dedlock Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 JB is right to draw attention to the ref. Whether we like it or not luck plays apart in the 'beautiful game'. We didn't deserve success last season, nor did we deserve the erratic performances by officials. They say the luck evens out over the season.After umpteen years following City I am struggling to recall when we had so many poor decisions against with few in our favour.I truly hope this season Refs will raise few hackles in our matches.
Bryn Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 I also thought the referee had a good game, certainly one of the best I've seen at this level.
fleckneymike Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 Quite if they were so awful and we're so good how come we did little of note in the 1st half / until we scored. Plenty of teams will play like Peterboro away from home we've done it ourselves on many occasions doesn't make them poor all over the pitch, maybe they had little to offer up front but they were better at not giving the ball away or misplacing passes than we were first half when I thought we looked fairly poor in terms of teamwork and producing anything worth while. There's little point in slagging teams off for being defensive we need to be good enough to break them down early on then I doubt you'd see the same degree of negative play. I seem to remember getting accused of similar stuff when we were in the PL under MON, negative, long ball, hard men was our reputation and somewhat unfair to say the least. I thought Peterborough set up quite well, it took us 45 minutes to arrive at a solution. We seldom threatened in the first half and it took a set piece to break them.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 Quite if they were so awful and we're so good how come we did little of note in the 1st half / until we scored. Plenty of teams will play like Peterboro away from home we've done it ourselves on many occasions doesn't make them poor all over the pitch, maybe they had little to offer up front but they were better at not giving the ball away or misplacing passes than we were first half when I thought we looked fairly poor in terms of teamwork and producing anything worth while. There's little point in slagging teams off for being defensive we need to be good enough to break them down early on then I doubt you'd see the same degree of negative play. I seem to remember getting accused of similar stuff when we were in the PL under MON, negative, long ball, hard men was our reputation and somewhat unfair to say the least. Glad I wasn't the only 1 seeing it that way Davie did think we were very good 2nd half though.
davieG Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 Glad I wasn't the only 1 seeing it that way Davie did think we were very good 2nd half though. Goals bring confidence = brings better team work = faster play = progress always provided you don't sit back and think the jobs done
Corky Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 Always good to start with a win, and a clean sheet included, so they are the main positives to take away. The first half was not entertaining, Peterborough had more of the ball whilst we seemed to be happy to let them have it without doing a lot with it ourselves. Second half was much improved, the goal gave us confidence and we had a five-minute spell straight after where four or five shots came about. The second goal was a beauty, excellent work by Vardy and a brilliant finish by King. Peterborough were at their most threatening at 0-2 down yet we could've added to our score. So, plenty to work on, it's not perfect (and I didn't expect it to be). In many ways it's the right sort of result, nothing to get carried away with and also little to be despondent about. The stand-outs for me were the defence, which was solid as a unit, Drinkwater who kept the ball moving nicely and King, who came on, scored a fine goal and put himself about more than he had previously done. Onwards and upwards
marbelladave Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 Dyer is this, Knockaert is that, Wellens is crap, Gallagher and Waghorn will be sold. One bloke even talks about 4-4-2 as if it is an unorthodox formation which no team has ever been successful with. I think some people are being a little over analytical considering we have played one league game and still have not seen all of our players feature. It's not one game...... It's 31 games since the second coming of NFP and although we have some new players, we still have a lot of issues. Anyone who thinks yesterdays performance will get us promoted are delusional. Credit where it is due. A good three points. Two goals , none conceded ! What more do you want ? Looking forward to our visit to the smoke.... Game on!!! Not much, just for us to play a bit better...... Charlton is nice and easy for me but I doubt the game will be. Charlton came close to seeing off Birmingham yesterday, will be a real test for us.......
Corky Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 It's not one game...... It's 31 games since the second coming of NFP and although we have some new players, we still have a lot of issues. Anyone who thinks yesterdays performance will get us promoted are delusional. I doubt anyone does think we'll get promoted based on one game. Most will judge us after several.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 Always good to start with a win, and a clean sheet included, so they are the main positives to take away. The first half was not entertaining, Peterborough had more of the ball whilst we seemed to be happy to let them have it without doing a lot with it ourselves. Second half was much improved, the goal gave us confidence and we had a five-minute spell straight after where four or five shots came about. The second goal was a beauty, excellent work by Vardy and a brilliant finish by King. Peterborough were at their most threatening at 0-2 down yet we could've added to our score. So, plenty to work on, it's not perfect (and I didn't expect it to be). In many ways it's the right sort of result, nothing to get carried away with and also little to be despondent about. The stand-outs for me were the defence, which was solid as a unit, Drinkwater who kept the ball moving nicely and King, who came on, scored a fine goal and put himself about more than he had previously done. Onwards and upwards pretty much how I saw it Corky, kingy played like someone who wants their place! There will always be chances n slight gaffs in a defence but overall v solid line n De Laet looks more solid than pelts albeit one game! Definitely more positives to build on though
marty78 Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 It's not one game...... It's 31 games since the second coming of NFP and although we have some new players, we still have a lot of issues. Anyone who thinks yesterdays performance will get us promoted are delusional. Don't quite know why you put that bold part in reply to me. So we have new players but we still have a lot of issues based on one performance without having seen all of them play? How many new players should we sign in pre-season to allow the team to be judged on the season they are playing rather than the one before they joined?
iamafox Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 Went to the game yesterday, (1st time as a season ticket holder) very pleased with the 3 points. Good to see Big Wes get his 1st goal for us with an unstoppable header and also a great first-time strike by Kingy. Let's build on this win and get another good result on Tuesday.
ian the fox Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 Ok we werent outplayed in the first half , but the Posh showed a competitive edge enough to leave the final outcome "unclear" at half time Id say
Guest Col city fan Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 :scarf: :scarf: :scarf: :scarf: Blimey I thought blueredsweds was back!
5waller5 Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 I doubt anyone does think we'll get promoted based on one game. Most will judge us after several. It changed my mind completely .... I thought we were great. I'd be very confident of promotion if we played like that every week. Lots of reasons to be positive!!
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 19 August 2012 Posted 19 August 2012 Blimey I thought blueredsweds was back! i think Wymesy must be in love or something . . . . . . . . . . .
marbelladave Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 Don't quite know why you put that bold part in reply to me. So we have new players but we still have a lot of issues based on one performance without having seen all of them play? How many new players should we sign in pre-season to allow the team to be judged on the season they are playing rather than the one before they joined? Errr, you keep going on about 1 game but it's not one game its 31. We may have loads of new players but we are still playing the same conservative, unadventurous game we played last season. The first half on saturday was as poor as anything I have seen under NFP, a decent side would have ripped us to pieces.
Reynard Bleu Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 Peterborough stuck to a well thought out plan in the first half, their guy who played just in front of the back four picked of most of our attacks, although they didnt offer a huge attacking threat.. 2nd half the Wes's goal changed the shape of the game, more space and our confidence grew. Last season we may have drawn this one, or even lost it late on. Pleased to see we stuck at it. Results, results, results. All that matters if we want promotion.
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 I've said many times, its not always about the performance. You need to find a way in this league to grind out results and win ugly. I believe we have a squad this year that can do that plus show more backbone and hard graft
MattyFromLE Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 Errr, you keep going on about 1 game but it's not one game its 31. We may have loads of new players but we are still playing the same conservative, unadventurous game we played last season. The first half on saturday was as poor as anything I have seen under NFP, a decent side would have ripped us to pieces. Do you not think that maybe we were trying not to play into Peterborough's hands? We stood off the ball quite a lot, and waited for them to make a mistake - like NP said we had to be patient. Had we have let them pass it around the back 4 and pressed too hard, they would have lumped it into the gap that we would have created for them. It wasn't brilliant to watch admittedly, but tactically I think we got it spot on in the first half, as showed by the fact we won 2-0 at a canter and a good clean sheet with 5/6 really promising performances - new and old players.
Dr The Singh Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 most important thing is that we won. This early in the season the performances maybe hit and miss, we need to build some momentum and increase our confidence. The next 2 matches will give us a better idea on how good we are.
Babylon Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 Errr, you keep going on about 1 game but it's not one game its 31. We may have loads of new players but we are still playing the same conservative, unadventurous game we played last season. The first half on saturday was as poor as anything I have seen under NFP, a decent side would have ripped us to pieces. I'm sorry but do you not think you are going completely over the top? Peterborough don't really have a major problem scoring goals, for instance last season they scored 3 goals less than Cardiff away from home and at home outscored all but two teams in the whole division. They are a good attacking team and if we were as bad as you are making out we'd have been in trouble. We were average first half, no more no less. To suggest that was one of the worst first half performances under NP is just ridiculous. We looked comfortable throughout, yes they had plenty of ball in their own half, but as soon as they came anywhere near us we won the ball back or they had nowhere to go and passed it out of play. We tried to get forward quickly, but didn't have the support for it and we ended up giving it away too quickly. That was our major problem and very little else. Second half that problem was sorted from the off and we changed our plan and started pressing them in their own half also. From then on to me the result never looked in doubt and we were comfortably on top. If you thought the second half was cautious and unadventurous then frankly I doubt think you are every going to be happy. The negativity surrounding your posts I find utterly baffling. How people can walk away from that game with seemingly more negatives than positives I really don't know.
Zingari Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 most important thing is that we won. This early in the season the performances maybe hit and miss, we need to build some momentum and increase our confidence. The next 2 matches will give us a better idea on how good we are. That's quite right , win and win ugly if necessary . It's pretty much like having the same attitude as when trying to get sex
indierich06 Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 Errr, you keep going on about 1 game but it's not one game its 31. We may have loads of new players but we are still playing the same conservative, unadventurous game we played last season. The first half on saturday was as poor as anything I have seen under NFP, a decent side would have ripped us to pieces. How does anything we did last season have any bearing at all on what we do this season? This is different team now and last season is precisely that - last season. It has nothing to do with this season, we've got a clean slate now and you can see the improvement in fitness, work-rate and attitude from the players when compared to the start of last season, there's no swagger there any more - there's just hard work which is what we all want to see. There were 8 players who played on Saturday who were not in the team at the start of last season, 4 of which were brought in over the summer. You can't judge this side by last season's performances - it's a different team. You've obviously got an axe to grind or you've got some kind of vendetta against NP, but there was very little wrong with the performance on Saturday. The first half wasn't fantastic but our energy and work off the ball restricted Peterborough to keeping posession via sideways passing in their defence. They created nothing because we didn't let them. I'm not naive enough to believe we won't have to be better than that against better opposition, but you can only beat what's in front of you and as we saw so often last season, we up our game against the better teams. Our main problem last season was seeing off weaker teams like Peterborough - Saturday's game looks to be an improvement in that department.
marbelladave Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 Do you not think that maybe we were trying not to play into Peterborough's hands? We stood off the ball quite a lot, and waited for them to make a mistake - like NP said we had to be patient. Had we have let them pass it around the back 4 and pressed too hard, they would have lumped it into the gap that we would have created for them. It wasn't brilliant to watch admittedly, but tactically I think we got it spot on in the first half, as showed by the fact we won 2-0 at a canter and a good clean sheet with 5/6 really promising performances - new and old players. Whilst there may be some truth in what you say, it still struck me as a dour, conservative performance typical of City under NFP this time around. I am not completely 'gung ho' and had no problem with the way we set up initially but when the limit of 'Boro's ambitions became clear we really needed to be more expansive, but the inflexibility of our game plan did not appear to allow that. It worked out well enough against a pretty weak 'Boro side but I thought we conceded far too much first half and a better side would have taken advantage and punished us.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.