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Ahhh everything I expected and more.

They're mostly generated by hangover-fuelled rage. Maybe I was being a bit harsh on the owners - SGE was a massive coup and in his first season I genuinely believed that we'd achieve big things under him, but his madcap transfer window where he seemingly just signed any player he could without really building a team, well that's what got him sacked in the end. We'll be paying for that summer of excess for years now, but I can understand the owners wanting to throw a load of money at it for one big shot at the big time. But the problem with flying too close to the sun is that there's a long way to fall if you get burnt.

Nice analogy Rich

:thumbup:

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Quite frankly we deserve some success imo and I guess the overall frustration that in a piss poor league that it is this season we have perhaps wasted our best chance of getting automatic promotion. We can still make the playoffs.

NP despite spending quite a lot of money maybe not on Sven's level but still within top 3 spending in this division has not really improved us point position compared to last season we had 56 points a 3 point gap is nothing to be proud about!, I agree he bought some decent young players in but that is about it really if we don't finish in the playoffs or for that matter do but don't get promotion he will most likely be gone.

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Quite frankly we deserve some success imo and I guess the overall frustration that in a piss poor league that it is this season we have perhaps wasted our best chance of getting automatic promotion. We can still make the playoffs.

NP despite spending quite a lot of money maybe not on Sven's level but still within top 3 spending in this division has not really improved us point position compared to last season we had 56 points a 3 point gap is nothing to be proud about!, I agree he bought some decent young players in but that is about it really if we don't finish in the playoffs or for that matter do but don't get promotion he will most likely be gone.

Why?
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Ahhh everything I expected and more.

They're mostly generated by hangover-fuelled rage. Maybe I was being a bit harsh on the owners - SGE was a massive coup and in his first season I genuinely believed that we'd achieve big things under him, but his madcap transfer window where he seemingly just signed any player he could without really building a team, well that's what got him sacked in the end. We'll be paying for that summer of excess for years now, but I can understand the owners wanting to throw a load of money at it for one big shot at the big time. But the problem with flying too close to the sun is that there's a long way to fall if you get burnt.

Fair comment. The club's financial position is something that I'm sure causes all of us some concern. Leeds under Ridsdale, Pompey currently - we all know how it can turn out. But, and I think it depends on your personal world view, for me the "what if" culture is a killer in every walk of life and something endemic to the our culture. One of the biggest challenges I have with many of my clients in getting them to raise aspirations for self / organisation / community / young people etc ..... is that if there was a risk free path to success, everyone would have taken it already. As humans we are incredibly creative and innovative when we are bought into achieving a goal. We have an amazing habit of inventing solutions when we need one if we care about the goal enough. I know nothing about you personally, but I'd bet that in some of the biggest achievements in your life you probably didn't know 'how' you were going to complete every step of that journey at the beginning ? You were probably just highly committed to the goal and invented new ways of doing things along the way because you wanted it ?? I think that's a fabulous mind-set for life and, (and I'm guessing here), I think that's what our owners seem to have - a confidence in their own abilities that, even if they get burnt flying towards the sun, there's a long way to down to find a solution before they hit the ground !?? I hope so. As you yourself (I think it was you) once said - "I'd support my team even if we were Blue Square" (???) In which case there's nothing to lose, so let's give it a go !! Whilst I detect ambition from the owners, they will always have my support. The day we turn into Cov and just look to exist, (although they'd probably kill for that assurance right now), is when I'll call them clueless. I think a scientist would say there's no such thing as stasis - you're either in growth or decay ? I know which one I choose. Sorry - caffeine-fuelled rant at this end this morning !!

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Don't you find ignoring people on here is a form of censorship and renders your opinion as about as valid as a Daily Mail readers is about the government?

You seem to ignore the difference between a smart move and a bad habit.

Putting people on the ignore list = smart move

Reading the Daily Mail on a regular basis = bad move

Besides, with the extreme influx of ever-so-lasting Pearson haters over the course of this recent bad record, the place has become almost unbearable at times.

I always have this picture of a legion of numbskulls all shouting the same dreck simultaneously in my mind.

That's when the ignore function comes in very handy.

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I'm with kitchandro and haydos though I don't agree with kitchandro's analysis of what went wrong (changed team for cup match, change of style of play). I think Wood and NFP had a bust-up which caused a huge disruption to the squad. But irrespective of that, the negativity, the vitriol and abuse and the sheer wilful ignorance mobilised by NFP's harshest and most persistent critics is almost beyond belief. This is the man, as others say here, responsible for all of our most successful seasons since the ultimately pointless Premiership promotion of the Micky Adams team. Every season he has been in charge has been more successful than any season led by any other manager (and let's face it we've had a few) in ten years! There was a debate on Bentleys Roof about NFP the other day and one point being made was that NFP is trying to get us promoted while also trying to get us ready for the new Financial Fair Play Rules. One critic said he wasn't interested in FFP, he didn't know about it, he didn't want to know about it, all he was interested in was winning games. In other words - "don't tell me facts, they'll just confuse me."

Every day you read stuff which fits into the same category.

GET RID OF THE MANAGER - this despite us becoming one of those clubs which sacks at the drop of a hat in the last decade and just look where it got us! Was it four managers in the relegation season to League One. Look at Billy Davies they say, yes but for every Billy Davies there's at least a couple of Blackburns/Blackpools/Leeds take your pick. Ask for the name of a replacement - and you get the usual suspects or a sort of "anyone would be better than this clown" kind of comment.

GET RID OF THE PLAYERS - at any one time there's a whole raft of players who should apparently be driven to the Sahara Desert and left there to rot. Not that easy though is it. Many of the players that NFP would like to clear out are on huge, long contracts - many of which weren't sanctioned by him. They'll still get paid whether they're playing, on loan or taking the p**s in training.

WE HAVE RICH OWNERS AND THERE'S BEEN A HUGE INVESTMENT - lots of Championship clubs have rich owners - Cardiff, Brighton to name but two. They just don't make such a fuss about it. We tend to look down on clubs like Hull and Burnely but many of them have been in the Prem more recently than us with all the financial advantages that brings.

WE PAY THEIR WAGES - no we don't. The vast majority of income is from the money the Thais put in and league payments via TV rights. The club can afford to ignore us - and we shouldn't be surprised if it does.

WE'RE JUST THE SAME AS OTHER FANS (PASSIONATE/FICKLE) - Martin O'Neill felt he was badly treated,. Clearly if the same vocal section we have now had had their way after that Sheff Utd game, MON would have gone and the most successful era in LCFC history would never have happened. Gary Megson spoke of a "cynical" atmosphere in the crowd and NFP has talked of "delusions of grandeur." The view that we are a Prem club in all but name is a common one but it has no basis in fact if you look at our history since the departure of MON.

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Fancy wanting to live in a world where you don't hear or read differing opinions.

Does it show arrogance or a lack of confidence in your own opinions?

Can't really tell - it's mostly a cautionary move and a reflex trained by experience over the course of the past 8+ years on here.

I find it a lack of confidence when so many critics of the manager in particular (regardless of his name) switch to emotional mode and repeat what others have mentioned a thousand times, without coming up with their own thesis.

All this mind-boggling hate, anger and simplistic abuse - one could think the World's come to an end.

I find that moronic.

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Do what Leeds (whose fans have the same expectations as the Foxes) have done and dispense with our Manager NOW, so the new Manager can see what he's got in the squad in the final 6 games, their abilities and their committment to the Club (remember Peltier?), then present to the Board who to dispose of at the season end and how much money the new manager requires to bring in new, quality players. City can then hit the new 2013/14 season running.

Not received anything about next season's season tickets yet, probably as the club are hoping play-offs and promotion to Premier are still possible. If there is no pick-up in form, sales of season tickets will be well down, how will the owners view that scenario?

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All this mind-boggling hate, anger and simplistic abuse - one could think the World's come to an end.

I find that moronic.

Amazing how it just flies right over some people's heads isn't it.

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Do what Leeds (whose fans have the same expectations as the Foxes) have done and dispense with our Manager NOW, so the new Manager can see what he's got in the squad in the final 6 games, their abilities and their committment to the Club (remember Peltier?), then present to the Board who to dispose of at the season end and how much money the new manager requires to bring in new, quality players. City can then hit the new 2013/14 season running.

Not received anything about next season's season tickets yet, probably as the club are hoping play-offs and promotion to Premier are still possible. If there is no pick-up in form, sales of season tickets will be well down, how will the owners view that scenario?

Warnock walked.

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We should come to the terms with the fact that we are just another smallish club wanting a little bite of the cherry that is the Premier league and its £££.

There are alot of bigger clubs in the league who too are after that bite....just cos we spend £££ dont mean we have a right for success.

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I'm coming to accept that Nige is on borrowed time. Each match recently has ended and we look less like turning this around. One thing that's struck me though is how much hatred a lot of our fans on here have for him. Hatred. Not disappointment or disagreement, hatred. Pure vitriol.

This has got me pretty wound up. In the last few seasons I've come to despise our fans as a group. I know there's plenty out there 'in real life' that are passionate but good-natured, love this club and have empathy and understanding and I apologise, this isn't directed at you. It's aimed at the pathetic, bile-filled, neanderthals that seem to take joy in our failure. Cvnt, twat, arrogant fvck. All words used to describe a guy that got us out of league 1, into the playoffs, to 2nd in the table They jump on it like animals, it's shameful and I'm embarrassed to be a Leicester fan at the moment. Because of our fans, not our players or manager or board.

When you combine that with the fact that you all seem as clueless as each other would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

"Bring back Danns and Beckford" says one Pearson-out spammer.....brilliant.

"Changes the team too much" says another...... like if we'd have stuck with the same team week in week out we'd be fine.

"Bring home Martin" ......Bet you were calling for his head after his start at the club.

"Barnsley miss a pen ffs"....For **** sake? **** off and support another club you ****.

"Pearson out - I want him out immediately - he's ruined our season" ......Ruined our season? He got us to 2nd in the first place you mug.

"total clear out at the end of the season".... Yeah, that's worked out well the last 3 years. You'll be calling for the next managers head after 10 games as well I bet.

"The pro Pearson supporters have gone strangely quiet. "I and a number of others have taken dogs abuse over the past months (years in my case) for any criticism of Mr Pearson so come on defend him now we all know who you are!".....Yeah, should have gone when we were sitting in 2nd, that would have been a great move.

This isn't about defending Pearson, this is about our support. He can go now, I wouldn't argue. Fvck the lot of you though, you don't deserve this club.

I usually don't venture on to FT as much as I did these days as seeing moronic posts RE: NP just put me in a foul mood & make me shake my head in disbelief!

I agree with the OP, a large number of LCFC fans are thick, they can not see what a very good job NP has done & as soon as we have a little wobble he all of a sudden becomes a terrible manager & a tw@? Utterly outragious.

I support NP, I think that responcability transfers to the 11 players on the pitch during matches.

I donot know why we have hit a run of poor form, but I know that this Leicester side is capable of promotion & our manager is very capable & has many positive qualitys which he has brought to us during is 2 spells.

We can rescue this season, but it is all about on the pitch results now, there really is no time for any more fcuk ups!

Blue Armeh!

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I for one follow leicester no matter what division we are in, but get why people are frustrated at the minute because the lack of performance is shocking, I pay alot year in year out to be entertained by the players, win lose or draw, but the performances have insulting as we know they can play so much better. What I don't understand is how hostile people on this forum are to people who vent there frustration on here, that what forums are for, they clearly love the club as much as anyone else, and are fed up with a very inconsistent season, and numerous lacklustre performances. If the club had the same attitude in dealing with frustrated fans, as alot of people on here I would fear for the future of the club.

We are all frustrated that the club we love is playing so poor, but we all need to respect that some people express there frustration in different ways, but will be supporting the team no matter what, wether that's on the radio, tv, or at the ground.

To finish we have good fans, but there are better supporters out there, and in the same breath there are far more that are worse.

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I usually don't venture on to FT as much as I did these days as seeing moronic posts RE: NP just put me in a foul mood & make me shake my head in disbelief!

I agree with the OP, a large number of LCFC fans are thick, they can not see what a very good job NP has done & as soon as we have a little wobble he all of a sudden becomes a terrible manager & a tw@? Utterly outragious.

I support NP, I think that responcability transfers to the 11 players on the pitch during matches.

I donot know why we have hit a run of poor form, but I know that this Leicester side is capable of promotion & our manager is very capable & has many positive qualitys which he has brought to us during is 2 spells.

We can rescue this season, but it is all about on the pitch results now, there really is no time for any more fcuk ups!

Blue Armeh!

Too intelligent for FT eh, must be brilliant being that superior. But hang on, you also think Nige is the man for the job - what a paradox you are

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I usually don't venture on to FT as much as I did these days as seeing moronic posts RE: NP just put me in a foul mood & make me shake my head in disbelief!

I agree with the OP, a large number of LCFC fans are thick, they can not see what a very good job NP has done & as soon as we have a little wobble he all of a sudden becomes a terrible manager & a tw@? Utterly outragious.

I support NP, I think that responcability transfers to the 11 players on the pitch during matches.

I donot know why we have hit a run of poor form, but I know that this Leicester side is capable of promotion & our manager is very capable & has many positive qualitys which he has brought to us during is 2 spells.

We can rescue this season, but it is all about on the pitch results now, there really is no time for any more fcuk ups!

Blue Armeh!

Completely agree mate. One minute he's the messiah, the next he's the devil. Ridiculous.

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Too intelligent for FT eh, must be brilliant being that superior. But hang on, you also think Nige is the man for the job - what a paradox you are

No he simply said he's bored of idiotic posters who bang on incessantly with the same rubbish. It's those who ruin a good discussion to be honest. No will to actually change their entrenched hatred of someone/something. If only it was confined to the Internet it'd be fine but that same attitude is in the stands too and that's frigging boring aswell.

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I am absolutely sick to death of all you fickle Leicester City fans, and I'm ashamed to say that you support the same club. I don't even know where to start with this post. Maybe the Nugent slating.

David Nugent, plays in a blue shirt. When he was on his goal scoring streaks, I bet you all sucked him off, you were all there behind him because he was scoring, now he isn't scoring and has made ONE mistake tonight, which wasn't even a penalty, you're all slating him off and saying he's awful, you would of took him off before half time, grow up and stick behind him? At the end of the day, he's still in a blue Leicester City shirt and his heart is for the club! He plays week in week out, he gives it a shot, at least he wasn't like Beckford and was completely lazy! He moves doesn't he? He wins the ball doesn't he? He wins flick ons? He jumps? Nugent plays his heart out and gives it 100% so stick behind him!

Next, fans leaving 5 minutes before the end? If you pay to go and watch your football team, if you're chanting "Loyal Supporters", SHOW IT. If we concede, don't boo, get behind the lads! Start singing more! Don't give up and walk away! If you're leaving 88 minutes into a game and the players see, their heads drop and think why are we even here?! Stick behind the boys! Chant and sing your hearts out!

Also, don't boo. Why boo players in your team? So what if they're having a bad game, so what if they're not Cristiano Ronaldo/Lionel Messi typed players. This is the Championship for crying out loud. Possibly the most competitive league in the whole of the world. Does no body realise that? So what if we have threw points away, so what if we're getting a draw and we should be taking the 3 points? What would you rather have? 1 point or none at all?

If you're going to call yourself a Leicester City fan, GET BEHIND THE BOYS! AND MOST OF ALL, GET BEHIND NIGEL PEARSON! He's our current manager, he's currently taking control, so what if we've had a slip up? Boo'ing and going mad at players isn't going to help. Grow up, get a pair, they're infront of 20000 fans+ a week, they're pressured, you know we're not going to win every game! We're Leicester City! We make everything difficult! That's how we do things! Get behind the boys! Play-off's are still on! Don't leave early, stay behind and get behind those 11 on the field! COME ON CITY!

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I'm coming to accept that Nige is on borrowed time. Each match recently has ended and we look less like turning this around. One thing that's struck me though is how much hatred a lot of our fans on here have for him. Hatred. Not disappointment or disagreement, hatred. Pure vitriol.

This has got me pretty wound up. In the last few seasons I've come to despise our fans as a group. I know there's plenty out there 'in real life' that are passionate but good-natured, love this club and have empathy and understanding and I apologise, this isn't directed at you. It's aimed at the pathetic, bile-filled, neanderthals that seem to take joy in our failure. Cvnt, twat, arrogant fvck. All words used to describe a guy that got us out of league 1, into the playoffs, to 2nd in the table They jump on it like animals, it's shameful and I'm embarrassed to be a Leicester fan at the moment. Because of our fans, not our players or manager or board.

When you combine that with the fact that you all seem as clueless as each other would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

"Bring back Danns and Beckford" says one Pearson-out spammer.....brilliant.

"Changes the team too much" says another...... like if we'd have stuck with the same team week in week out we'd be fine.

"Bring home Martin" ......Bet you were calling for his head after his start at the club.

"Barnsley miss a pen ffs"....For **** sake? **** off and support another club you ****.

"Pearson out - I want him out immediately - he's ruined our season" ......Ruined our season? He got us to 2nd in the first place you mug.

"total clear out at the end of the season".... Yeah, that's worked out well the last 3 years. You'll be calling for the next managers head after 10 games as well I bet.

"The pro Pearson supporters have gone strangely quiet. "I and a number of others have taken dogs abuse over the past months (years in my case) for any criticism of Mr Pearson so come on defend him now we all know who you are!".....Yeah, should have gone when we were sitting in 2nd, that would have been a great move.

This isn't about defending Pearson, this is about our support. He can go now, I wouldn't argue. Fvck the lot of you though, you don't deserve this club.

 

Ah the cyclical nature of being a Leicester City Fan, I thought I would quote Haydos' post again only 18 months ago, feels like a lifetime.

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If this was the first bad run of form we've seen under Pearson the concern and premature calls for radical action would be, while very short sighted, more understandable.

I don't know how much more Nigel could have done to prove his credentials and turn things around when the going gets tough.

Luckily, neither Pearson nor the owners appear to be affected by public opinion be it positive or negative. Some choose to perceive this as arrogance.

We have headstrong players and a coach they all respect: we'll come out of this run no thanks to the naysayers.

Disagree with his tactics or team selection but I cannot understand the lack of tolerance of a poor run of form from a man who has done so much for this club.

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If this was the first bad run of form we've seen under Pearson the concern and premature calls for radical action would be, while very short sighted, more understandable.

I don't know how much more Nigel could have done to prove his credentials and turn things around when the going gets tough.

Luckily, neither Pearson nor the owners appear to be affected by public opinion be it positive or negative. Some choose to perceive this as arrogance.

We have headstrong players and a coach they all respect: we'll come out of this run no thanks to the naysayers.

Disagree with his tactics or team selection but I cannot understand the lack of tolerance of a poor run of form from a man who has done so much for this club.

Not asking for a lot, wouldn't mind seeing us score, and if they don't mind a point or two more on the board please.

It's been said over and over, people are not reacting to the results, nobody expects to win every week, but it's the way we are losing, we are not giving it a go, we are trying not to lose.

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Are our fans an INCREDIBLY fickle bunch via a vis other fans? Or do we just compare with the norm? I always have this idea (prob fantasy) that Livepool fans are really patient, whereas West Ham's are always fackin moaning? Etc..

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