Friendly Vs York City

[Babylon]

You might as well stick 'shit game' down as a cliche for pre season too. Cos that's what they genuinely are in most examples.

We have the same every summer about pre season, its why I don't bother going to pre season games. They are dull, tedious and far too stop start. That's regardless of manager.

Players don't push themselves in friendlies regardless of opposition. The way it's done is lazy. I say that as someone who plays regularly, it's a mental thing as well as a protection of your body. It's why trialists are a waste of time playing in them too, cos they will be working their arse off whilst everyone else strolls around.....see Lamey.

Perhaps Col will understand my post if he reads this.

[indierich06]

I couldn't give a toss what happens in pre-season games. They're glorified training sessions which tell you as much about how we'll perform during the season as an 11v11 game on the training ground.

As long as everyone looks fit and no-one's getting injured, I'm happy.

To all those moaning - just what were you expecting? Most people will tell you that pre season games are always the absolute worst games, regardless of who's in charge. Players don't want to puah too hard, no-one wants to get injured, no-one really cares about winning it. Its a glorified training session to help you get some match fitness and sharpness back for when it DOES matter.

The only half decent one I've ever been to was Madrid the other year, and that was only good because it was Madrid.

[Vlad the Fox]

Add to that that you don't know what they've been doing in training. I can remember one match a season our two back when people were moaning and it turned out they'd had a heavy training session in the morning.

[Mark_w]

A stronger Leicester side lost 2-0 to Shrewsbury last year, Wes Morgan was made to look like a fool. We ended up finishing 6th and Wes was our player of the season, are people seriously panicking over a 0-0 draw against York in a pre-season friendly?

[MC Prussian]

A stronger Leicester side lost 2-0 to Shrewsbury last year, Wes Morgan was made to look like a fool. We ended up finishing 6th and Wes was our player of the season, are people seriously panicking over a 0-0 draw against York in a pre-season friendly?

Yes, a few actually are! Can you believe it...

 

They're just using any opportunity to criticize the team and the manager, even though friendlies are nothing but exhibition games with little to no value or significance.

[Leicester_Numan]

Considering Nugent is coming back from injury and is a bit behind in fitness, I'd start with Wood & Waghorn against Monaco

[Guest Col city fan]

Yes, a few actually are! Can you believe it...

They're just using any opportunity to criticize the team and the manager, even though friendlies are nothing but exhibition games with little to no value or significance.

No, you completely refuse to understand, completely.

Some of us are under no illusion that we won't be firing on all cylinders yet. Fine, no problem. I wasn't expecting us to be. However, this is not the same as being unable to even look like scoring against York. The two are different so I said as much. I also said that goals breed goals.

It is so difficult simply to differentiate between the two points being made or are you frankly, so rigid in your thinking that you just can't do it?

IndieRich has done it in the same thread. Boys, calm down... No-one is attacking your (our?) precious Leicester. We have dared to suggest however, that it might have been nice to have scored a couple of goals against a side who play at a much lower level than we do. So that we get used to scoring again?

Is that ok with you lads?

Tell you what, you tell us what we can all say eh?

[artursteppe]

No, you completely refuse to understand, completely.

Some of us are under no disillusion that we won't be firing on all cylinders yet. Fine, no problem. I wasn't expecting us to be. However, this is not the same as being unable to even look like scoring against York. The two are different so I said as much. I also said that goals breed goals.

It is so difficult simply to differentiate between the two points being made or are you frankly, so rigid in your thinking that you just can't do it?

What's 'no disillusion?'.

[jamesmilner]

No ones panicking about friendlies but what do we honestly take out of last nights game other than a run out ? Yep , sweet fa !

[MC Prussian]

No, you completely refuse to understand, completely.

Some of us are under no illusion that we won't be firing on all cylinders yet. Fine, no problem. I wasn't expecting us to be. However, this is not the same as being unable to even look like scoring against York. The two are different so I said as much. I also said that goals breed goals.

It is so difficult simply to differentiate between the two points being made or are you frankly, so rigid in your thinking that you just can't do it?

IndieRich has done it in the same thread. Boys, calm down... No-one is attacking your (our?) precious Leicester. We have dared to suggest however, that it might have been nice to have scored a couple of goals against a side who play at a much lower level than we do. So that we get used to scoring again?

Is that ok with you lads?

Tell you what, you tell us what we can all say eh?

I don't see why scoring more than just one or two goals in pre-season friendlies is considered to be a must-have.

And I do think players not giving their best shot on those occasions is connected to us not scoring, it's all connected. You ought to be the one to relax, Col.

It's a run-out, nothing more.

 

You expect us to score four, five, six or even more goals against lower league opposition? What exactly would that prove looking forward to the new season?

 

I swear if we'd be battering teams left and right, you'd be one of the first ones to proclaim we're in for automatic promotion.

[Wakeyfox]

Went to the game last night.  I wasn't expecting much (lucky really or else I would have been gutted).  I know that the pre-season games mean nothing and they are basically an 11 v 11 training session, but surely being able to keep hold of the football is one of the basics that they should be doing in training?!

 

In the first half we couldn't string more than 4 passes together, and they were between Moore, Logan and Taft.  The midfield were trying too many little flicks, none of which seemed to come off.  The main positive was that they generally looked pretty fit and didn't seem too knackered towards the end of the second half.

 

MEMO TO NFP: Do you think that they maybe we should do some shooting practice?  No-one seemed too keen to shoot and when they did it was invariably over the bar. Just a thought.

 

The funniest thing last night was listening to Moore shouting constant instructions to Taft.  All you could hear in the first half was;

"right shoulder tafty, right shoulder", "head it tafty, go on, head it", "left shoulder tafty, left shoulder", "kick it tafty, kick it".

And to be fair, Taft had a good game.

[Bayfox]

I'm not sure, but didn't MON have a pretty poor record in pre-season games.

Then PT cam along and I think one pre-season we looked great and won every game.

That ended well.

I mean what did people expect, I would think come saturday and the northampton game you will see a more familiar line up and players playing in the correct positions, people seem to forget pre-season is about tuning the fitness of players and just getting them back with a ball at their feet after 6 weeks or so off.

[Guest Col city fan]

I don't see why not scoring more than just one or two goals in pre-season friendlies is considered to be a must-have.

And I do think players not giving their best shot on those occasions is connected to us not scoring, it's all connected. You ought to be the one to relax, Col.

It's a run-out, nothing more.

You expect us to score four, five, six or even more goals against lower league opposition? What exactly would that prove looking forward to the new season?

I swear if we'd be battering teams left and right, you'd be one of the first ones to proclaim we're in for automatic promotion.

A 'couple' does not equate to 4,5 or 6

Another good example of your hyperbole.

And I maintained we'd be 7th throughout last season.

[MC Prussian]

A 'couple' does not equate to 4,5 or 6

Another good example of your hyperbole.

And I maintained we'd be 7th throughout last season.

I don't see your point, so I raise you by none.

 

Also, great to see your prediction was almost spot on. Almost.

[bluesbrothers]

Pre Season so far:

P - 4       W - 2     D -  2   L - 0

GF - 3   GA - 0

 

Goalscoring Charts:

Waghorn - 2

Wood - 1

 

 

Just couldn't resist having Waghorn top of a goalscorers chart. Now we wait for him to do a "Steve Oakley" and rifle 4 past Monaco. 

[Corky]

A stronger Leicester side lost 2-0 to Shrewsbury last year, Wes Morgan was made to look like a fool. We ended up finishing 6th and Wes was our player of the season, are people seriously panicking over a 0-0 draw against York in a pre-season friendly?

 

Under Sousa we thumped Peterborough 5-1 away, yet turned out to lose 6 of our first nine.

 

The results don't matter, it's nice to win but hardly the end of the world.

 

The team isn't always first choice/ full strength, subs upset the rhythm, no big deal.

[Leicester_Numan]

The only friendly that should matter to us as fans is Monaco, even then, the result makes no real difference to us or the team.

It would be nice to beat this season's big spenders though

[suffolk fox]

Newcastle had some really dodgy pre-season results a few years ago and everybody was writing them off, they went up as champions.

This,

You are not seriously suggesting we will win the league this season? Challenging for the play offs yes maybe, win it outright no way.

[indierich06]

 

This,

You are not seriously suggesting we will win the league this season? Challenging for the play offs yes maybe, win it outright no way.

Obviously not, he's just saying that results in pre season are no indicator of how you'll perform in the league.

[phillo]

Season starts at boro

[Guest Col city fan]

I remain surprised at the lack of understanding of the psychology of winning or losing.

Do you honestly think that the lads wouldn't have been buoyed by hammering Port Vale or York.

Say Wood had scored a neat hat-trick last night. Do you not think he may have thought 'I enjoyed that, I've got my shooting boots back on again'. Or if Knocky would have got a thirty yard screamer, that wouldn't have given him a feeling that he couldn't wait for the start of the season.

Conversely, if we would have lost, it may have had an adverse knock-on effect?

I think winning breeds winning, goals breed goals and it doesn't matter what game you are playing in, and at what level.

For me, per season friendlies ARE important, both physically and mentally. I'm surprised others can seemingly dismiss this so readily.

We haven't conceded any pre season. Good. But I'm not surprised. However, going forward we remain relatively impotent. This must change and quickly.

[bald reynard]

I remain surprised at the lack of understanding of the psychology of winning or losing.

Do you honestly think that the lads wouldn't have been buoyed by hammering Port Vale or York.

Say Wood had scored a neat hat-trick last night. Do you not think he may have thought 'I enjoyed that, I've got my shooting boots back on again'. Or if Knocky would have got a thirty yard screamer, that wouldn't have given him a feeling that he couldn't wait for the start of the season.

Conversely, if we would have lost, it may have made them think 'we ain't good enough here, we need to improve' etc etc.

I think winning breeds winning, goals breed goals and it doesn't matter what game you are playing in, and at what level.

For me, per season friendlies ARE important, both physically and mentally. I'm surprised others can seemingly dismiss this so readily.

We haven't conceded any pre season. Good. But I'm not surprised. However, going forward we remain relatively impotent. This must change and quickly.

Completely agree with that.

[Happy Fox]

Have we even played our first team 11 yet?

 

Kasper

 

De Laet

Morgan

Moore/St Ledger

Bakayogo/Konchesky

 

Knockaert

King

James

Dyer/Marshall

 

Wood

Nugent

[Smudge]

I remain surprised at the lack of understanding of the psychology of winning or losing.

Do you honestly think that the lads wouldn't have been buoyed by hammering Port Vale or York.

Say Wood had scored a neat hat-trick last night. Do you not think he may have thought 'I enjoyed that, I've got my shooting boots back on again'. Or if Knocky would have got a thirty yard screamer, that wouldn't have given him a feeling that he couldn't wait for the start of the season.

Conversely, if we would have lost, it may have had an adverse knock-on effect?

I think winning breeds winning, goals breed goals and it doesn't matter what game you are playing in, and at what level.

For me, per season friendlies ARE important, both physically and mentally. I'm surprised others can seemingly dismiss this so readily.

We haven't conceded any pre season. Good. But I'm not surprised. However, going forward we remain relatively impotent. This must change and quickly.

I think you're spot on and that would be supported by Nugent's post match interview. He was very disappointed with the performance.

 

Of course getting match fit is one of the purposes of these friendlies but anyone who believes that's all it's for is naive.

[MC Prussian]

I remain surprised at the lack of understanding of the psychology of winning or losing.

Do you honestly think that the lads wouldn't have been buoyed by hammering Port Vale or York.

Say Wood had scored a neat hat-trick last night. Do you not think he may have thought 'I enjoyed that, I've got my shooting boots back on again'. Or if Knocky would have got a thirty yard screamer, that wouldn't have given him a feeling that he couldn't wait for the start of the season.

Conversely, if we would have lost, it may have had an adverse knock-on effect?

I think winning breeds winning, goals breed goals and it doesn't matter what game you are playing in, and at what level.

For me, per season friendlies ARE important, both physically and mentally. I'm surprised others can seemingly dismiss this so readily.

We haven't conceded any pre season. Good. But I'm not surprised. However, going forward we remain relatively impotent. This must change and quickly.

I'm still surprised you still persist with the scoring argument.

"Hammering" opposition can also have a detrimental effect on the psyche - leading to "illusions of grandeur", as a wise man once articulated.

You can't expect a football team handing out thrashings on a more or less regular basis - you tend to omit that you've still got to play against ten other field players and a goalkeeper.

 

Losing pre-season game can be helpful, too. It gets people back in touch with reality.

 

Listen Col, pre-season games are important insofar as the dynamics between the individual players can be adjusted and fine-tuned. But I don't read too much into results, as it is the pre-season as a whole that counts, especially in terms of match fitness.