at best 5th choice - he's young and won't want to be a bit part player. Will leave on deadline day is my prediction.

Are we not still judging Beckford on what he did for another club two seasons ago?

How about Mills was he not judged by many of our fans on what he'd done two seasons ago?

When Tunchev was around we were still judging him on his performances two years previous.

A twenty-two year old does not just lose it, he has been misused in terms of the position he played and has had injury issues, but that doesn't mean he's suddenly a bad player. He has to be a better option than Schlupp for me because he has proved himself at this level, we need to give Jeff an opportunity to do that at this level, it isn't going to come here right now so why not let him spend a year at somewhere like Barnsley or Bristol City and give him the opportunity to actually prove he's any better than Waghorn?

[GianEmmo Zola]

Waghorn struggled in the game yesterday, but he is serioualy lacking match time and confidence. Had it all took out of him for one reason and another. But i think its too late for him to find his best form here, with us having nugent,vardy, beckford, schlupp and futacs all ahead of him in the pecking order. On beckford, he seems like hes working harder and really wants to be here. All this speculation of him leaving would nige be giving him games if he was leaving? Wouldnt have thought so. He was reacting with the fans last night, laughing and smiling at us. Seemed to be instant friends with knockaert! Promising times and hopefully/finally a great season for the foxes.