Nugent

[kingfox]

To be fair mate, it's a long time since you've come out with garbage!

Looks like you (and me) were wrong about Drinkwater though...

 

At the minute again we are Col.

 

But this time last season he was playing as well as he currently is now, then he turned shit again 

 

So you never know yet Col.

[cityfanlee23]

At the minute again we are Col.

 

But this time last season he was playing as well as he currently is now, then he turned shit again 

 

So you never know yet Col.

 

 

To be fair mate, it's a long time since you've come out with garbage!

Looks like you (and me) were wrong about Drinkwater though...

Fingers crossed he goes shit eh lads 

 

Good to see him proving us wrong (I agreed with yourselves on drinky)

[Freeman's Wharfer]

Think a lot of people are missing the point here with the whole "we're 3rd" and "we're winning" stuff... Yes, that applies to the team which is why I wasn't too hard on them after Doncaster and disgusted with the idiots behind me who booed them off at half-time in that match. The team has earnt the right to be cut some slack if they don't put in a performance that is good enough but the Nugent issue is about his personal performances and they haven't been good enough this season.

 

It's about having standards and expectations of what we expect from those playing within the team. Individually they have a responsibility to ensure that their personal performances are up to scratch. If they consistently don't attain to those standards/level of performance then they should rightly be questioned and criticised. It should be abundantly clear to everyone that Nugent isn't playing to the standard that he set in his first two seasons here and no amount of convereted penalties should mask that. You can't play someone just for their penalty-taking/set-piece ability (if you could then Gallagher would be playing and we'd still have Alan Sheehan) so we have to look at what else Nugent is bringing to the table and at the moment that's not a lot.

 

I'm hearing this stuff about work rate too and I don't think it's true of the Nugent of this season either. Last season and the first season he was here he was a very hard worker but at the minute he looks all too... comfortable. If you actually watch his closing down he (if he's choosing to do it at the moment) is simply running into areas and fronting up defenders without actually affecting them. Watch the number of times he closes a man down who can then just make an easy pass to a team mate. Compare this with Vardy and you'll see the amount of times he affects a defenders pass or makes him play it back to his keeper or put it in the stand is far greater.

 

You could accept that if he was scoring goals. There was the old argument about Yakubu that all he did was score goals, but that was him converting chances made for or by him and goals win games. That was a talent that Yakubu had which no-one else in our squad had but Nugent's penalty taking is not equivalent to this. Are you telling me no-one else in the squad could possibly have scored all of our penalties this season and that Nugent has some freakish ability to never miss a penalty?!

 

Nugent on-song is worth having in the team because he can score a goal out of nothing (see Forest and Derby home games last season) but that's not the Nugent that we're seeing of late. The Nugent that we've seen this year looks half-arsed and has missed countless sitters. Because of the form the team is in it hasn't affected us too badly but come mid-way through or at the end of the season those misses could be costing us promotion form which is why we shouldn't turn a blind eye to it now. If it's not made clear that it's not acceptable now when we're winning then how can we criticise it when we're losing?

 

I like Nugent. He has a touch of class about him and he seems like someone that's good to have around the club. But never has it been more abundantly clear that he needs dropping and a bit of a kick up the arse. I've had no qualms with Pearson keeping faith thus far, he's worth those chances, but it hasn't been rewarded yet and yesterday was the final straw. It's only really through a lack of alternatives (with an out of form Wood the only one) that many people are happy to stick with him but I think that's also what's contributed to him getting comfortable. Bench him next week please.

[NewburyFox]

King has taken quality penalties in the past as has konchesky.. Did you see koncheskys penalty this year?? and keepers have got close to 3 of nugents penalties so far, 2 of them got a tip on it. you might want to subscribe to fox player and have a look at the highlights.. 2 of his were quality in fairness.

King's never taken a penalty.

Nugent has a 100% record with his penalties for us, and he gets criticised because the keeper got near them. Absolutely mental.

[Jon25747]

You really don't get this do you?

 

YES. BLAH BLAH BLAH Nugent has scored the penalties.

 

But do you not understand that ANYBODY on the team could have scored them, Konchesky could be on 7 goals this season, which would leave nugent on 2. THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!

 

Penalties are earned by the team, and the fact one man steps up to take them is overshadowing the fact that our 'Top scorer' and 'Best striker' has less goals than our CM, and more importantly, FROM OPEN PLAY IS ONLY 1 GOAL AHEAD OF 3 OF OUR DEFENDERS!!!!

NOW. If nugent was single headedly winning the penalties, then converting them, I would understand, BUT HES NOT. The rest of the team are, and the fact he scores it from 12 yards (This is actually easier than not scoring and a pro should NEVER miss a penalty) overshadows it all.

 

Do you not seem to realise that this is the first season that nugent has been our penalty taker, last season he would have only of scored 2 goals as he was not our designated penalty taker and hardly stepped up to take them. But he is the penalty taker and yes I admit he is scoring them - Fair play. (Hardly an individual effort)

 

then I constantly see people talk about vardy saying "He's good but doesn't score enough goals"

 

I would happily see vardy take our penalties, He would be on more goals than nugent!

We could bring back paul Gallagher. sit him on the bench, and every penalty we get, we sub him on to take it, Would that mean he is 'Doing enough for the team'?? No it wouldn't.

 

Like I said. the fact he is scoring penalties is good, Is it good enough to warrant a first team place? not at all. If somebody else took the penalties would nugent have done enough to be part of the first team? NO. Would we slate him if for example Vardy took the penalties instead? Yes.

WHY?

 

BECAUSE NUGENT DOES NOT SCORE ENOUGH FROM OPEN PLAY.

If you can seriously tell me that he is the only player on our team that would score our penalties i'll eat my own leg.

 

STOP DEFENDING A STRIKER THAT IS ONLY SCORING FROM PENALTIES EARNT BY THE REST OF THE TEAM.

 

- And for the record, Assists are a team effort... goals are a team effort but is predominantly the strikers job, nugent is not doing that.

 

If I took the penalties, and scored all 5, but done nothing else, would everyone have their head up my arse?

Nugent AND vardy are not scoring enough.

But Id drop nugent over vardy any day.

I dont have my head up his arse but....

 

Penalties are by no means a given goal and can often win or lose games. Ask Knockhaert, Waghorn and Kermo. 

 

NUGENT HASN'T DONE ENOUGH ENOUGH TO WARRANT HIS PLACE IF YOU TAKE AWAY HIS PENALTIES BUT YOU CANT SO HE HAS, SO STOP MOANING.

 

Just making sure you get my point 

[ousefox]

I've been critical of him this season, but he did actually have a good game yesterday. Great assist and worked quite well. Definitely lost his confidence in front of goal though. If he doesn't score in the next couple of games, I'd bring Wood in.

[Corky]

I actually thought he played well yesterday, should've scored but his team play was very good.

 

And complaining that keepers got near his penalties?

[Father Ted]

He was horrific once more yesterday. If Vardy smashes that wide, the Nugent lovers would have nothing to defend him with, it's not as if Nugent put it on a plate for Vardy, it was a great finish by Vardy.

 

His touch was awful. Work rate completely pathetic. He looked slow and lethargic. But keep telling yourself guys, one day, we might play Barnsley again and he might score!

[pazzerfox]

He was horrific once more yesterday. If Vardy smashes that wide, the Nugent lovers would have nothing to defend him with, it's not as if Nugent put it on a plate for Vardy, it was a great finish by Vardy.

 

His touch was awful. Work rate completely pathetic. He looked slow and lethargic. But keep telling yourself guys, one day, we might play Barnsley again and he might score!

I agree he isn't playing as well as we know he can but he definitely isn't horrific!  I don't think he looks slow, lethargic maybe yes.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Wood has been rubbish for months, he doesn't even help the team work well together or hold the ball up and link up with others half as good as Nugent does.

[marko]

He was horrific once more yesterday. If Vardy smashes that wide, the Nugent lovers would have nothing to defend him with, it's not as if Nugent put it on a plate for Vardy, it was a great finish by Vardy.

 

His touch was awful. Work rate completely pathetic. He looked slow and lethargic. But keep telling yourself guys, one day, we might play Barnsley again and he might score!

 

     

 

Have a word! You've obviously forgotten the glory days when we had the likes of Mark De Vries, Elvis Hammond, Carl Cort, Nathan Blake, Danny Cadamarteri and Geoff Horsfield playing up front for us.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

I dont have my head up his arse but....

Penalties are by no means a given goal and can often win or lose games. Ask Knockhaert, Waghorn and Kermo.

NUGENT HASN'T DONE ENOUGH ENOUGH TO WARRANT HIS PLACE IF YOU TAKE AWAY HIS PENALTIES BUT YOU CANT SO HE HAS, SO STOP MOANING.

Just making sure you get my point

Your point is nonsensical though. You can't have someone in the side based on penalty taking ability. If you could then Gallagher would be playing. So, as you say, everything other than penalties doesn't warrant him being in the side so he shouldn't be!

If I'm really good at penalties and can score 6 out of 6 but everything aside from that isn't up to scratch can I play up front for Leicester?!

[Dickov22]

What would you do about the Nuge/Wood/vardy situation, Who plays;

- When they are all at top form

- and on their current forms

Who would you play for each situation?

I've not been impressed with Wood. His first touch isn't great, he's not very good in the air and he looks like he's not bothered. Nugent would have to be really poor for me to drop him for Wood. Vardy has been out best player this season for me, so he's first choice.

[deanolegend1989]

Whilst I agree that, firstly he isnt anywhere near his best and has had a poor season so far and secondly that his penalties make no difference and dont mask this at all..I still think he should play. We have had a great start, and this is alot to do with the movement of Vardy and Nugent. Even though hes not scoring(only 7) hes benefitting the team.

If Nige drops Nuge for Wood and we go 3 games without a win I guarentee every single person will come out and say 'Why is he playing Wood? Nuge was doing ok'.

 

If it aint broke DONT fix it. This doesnt mean you can NEVER change a winning team, but when were looking comfertable and winning consistently, youve just got to let our momentum role rather than changing whats worked over the first 1/4 of a season.

 

The own goals aside, the odd goal yesterday was created brilliantly by Nuge and finished emphatically by Vardy. Our strikers produced the one bit of top class to win us the game. Just like the start of last season, these 2 work great..

[cityfanlee23]

I dont have my head up his arse but....

 

Penalties are by no means a given goal and can often win or lose games. Ask Knockhaert, Waghorn and Kermo. 

 

NUGENT HASN'T DONE ENOUGH ENOUGH TO WARRANT HIS PLACE IF YOU TAKE AWAY HIS PENALTIES BUT YOU CANT SO HE HAS, SO STOP MOANING.

 

Just making sure you get my point 

 

 

You really have no clue do you.

 

You cannot take away his penalties. but you seem to be counting them as an individual effort.

Like I said, Sub Gallagher on for all penalties, and we will see if you still want him playing? I'd doubt it.

 

 

De laet wins the penalty. Nugent has played a 3/10 all game. He scores the penalty that he was not involved in creating as he has played useless....

 

Oh he scored and we won so he gets a 9/10 and we will forget that he's played shit for 10 months..

 

Very good logic from the Leicester city support once again! good old foxestalk.

 

Makes 1 good move all game to set up the goal vs Huddersfield and the fact he was useless for the majority of the game is forgotten,

Thank god most of you are not managing us...

 

No doubt if nigel drops him for wood, and wood comes on and scores goals, you will all say it was the right decision to drop nugent, but when a fan does, Let's all disagree

 

Bored of this argument now. if you think he has been good for 10 months you a very much deluded.

 

He's been terrible, thank **** he converted the penalties, because if he'd missed, we would be calling for his head now wouldn't we

 

 

 

Actually.... I've played a  bit of football... in fact I converted 16 penalties in my Saturday career over 3 and a half seasons at my old club....

Maybe I must be good enough for Leicester city!! LOGICAL

[cityfanlee23]

Your point is nonsensical though. You can't have someone in the side based on penalty taking ability. If you could then Gallagher would be playing. So, as you say, everything other than penalties doesn't warrant him being in the side so he shouldn't be!

If I'm really good at penalties and can score 6 out of 6 but everything aside from that isn't up to scratch can I play up front for Leicester?!

He's a Leicester fan freeman, he's deluded... Nugents been off form for 10 months but his penalties seem to shadow their opinions, yet when Gallagher was consistently scoring our penalties, and quite often long range free kicks... He wasn't good enough...

 

Laughable how they favour players and defend them so much.

[foxfanazer]

He's a Leicester fan freeman, he's deluded... Nugents been off form for 10 months but his penalties seem to shadow their opinions, yet when Gallagher was consistently scoring our penalties, and quite often long range free kicks... He wasn't good enough...

Laughable how they favour players and defend them so much.

Are you Chris Wood?

[cityfanlee23]

I actually thought he played well yesterday, should've scored but his team play was very good.

 

And complaining that keepers got near his penalties?

 

Don't try to act like a **** corky, it's not you mate...

 

Or are you deliberately missing the points??

When did I complain?? One of the other posters claimed his penalties were quality... Hardly top quality if from 12 yards keepers are getting slight hands to them.

 

That was my point....

 

And yes I understand that his game was 'ok' yesterday, but can I just quote your post? "Should of scored" How many times in the last 10 months? He's not good enough atm. I would love to see someone like waghorn go out on a permanent, to make some room for another striker to keep them on their toes. ATM we cannot rely on our strikers to get us promoted, as soon as fitness gets involved near the end of the season, we are fvcked unless they drastically change their form.

[cityfanlee23]

Are you Chris Wood?

Is it not a valid point?

 

Gallagher was a consistent freekick taker and got a lot closer than we do nowadays (Knockaerts 1 free kick in a million doesn't count)

And was a better penalty taker than nugent, And from midfield, scored quite a few.

 

So why is he not in our first team?

 

Is it because although he scored goals, he didn't play well enough?

 

YES.

[foxfanazer]

Is it not a valid point?

Gallagher was a consistent freekick taker and got a lot closer than we do nowadays (Knockaerts 1 free kick in a million doesn't count)

And was a better penalty taker than nugent, And from midfield, scored quite a few.

So why is he not in our first team?

Is it because although he scored goals, he didn't play well enough?

YES.

I'm messing with you, chill out!

[Strokes]

No doubt if nigel drops him for wood, and wood comes on and scores goals, you will all say it was the right decision to drop nugent, but when a fan does, Let's all disagree

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But the latter cant happen without the former taking place, so im not sure what your point is. You are not one of these football manager nutjobs that can't understand the difference between a game and reality are you? It would explain alot tbh.

[cityfanlee23]

But the latter cant happen without the former taking place, so im not sure what your point is. You are not one of these football manager nutjobs that can't understand the difference between a game and reality are you? It would explain alot tbh.

The reality is we have a top goal scorer who can only score from the spot, which you could say about the other 10 players in the team,

 

What's more realistic than that?

[Strokes]

The reality is we have a top goal scorer who can only score from the spot, which you could say about the other 10 players in the team,

What's more realistic than that?

The reality is penalties count as goals and the team are in good form.

[cityfanlee23]

The reality is penalties count as goals and the team are in good form.

 

Good form on paper, So far Average too good at best on the pitch...

 

Can you not see that we have played mostly bottom half teams?

 

Like I said, Penalties count, but nugent is not the one earning them, the other players in the team are, And nugent is not the only one in the team who can take them,

 

But the fact he is taking them, overshadows the fact he is woeful more often than not and has been for 10 months.

Vardy has more goals from open play, but the fact he "Doesn't score enough" is due to the fact he is not taking our penalties, so he gets slated.

 

Very very clever foxes talk,

Yet when Gallagher took a penalty better than any player on the team, and regularly tested the goal keeper/scored from free kicks, he was not playing well enough

[foxfanazer]

Well in answer to your question my personal opinion is that Nugent brings and will bring more to the team than Gallagher ever did.

Gally was just a bottler who popped up with a ridiculous goal every now and then. He was also a very good penalty taker but nobody should be playing because of that. I've always thought that abouy Rory Delap, he's a bang average player but beacuse he has a long throw hes kept better players out of the side time and time again.

Nuge is missing a lot of chances recently and he needs to sort it out but he is either creating or scoring a goal every game at the momemt whether its a penalty or not. I do think people are exaggerating slightly about how poor he is playing