Form is temporary...

[fleckneymike]

Yes I go to the games and watch them. If you didn't judge him so blindly you'd see more than just the miss, he did put in a good performance, controlled the ball well and whilst not being great he did contribute more than Nugent. I never said he was great or even that good, but to say he was woeful is ridiculous.

Given your position on our manager in the past I'd suggest that most people would likely suspect that if you go to the matches, you obviously don't have a great grasp of what's happening. Maybe not the best idea to question other people's judgement when you're prone to getting such things embarrassingly wrong.

He did **** all at Brum too. Both 'spurned' chances came when he had to play on the 'left' side of a strike pairing, as I've said previously he's much better on the right side of a front two BUT so is Nugent.

I'm not blaming Waghorn for this but Nugent is not very good when part of a front two, he's even worse when played next to another 'busy' striker. Personally I prefer Nugent when he has to be more disciplined and play a lone role up front.

Nugent is our 'best' striker but he is grossly overpaid.

[Happy Fox]

Well at least he knows he isn't a prolific striker

http://www.lcfc.com/news/article/261012-waggy-togetherness-is-driving-us-447839.aspx?pageView=full#anchored

But the popular Geordie takes a typically optimistic view to his form in front of goal and, if selected, will be plugging away as he always does against the Eagles on Saturday.

“It would be nice to get that first goal, hopefully it’ll come Saturday, but you know what I’m like, I’ll keep trying and give it 100 per cent in every game,†he said.

“I always think the next chance will go in. It hasn’t yet but I don’t mind that. I’m not one of these players that has ever been prolific. I’d love to be, but I’m not and I know that if I don’t score there are players like David Nugent or Andy King that will.

“As long as the team wins, I don’t mind, but I’m confident the goals will come if I keep getting the chances.â€

[Manwell Pablo]

Well at least he knows he isn't a prolific striker

http://www.lcfc.com/...w=full#anchored

But the popular Geordie takes a typically optimistic view to his form in front of goal and, if selected, will be plugging away as he always does against the Eagles on Saturday.

“It would be nice to get that first goal, hopefully it’ll come Saturday, but you know what I’m like, I’ll keep trying and give it 100 per cent in every game,†he said.

“I always think the next chance will go in. It hasn’t yet but I don’t mind that. I’m not one of these players that has ever been prolific. I’d love to be, but I’m not and I know that if I don’t score there are players like David Nugent or Andy King that will.

“As long as the team wins, I don’t mind, but I’m confident the goals will come if I keep getting the chances.â€

Fair play to him, if nothing else at least he's got the right attitude.

[Daggers]

Fair play to him, if nothing else at least he's got the right attitude.

If I got picked I'd have a Champions League winner's attitude. I'd still be shit on the pitch.

[fleckneymike]

If I got picked I'd have a Champions League winner's attitude. I'd still be shit on the pitch.

Martyn, is that you?

[5waller5]

Yes I go to the games and watch them. If you didn't judge him so blindly you'd see more than just the miss, he did put in a decent performance, controlled the ball well and whilst not being great he did contribute more than Nugent. I never said he was great or even that good, but to say he was woeful is ridiculous.

Given your position on our manager in the past I'd suggest that most people would likely suspect that if you go to the matches, you obviously don't have a great grasp of what's happening. Maybe not the best idea to question other people's judgement when you're prone to getting such things embarrassingly wrong.

Yes I'll stop having an opinion on football because I wasn't persons biggest fan when he'd shown me no reason to be. I'm extremely glad he's come good.... And hope your blind faith in Waghorn will be repaid too ..... In the meantime you enjoy the moral high ground.

[Guest Col city fan]

Yes I'll stop having an opinion on football because I wasn't persons biggest fan when he'd shown me no reason to be. I'm extremely glad he's come good.... And hope your blind faith in Waghorn will be repaid too ..... In the meantime you enjoy the moral high ground.

I think Marks point may have been that you seem 'sure' of stuff very quickly. You were pretty sure that Pearson's team wasn't going anywhere, or at least you seemed it. Now you seem pretty sure that Waghorn won't gain some form.

Mark is right IMO. Give the lad a few games at least, then judge. It could be that the ace young player we saw in Pearsons first term has gone and will never come back. Alternatively, it could be that a good run in the side is exactly what he needs? Wait and see?

[i luv u foxes]

would love him to good. I think overall he is better than vardy just needs to start showing but would love him to come good

[Matt]

Waghorn is playing well, very well, but he isn't scoring goals, something that is a major problem for us at the moment is killing games off, scoring the goals to win games, making chance after chance after chance, with Nugent being our only real threat striker wise.

We are toothless up front, I'm not slagging Waghorn off so much, I'm not saying he should be dropped (Just yet) because like I say he is playing brilliant, but I must ask the question how long will 'playing brilliant' keep him in the team without him scoring.

I think the only thing that is keeping Waghorn in the team is the fact like I say Nugent is our only strike threat, the rest of our strikers are as poor infront of goal as Waghorn is, atleast Waghorn is playing well without scoring.

[Mark_w]

Waghorn is playing well, very well, but he isn't scoring goals, something that is a major problem for us at the moment is killing games off, scoring the goals to win games, making chance after chance after chance, with Nugent being our only real threat striker wise.

We are toothless up front, I'm not slagging Waghorn off so much, I'm not saying he should be dropped (Just yet) because like I say he is playing brilliant, but I must ask the question how long will 'playing brilliant' keep him in the team without him scoring.

I think the only thing that is keeping Waghorn in the team is the fact like I say Nugent is our only strike threat, the rest of our strikers are as poor infront of goal as Waghorn is, atleast Waghorn is playing well without scoring.

We wouldn't have gotten the first goal without Waghorn, think that should be at least pointed out.

I honestly can't believe we're sat here talking about not taking enough of our opportunities when we've scored two goals, had one cleared off the line, had Camp pull off a brilliant save and have eventually lost two points because of a dodgy penalty decision. I don't think we should be worrying about dropping players at all after today, it's just been one of those days when we've been better than the opposition, but somehow we haven't got the three points.

[adam95581]

I agree with the above post but

We wouldn't have gotten the first goal without Waghorn, think that should be at least pointed out.

I honestly can't believe we're sat here talking about not taking enough of our opportunities when we've scored two goals, had one cleared off the line, had Camp pull off a brilliant save and have eventually lost two points because of a dodgy penalty decision. I don't think we should be worrying about dropping players at all after today, it's just been one of those days when we've been better than the opposition, but somehow we haven't got the three points.

I think Waghorn was class today and I did notice that he was pivotal in the first goal. However we do seem to be having one of those days way too regularly.

[MooseBreath]

He was crap today. I can't believe people are defending him. Sure he tried hard but he missed several brilliant chances which ultimately cost us three points. Talk theoretically as much as you like, the fact is he is a liability up front and needs to be replaced if we're serious about promotion. We can't go on with him up front

[indierich06]

He was crap today. I can't believe people are defending him. Sure he tried hard but he missed several brilliant chances which ultimately cost us three points. Talk theoretically as much as you like, the fact is he is a liability up front and needs to be replaced if we're serious about promotion. We can't go on with him up front

Are you joking? He had a great game today - that header was fantastic and was only kept out by a fantastic save from Camp, he should have had another. Great work to set up Dyer for the first goal too.

The ref cost us three points today, not Waghorn.

[Matt]

He was crap today. I can't believe people are defending him. Sure he tried hard but he missed several brilliant chances which ultimately cost us three points. Talk theoretically as much as you like, the fact is he is a liability up front and needs to be replaced if we're serious about promotion. We can't go on with him up front

TBH though he is probably our 2nd best striker - That itself tells you all you need to know about our strikers.

Nugent is streets ahead of any of our strikers and Waghorn isn't scoring but playing quite well, which is more than can be said about our other strikers - That doesn't excuse him, his job is to score and he isn't but alteast he is playing well about like I said probably our 2nd best choice we have at this moment.

Hopefully Waghorn pulls his finger out and converts some of the 'easy', guilt edged chances he makes and has or we replace Waghorn with a goalscorer.

Because as much as he is our '2nd best choice' as I put it, it isn't good enough if he doesn't start scoring, as well as he is playing it you have to ask the question how long can we go on saying 'Ah he hasn't scored but he played well', unfortunately it isn't going to win us games or move us forward.

[kingfox]

He was crap today. I can't believe people are defending him. Sure he tried hard but he missed several brilliant chances which ultimately cost us three points. Talk theoretically as much as you like, the fact is he is a liability up front and needs to be replaced if we're serious about promotion. We can't go on with him up front

Don't normally like Waghorn and yes goals win games, and yes he should of scored.

But it was Waghorn's best performance in about two years, he was flaming excellent and I was really pleased for him.

But he really needs to take his chances, but so does Knockaert as well they spent ages on the ball when they should of got their shots off quicker.

[Matt]

Don't normally like Waghorn and yes goals win games, and yes he should of scored.

But it was Waghorn's best performance in about two years, he was flaming excellent and I was really pleased for him.

But he really needs to take his chances, but so does Knockaert as well they spent ages on the ball when they should of got their shots off quicker.

Felt he was abit selfish a few times today, noticed it in other games aswell, when he gets in the box he won't pass most of the time, even when someone is free and they could have a better shot.

[Mark_w]

Are you joking? He had a great game today - that header was fantastic and was only kept out by a fantastic save from Camp, he should have had another. Great work to set up Dyer for the first goal too.

The ref cost us three points today, not Waghorn.

Spot on.

[5waller5]

I actually feel sorry for Waggy now ..... He's got a great attitude - a real tryer and he certainly didn't hide today. He tried his very best and at times looked half decent.

BUT.

I'm afraid there is a big but ..... he looks less likely to score a goal than Kasper. He simply has no composure in front of goal. His nerves have shot it and he just doesn't look like a striker.

If we keep playing with him then we are throwing away our chances of promotion - because whilst he was unlucky, the ref was awful, the side dominated, we just didn't win because we didn't hit the back of the net with the chances that fall to him.

We can't finish sides off without that - we keep them in the game for the ref or a defender to make an error and cost us points.

[Guest Col city fan]

I actually feel sorry for Waggy now ..... He's got a great attitude - a real tryer and he certainly didn't hide today. He tried his very best and at times looked half decent.

BUT.

I'm afraid there is a big but ..... he looks less likely to score a goal than Kasper. He simply has no composure in front of goal. His nerves have shot it and he just doesn't look like a striker.

If we keep playing with him then we are throwing away our chances of promotion - because whilst he was unlucky, the ref was awful, the side dominated, we just didn't win because we didn't hit the back of the net with the chances that fall to him.

We can't finish sides off without that - we keep them in the game for the ref or a defender to make an error and cost us points.

I'm surprised even the most ardent of fans didn't see that game as two points lost...

[Mark_w]

I'm surprised even the most ardent of fans didn't see that game as two points lost...

Everyone saw the game as two points lost, the only difference in opinion is over why we lost them.

[Guest Col city fan]

Everyone saw the game as two points lost, the only difference in opinion is over why we lost them.

Which is why you are over-relying on one player..

[Mark_w]

Which is why you are over-relying on one player..

I don't think you mean over-relying. I think you've just had a few too many.

[stillwater]

Noticed that while Waghorn continues to fire blanks, our on loan striker has just boosted Huddersfileds chances of promotion by scoring the winner for them today.

Think JB would have netted a couple of times for us today if he had been in Waghorns place.

[Finnegan]

Spot on.

Not really. He looked like a crap finisher and was a crap finisher. Do you realise how many chances we had today and how many were on target, just tame?

The ref gave a penalty that wasn't but we should have been out of sight long before then.

I'm not exclusively blaming Waghorn. Nugent, Knockaert, Dyer all missed tidy chances and it's evident our finishing right across the team is poor at the moment. Bolton was another example.

But I do get immensely frustrated with the people who feel that the only way to combat the "boo boys" and blind critics is to take an equally absurd view the other way. Waghorn is a poor forward, he isn't a goalscorer and he's not given us any real sign that he'll ever be particularly lethal at this level. Again, today, he was the main offender when it came to butchering opportunities in the final quarter.

That's not to say his overall performance was poor, it clearly wasn't, he was much better today with some good running, some strong holding of the ball and a superb lay off to Dyer for the opener. But what's wrong with being reasonable and neutral when it comes to evaluating our players? You're a smart enough guy yet yourself and others seem ferociously determined to entrench yourself in and defend Pearson, Waghorn and others despite glaringly obvious flaws because you seem to feel that if you don't you're letting the mouth-breathers win.

Just ignore the morons, block them out, and adopt a bit of rationality. Because, seriously, Waghorn was worth little more than a "6" today and despite clear signs of improvement I seriously don't see us pushing for a top three position unless we bring in a better player to back up Nugent.

[Guest Col city fan]

I don't think you mean over-relying. I think you've just had a few too many.

Font try to pit wirds in my mouth!

I'm dead sooober me....