Nugent

[pazzerfox]

Nugent had a good first half but seem to run out of energy in the second half, missed a couple of chances but created a goal.

[foxfanazer]

If somebody said to you, you can have a striker that either scores or sets up 1 goal a game (no more no less) would you play him every game?

If yes then can you really complain about Nuge?

[Jimmy]

If somebody said to you, you can have a striker that either scores or sets up 1 goal a game (no more no less) would you play him every game?

If yes then can you really complain about Nuge?

yes because sooner or later the refs will starting thinking about how many penalties we have had and stop giving them, then where does that leave us? 2 less than clinical strikers with Schlupp only used as a winger and Wood lacking match sharpness, there is a reason other then just form, for rotating your strikers when you can, obviously recently that hasn't been an option but it is now.

 

Nugent's for hasn't been good enough since last February, ANY other player would have been dropped by now (well maybe not Kasper) but Nugent seems immune

[MattyFromLE]

I go home and away and nugents lack of goals is my only critisim of the season so far.. It's great that his link up play is exceptional rah rah rah but he has to be scoring goals! It's as simple as that,

 

In all honesty, i couldn't give a flying **** who scores so long as somebody does! We are better with Nugent, than without him. If you can't see that, then maybe you're watching a different game to me.

[foxfanazer]

yes because sooner or later the refs will starting thinking about how many penalties we have had and stop giving them, then where does that leave us? 2 less than clinical strikers with Schlupp only used as a winger and Wood lacking match sharpness, there is a reason other then just form, for rotating your strikers when you can, obviously recently that hasn't been an option but it is now.

Nugent's for hasn't been good enough since last February, ANY other player would have been dropped by now (well maybe not Kasper) but Nugent seems immune

1: I don't think refereeing works like that and 2: What the refs decide isn't down to nugent. All he can do is put the ball in the net if he gets the chance.

I agree that he needs to be more clinical but I still think he comtributes enough to warrant a first team place

[Jimmy]

1: I don't think refereeing works like that and 2: What the refs decide isn't down to nugent. All he can do is put the ball in the net if he gets the chance.

I agree that he needs to be more clinical but I still think he comtributes enough to warrant a first team place

which he doesn't do, he missed an easy 1-on-1 and dived later when he was through looking for a penalty instead of shooting on his left foot, the Vardy assist aside his passing is over hit, he must of sent Dyer an extra 5 yards wide 2 or 3 times yesterday when counter attacking, also gave Dyer an impossible ball instead of turning and shooting, again, on his left foot.

 

He is hiding in the classic "I don't want to shoot don't give them the ball" way strikers do, If Beckford, Waghorn, Gallagher or pretty much any other player were playing like Nugent has, since last Feb, they would be getting dogs abuse, but as I said, Nugent seems immune

[cityfanlee23]

So if Vardy is the assisting striker and Nugent is only 1 assist behind him, shouldnt you be moaning about Vardy?! Penalties count as much as a 40 yard screamer does and you would think we of any club would know just how important penalties could be!

 

I was at the game and Nugent didnt play that well but he did make a good assist and we won. When Nugent stops doing anything, then criticise but until then cant we just enjoy the fact that we are doing well?!

He's our top goal scorer...

 

 

You really don't get this do you?

 

YES. BLAH BLAH BLAH Nugent has scored the penalties.

 

But do you not understand that ANYBODY on the team could have scored them, Konchesky could be on 7 goals this season, which would leave nugent on 2. THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!

 

Penalties are earned by the team, and the fact one man steps up to take them is overshadowing the fact that our 'Top scorer' and 'Best striker' has less goals than our CM, and more importantly, FROM OPEN PLAY IS ONLY 1 GOAL AHEAD OF 3 OF OUR DEFENDERS!!!!

NOW. If nugent was single headedly winning the penalties, then converting them, I would understand, BUT HES NOT. The rest of the team are, and the fact he scores it from 12 yards (This is actually easier than not scoring and a pro should NEVER miss a penalty) overshadows it all.

 

Do you not seem to realise that this is the first season that nugent has been our penalty taker, last season he would have only of scored 2 goals as he was not our designated penalty taker and hardly stepped up to take them. But he is the penalty taker and yes I admit he is scoring them - Fair play. (Hardly an individual effort)

 

then I constantly see people talk about vardy saying "He's good but doesn't score enough goals"

 

I would happily see vardy take our penalties, He would be on more goals than nugent!

We could bring back paul Gallagher. sit him on the bench, and every penalty we get, we sub him on to take it, Would that mean he is 'Doing enough for the team'?? No it wouldn't.

 

Like I said. the fact he is scoring penalties is good, Is it good enough to warrant a first team place? not at all. If somebody else took the penalties would nugent have done enough to be part of the first team? NO. Would we slate him if for example Vardy took the penalties instead? Yes.

WHY?

 

BECAUSE NUGENT DOES NOT SCORE ENOUGH FROM OPEN PLAY.

If you can seriously tell me that he is the only player on our team that would score our penalties i'll eat my own leg.

 

STOP DEFENDING A STRIKER THAT IS ONLY SCORING FROM PENALTIES EARNT BY THE REST OF THE TEAM.

 

- And for the record, Assists are a team effort... goals are a team effort but is predominantly the strikers job, nugent is not doing that.

 

If I took the penalties, and scored all 5, but done nothing else, would everyone have their head up my arse?

Nugent AND vardy are not scoring enough.

But Id drop nugent over vardy any day.

[Renart]

YES. BLAH BLAH BLAH 

 

THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!

 

FROM OPEN PLAY IS ONLY 1 GOAL AHEAD OF 3 OF OUR DEFENDERS!!!!

 

BECAUSE NUGENT DOES NOT SCORE ENOUGH FROM OPEN PLAY.

 

STOP DEFENDING A STRIKER THAT IS ONLY SCORING FROM PENALTIES EARNT BY THE REST OF THE TEAM.

 

No offence, but...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdWAcK6Eh8

[cityfanlee23]

No offence, but...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdWAcK6Eh8

 

Unless it's In capitals renart,

People having a 'Debate' on foxestalk, seem to miss key points, then misjudge what you are actually trying to tell them.

 

Putting it in capitals emphasises the importance of that piece of information, so that people actually take notice, Not just speed read over your opinion, then continue to spout why they are right and you are wrong without any sort of judgement as to what you actually said in the first place!

 

Plus I am a typical keyboard warrior with a blackbelt in karate so I'll kill you if you say anything mate.

[Renart]

Unless it's In capitals renart,

People having a 'Debate' on foxestalk, seem to miss key points, then misjudge what you are actually trying to tell them.

 

Putting it in capitals emphasises the importance of that piece of information, so that people actually take notice, Not just speed read over your opinion, then continue to spout why they are right and you are wrong without any sort of judgement as to what you actually said in the first place!

 

Plus I am a typical keyboard warrior with a blackbelt in karate so I'll kill you if you say anything mate.

 

Sorry - IT WAS A JOKE that I couldn't help making - I actually get your argument (as we have discussed previously), although personally I wouldn't drop him at present (as we have also discussed previously). 

 

Edit: Did you see what I did with the capitals there? So, funny! 

[NewburyFox]

You really don't get this do you?

YES. BLAH BLAH BLAH Nugent has scored the penalties.

But do you not understand that ANYBODY on the team could have scored them, Konchesky could be on 7 goals this season, which would leave nugent on 2. THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!

Penalties are earned by the team, and the fact one man steps up to take them is overshadowing the fact that our 'Top scorer' and 'Best striker' has less goals than our CM, and more importantly, FROM OPEN PLAY IS ONLY 1 GOAL AHEAD OF 3 OF OUR DEFENDERS!!!!

NOW. If nugent was single headedly winning the penalties, then converting them, I would understand, BUT HES NOT. The rest of the team are, and the fact he scores it from 12 yards (This is actually easier than not scoring and a pro should NEVER miss a penalty) overshadows it all.

Do you not seem to realise that this is the first season that nugent has been our penalty taker, last season he would have only of scored 2 goals as he was not our designated penalty taker and hardly stepped up to take them. But he is the penalty taker and yes I admit he is scoring them - Fair play. (Hardly an individual effort)

then I constantly see people talk about vardy saying "He's good but doesn't score enough goals"

I would happily see vardy take our penalties, He would be on more goals than nugent!

We could bring back paul Gallagher. sit him on the bench, and every penalty we get, we sub him on to take it, Would that mean he is 'Doing enough for the team'?? No it wouldn't.

Like I said. the fact he is scoring penalties is good, Is it good enough to warrant a first team place? not at all. If somebody else took the penalties would nugent have done enough to be part of the first team? NO. Would we slate him if for example Vardy took the penalties instead? Yes.

WHY?

BECAUSE NUGENT DOES NOT SCORE ENOUGH FROM OPEN PLAY.

If you can seriously tell me that he is the only player on our team that would score our penalties i'll eat my own leg.

STOP DEFENDING A STRIKER THAT IS ONLY SCORING FROM PENALTIES EARNT BY THE REST OF THE TEAM.

- And for the record, Assists are a team effort... goals are a team effort but is predominantly the strikers job, nugent is not doing that.

If I took the penalties, and scored all 5, but done nothing else, would everyone have their head up my arse?

Nugent AND vardy are not scoring enough.

But Id drop nugent over vardy any day.

You talk a lot without saying much.

To suggest that Nugent is doing nothing but scoring penalties is absolutely ridiculous. It was only yesterday that he set up Vardy for our first goal. I've already highlighted the good points which Nugent has brought to the team this season, and the fact that the team is 3rd and in good form is enough for me to suggest that Nugent should continue starting.

[cityfanlee23]

You talk a lot without saying much.

To suggest that Nugent is doing nothing but scoring penalties is absolutely ridiculous. It was only yesterday that he set up Vardy for our first goal. I've already highlighted the good points which Nugent has brought to the team this season, and the fact that the team is 3rd and in good form is enough for me to suggest that Nugent should continue starting.

 

 

No, I say a lot more than you do and provide a lot more information/opinion.

 

 

you have the opinion that he should start, I respect that, but unfortunately like 3/4 of this forum, if you like a player, he can do no wrong.

 

Yes I've stated on numerous occasions what he brings to the team. He's one of the best in the league on past form.

 

But at the moment he  is not good enough.

 

He's been a shadow of his former self for 9/10 months now, and quite frankly it's not good enough.

 

Neither has wood. but i'd like to see him get a run over nugent.

[theessexfox]

A lot of hypotheticals in this thread. If Konchesky had taken all of the penalties... well he hasn't. If refs stops giving us penalties... they haven't yet, why would they? If Nugent wasn't scoring... but he is. Unnecessary criticism. 

[cityfanlee23]

A lot of hypotheticals in this thread. If Konchesky had taken all of the penalties... well he hasn't. If refs stops giving us penalties... they haven't yet, why would they? If Nugent wasn't scoring... but he is. Unnecessary criticism. 

 

 

Yes, hypotheticals..

I respect that they are...

 

However to say he is doing enough for the team is a joke. and a very unnecessary hype.

 

He scores from 12 yards, it's not an individual effort, and he is not the one winning the penalties,

But people slate vardy for not scoring enough? he has more from open play than nugent. and gets half the praise?

ANYBODY CAN SCORE PENALTIES IN OUR TEAM, If nuge earns them, then good, take the praise, but people seem to think on here if he has the worst game in his life but scores a winning penalty, in 4 weeks time they forget that he played an absolute shocker and just count the goals hes scored from the spot?

 

I'd love to see vardy take out penalties, might shut a few people up on here when they realise that nugent does not do enough for the team as one of our top earners, 'key players' and 'top scorer'

 

It's a joke how many people let him get away with poor form.

Like I said, Lets get Gallagher back in the team, then sub him on for all the penalties.

 

Then claim he does enough.

[Dickov22]

Waghorn got slated last season when he came back in to the side and was playing well. He was holding the ball up well, bringing other players in to the game and essentially filling the same role as Nugent is now, he missed chances and scored a few goals but not exactly setting the world alight in the shooting department. At the time every man and his dog was saying, "Oh yeah it's all well and good but he needs to be scoring more goals". So my question is Waghorn needed to score goals to avoid being dropped but now it's ok if Nugent doesn't?

Decent point, but Waghorn has never been a goal scorer, whereas Nugent has. Nugent's got class. Waghorn doesn't. Nuge will come good

[cityfanlee23]

Decent point, but Waghorn has never been a goal scorer, whereas Nugent has. Nugent's got class. Waghorn doesn't. Nuge will come good

 

What would you do about the Nuge/Wood/vardy situation, Who plays;

 

 - When they are all at top form

 

 - and on their current forms

 

Who would you play for each situation?

[Greatness_Since_1884]

But Nugent is doing more for the team than scoring penalties. His assist for Vardy yesterday was excellent.

Taking penalties by the way is a skill. Do you think it's a coincidence that England constantly lose them whereas Germany for example seem to win quite a lot? If we win a lot of penalties, which we do because of the way we run at defenders, then it makes sense does it not to have a player capable of converting them? Would you say the same if he had scored 5 free kicks? He didn't win the free kick but still has the skill to score it

[kingfox]

Think my days of being a controversial poster are over.

 

Lee has taken over the reigns, I can sit back & relax. 

[cityfanlee23]

But Nugent is doing more for the team than scoring penalties. His assist for Vardy yesterday was excellent.

Taking penalties by the way is a skill. Do you think it's a coincidence that England constantly lose them whereas Germany for example seem to win quite a lot? If we win a lot of penalties, which we do because of the way we run at defenders, then it makes sense does it not to have a player capable of converting them? Would you say the same if he had scored 5 free kicks? He didn't win the free kick but still has the skill to score it

 

 

Agree,

 

King and konchesky are just 2 players who take penalties better than nugent. can I remind you once again that nugent is only recently been our penalty taker? and last year had to be dragged up to take them?

 

And if you think there is immense skill in penalty taking? Ive see probably 10 professional football players in their career saying there is no excuse for missing a penalty. the keeper is 12 yards away in a goal 3x his size, he cannot leave his line until the ball is kicked, a professional football player can kick a ball at upto around 60mph average?

 

Keeper should never save penalties, but mistakes by takers are made...

 

P.s England are a bunch of bottle jobs and always have been, the skill is in the composure, half our team could take penalties, fair play for nuge stepping up week in week out,

But apart from that, and a few bits of brilliance, he's been lost for 10 months.

 

If he shows his top form, he would be first on my sheet.

He's not.

[marko]

 

King and konchesky are just 2 players who take penalties better than nugent. can I remind you once again that nugent is only recently been our penalty taker? and last year had to be dragged up to take them?

 

 

What are you talking about?! If King and Konchesky took better penalties they'd be our regular penalty takers. 

 

Nugent's penalties this year have been excellent; the 'keepers have rarely even got close to them.

[cityfanlee23]

What are you talking about?! If King and Konchesky took better penalties they'd be our regular penalty takers. 

 

Nugent's penalties this year have been excellent; the 'keepers have rarely even got close to them.

 

King has taken quality penalties in the past as has konchesky.. Did you see koncheskys penalty this year?? and keepers have got close to 3 of nugents penalties so far, 2 of them got a tip on it. you might want to subscribe to fox player and have a look at the highlights.. 2 of his were quality in fairness.

[Guest Col city fan]

In all honesty, i couldn't give a flying **** who scores so long as somebody does! We are better with Nugent, than without him. If you can't see that, then maybe you're watching a different game to me.

Completely agree..

[Guest Col city fan]

Think my days of being a controversial poster are over.

Lee has taken over the reigns, I can sit back & relax.

To be fair mate, it's a long time since you've come out with garbage!

Looks like you (and me) were wrong about Drinkwater though...

[Bert]

You really don't get this do you?

YES. BLAH BLAH BLAH Nugent has scored the penalties.

But do you not understand that ANYBODY on the team could have scored them, Konchesky could be on 7 goals this season, which would leave nugent on 2. THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!

Penalties are earned by the team, and the fact one man steps up to take them is overshadowing the fact that our 'Top scorer' and 'Best striker' has less goals than our CM, and more importantly, FROM OPEN PLAY IS ONLY 1 GOAL AHEAD OF 3 OF OUR DEFENDERS!!!!

NOW. If nugent was single headedly winning the penalties, then converting them, I would understand, BUT HES NOT. The rest of the team are, and the fact he scores it from 12 yards (This is actually easier than not scoring and a pro should NEVER miss a penalty) overshadows it all.

Do you not seem to realise that this is the first season that nugent has been our penalty taker, last season he would have only of scored 2 goals as he was not our designated penalty taker and hardly stepped up to take them. But he is the penalty taker and yes I admit he is scoring them - Fair play. (Hardly an individual effort)

then I constantly see people talk about vardy saying "He's good but doesn't score enough goals"

I would happily see vardy take our penalties, He would be on more goals than nugent!

We could bring back paul Gallagher. sit him on the bench, and every penalty we get, we sub him on to take it, Would that mean he is 'Doing enough for the team'?? No it wouldn't.

Like I said. the fact he is scoring penalties is good, Is it good enough to warrant a first team place? not at all. If somebody else took the penalties would nugent have done enough to be part of the first team? NO. Would we slate him if for example Vardy took the penalties instead? Yes.

WHY?

BECAUSE NUGENT DOES NOT SCORE ENOUGH FROM OPEN PLAY.

If you can seriously tell me that he is the only player on our team that would score our penalties i'll eat my own leg.

STOP DEFENDING A STRIKER THAT IS ONLY SCORING FROM PENALTIES EARNT BY THE REST OF THE TEAM.

- And for the record, Assists are a team effort... goals are a team effort but is predominantly the strikers job, nugent is not doing that.

If I took the penalties, and scored all 5, but done nothing else, would everyone have their head up my arse?

Nugent AND vardy are not scoring enough.

But Id drop nugent over vardy any day.

But Vardy on 3 is?

[marko]

King has taken quality penalties in the past as has konchesky.. Did you see koncheskys penalty this year?? and keepers have got close to 3 of nugents penalties so far, 2 of them got a tip on it. you might want to subscribe to fox player and have a look at the highlights.. 2 of his were quality in fairness.

 

I have a season ticket so I've seen his penalties, thanks.

 

You do realise they practise in training and Nugent is obviously Nigel's choice. Do you really think Nigel would pick him if there were better takers?

 

Also, as for your assertion that "he had to be dragged up to take them", I'm afraid that's rubbish. He only took one last year against Ipswich (first of his career) and he picked the ball straight up and put it on the spot without giving anyone else a look-in. You might want to go back to foxes player and have a look at the highlights of that game.