Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 22 June 2013 Posted 22 June 2013 Wow, I cannot believe what I'm hearing from Danny Mills about that Italy equaliser. No wonder he was so shit. The commentator is calling Hernandez 'Chicarito'. Since when did it become ok for commentators to call players by their nicknames? This is supposed to be the BBC FFS, it's not a joke channel like Setanta. Pretty sure Hernandez has Chicarito on back of his shirt or has had for United or Mexico. Pretty sure anyway.
Danizen Posted 22 June 2013 Posted 22 June 2013 It's amazing how good Hernandez is in the air. Such a tiny player.
Kitchandro Posted 22 June 2013 Posted 22 June 2013 Pretty sure Hernandez has Chicarito on back of his shirt or has had for United or Mexico. Pretty sure anyway. He did used to maybe, but that's not his name.
Jordan Posted 22 June 2013 Posted 22 June 2013 Pretty sure Hernandez has Chicarito on back of his shirt or has had for United or Mexico. Pretty sure anyway. He wears "Chicharito" for United and used to wear that for El Tri, but he now has "J. Hernandez" on his Mexico shirts. Even so, no grown man should call another guy "Chicharito." Sometimes, television commentators in the Americas will also call him, "Chicharo," which may subtly suggest his reputation has equaled his father's.
Finnegan Posted 22 June 2013 Posted 22 June 2013 He did used to maybe, but that's not his name. You're aware that Ronaldinho's name isn't Ronaldinho, right? And Santi Cazorla wasn't Christened Santi? Isco's name isn't Isco, Juanfran's name isn't Juanfran. And before you start crying because those examples "are different," Koke's real name is Jorge Resurreccion Merodio. And, hell, I'm willing to bet absolutely nobody can tell me Hulk's name without Google. Some of the things that get on your nerves are frankly bizarre, mate. Commentators, all round the world, usually refer to players by how they wish to be referred to. Sadly, there's a British custom of Anglicizing abso-****ing-lutely everything but that doesn't mean we HAVE to call the kid Javier Hernandez Balcazar just because that's what's on his birth certificate. Different cultures have different naming practices, some have far more formal use of nicknames. Big whoop, get over it.
Jordan Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 Wow, Finn just destroyed Kitchandro. Besides, in many cases, it's best to defer to other culture's customs--not just as a form of respect, but also so we don't completely screw things up (for example, the player known as "John Obi Mikel.") And thanks to Brazilian nickname customs, everyone knows the differences between Ronaldão, Ronaldo, and Ronaldinho. And before you start crying because those examples "are different," Koke's real name is Jorge Resurreccion Merodio. That said I would forgive any broadcaster that went Kitchandro-style in this particular case because calling a player "Resurrección" is about a million times cooler than saying "Koke."
Fox in the North Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 I just loved how brazil had Fred and bernard in attack
Bayfox Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 You're aware that Ronaldinho's name isn't Ronaldinho, right? And Santi Cazorla wasn't Christened Santi? Isco's name isn't Isco, Juanfran's name isn't Juanfran. And before you start crying because those examples "are different," Koke's real name is Jorge Resurreccion Merodio. And, hell, I'm willing to bet absolutely nobody can tell me Hulk's name without Google. Some of the things that get on your nerves are frankly bizarre, mate. Commentators, all round the world, usually refer to players by how they wish to be referred to. Sadly, there's a British custom of Anglicizing abso-****ing-lutely everything but that doesn't mean we HAVE to call the kid Javier Hernandez Balcazar just because that's what's on his birth certificate. Different cultures have different naming practices, some have far more formal use of nicknames. Big whoop, get over it. pele.
StanSP Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 pele. Real name isn't Pele? Edson Arantes Nascimento. Are you proving his point?
Finnegan Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 I would forgive any broadcaster that went Kitchandro-style in this particular case because calling a player "Resurrección" is about a million times cooler than saying "Koke." Absolutely with you there buddy. Real name isn't Pele? Edson Arantes Nascimento. Are you proving his point? I assume he was citing more examples. He's right, I can't believe I went on that rant and forgot Pele, to be fair!! I wouldn't have needed the block prose, one word would have done. Haha.
Danizen Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 I only found out that about Ronaldinho, recently. Ronaldinho means 'little Ronaldo' in Portuguese, doesn't it? And Kaka is called Kaka because his little brother couldn't pronounce Ricard. Hulk and Chicarito are the two most ludicrous ones, though.
Finnegan Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 I only found out that about Ronaldinho, recently. Ronaldinho means 'little Ronaldo' in Portuguese, doesn't it? And Kaka is called Kaka because his little brother couldn't pronounce Ricard. Hulk and Chicarito are the two most ludicrous ones, though. Yep, forgot about Kaka as well. Another good example, almost nobody could actually tell you his name. And yes, Ronaldinho means little Ronaldo, he was called such to distinguish him from Fat Ronaldo.
MC Prussian Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 Is it just me or are referees more lenient in their decisions in favour of Brazil? There have been at least two decisive offside incidents in the Italy game where it wasn't flagged. And I feel Japan are hard done by and on the other end of the officiating. The 2-1 loss to Mexico was avoidable, in many ways.
Kitchandro Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 Wow, Finn just destroyed Kitchandro. Besides, in many cases, it's best to defer to other culture's customs--not just as a form of respect, but also so we don't completely screw things up (for example, the player known as "John Obi Mikel.") And thanks to Brazilian nickname customs, everyone knows the differences between Ronaldão, Ronaldo, and Ronaldinho. That said I would forgive any broadcaster that went Kitchandro-style in this particular case because calling a player "Resurrección" is about a million times cooler than saying "Koke." He can 'destroy' me all he likes, there's a reason he's on ignore. Still, I enjoy that I annoy him without having to having to converse with him. Anyway, since you're on about the Ronnies, I don't really agree with Brazilians shortening their name either, it's bit ridiculous and self-indulgent. Their last names are perfectly acceptable, 'Nascimento' is pretty cool, is it not? I'm sure people used to called him Pele at school and he hated it. Probably means 'little shit' or something stupid. I mean 'Fred', wtf is that all about? That's an English name. And not even a very good one. The bottom line is though, Mexicans are Mexicans, not Brazilians. And he has Hernandez on the back of his shirt (maybe he used to have 'Chicarito' but thankfully that was put a stop to). So I ask, if you're doing it for Mexicans who actually have their name on the back of their shirts, where do you draw the line? How would you feel if the British Broadcasting Corporation used the phrase 'Here's a Golden Balls free kick, what a screamer!', or 'El Pistolero on a mazy dribble, oh he's bitten someone again' or 'Chimp face scores for Spurs!'? You'd think football broadcasting was going down the shitter, wouldn't you? So, I'll accept it for Brazilians as we're about 100 years too late for that, but lets not start getting silly here. Barry Davies wouldn't stand for any of this shit!
Finnegan Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 He can 'destroy' me all he likes, there's a reason he's on ignore. Still, I enjoy that I annoy him without having to having to converse with him. Who's annoyed?! Just baffled. This has given me enormous amusement, though.
FoxyPV Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 Nigeria's finishing has been woeful. They've carved Spain open on numerous occasions only to fluff reasonable chances.
Manwell Pablo Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 Well, for a team that apparently never plays direct, that was pretty direct.
NewburyFox Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 Yep, forgot about Kaka as well. Another good example, almost nobody could actually tell you his name. Ricardo Izecson Dos Santos Leite
NewburyFox Posted 23 June 2013 Posted 23 June 2013 I mean 'Fred', wtf is that all about? That's an English name. And not even a very good one. Fred is short for Frederico to be fair. I don't see the big deal myself, Brazilians have much lengthier names than ours and inevitably most have to be shortened some way. Hernandez I can understand to some extent as his is very much a nickname rather than a practical thing, but complaining that Pele isn't known as Nascimento is bizarre.
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