NewburyFox Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 He may not be scoring loads but he's been a regular starter in a team which has won 8/12 and only lost 2. I don't really see the need to change the strike force at the moment when results wise it's working.
Strokes Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 Why do nugents penalties not count for some people. Shearer, henry, van persie, owen and van nistelrooy all took plenty of penalties on their way to the prems golden boot. I dont remember any complaints.
kingfox Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 He works hard every game & does a lot of good things, but he is a striker known for his goals, and as many have said at the start of this season for months and months apart from penalties he has been struggling to find the net. That one on one today, was bloody shocking, had to score, Elvis Hammond or Mark De Vries would of probably bagged that.
cityfanlee23 Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 He may not be scoring loads but he's been a regular starter in a team which has won 8/12 and only lost 2. I don't really see the need to change the strike force at the moment when results wise it's working. Because if we had a strike force consistently scoring goals, We would be winning easily, and probably wouldn't have lost those 2, and would have been closer to a perfect start
Guest Col city fan Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 Good point and yes they do count and are important, but we already have the assisting striker, the workhorse.. Vardy! Nugents job is to score!! not just from penalties because we wont get many more this season, Frustration in my posts, I'd give wood a run, or schlupp.. he sounded lively when he came on and made himself a nuisance Rubbish Lee.. It don't matter who is scoring, as long as we are scoring and winning games.
iamafox Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 Had Nugent been on form, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have missed his easier chances, especially the one-on-one opportunity.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 Missed a few good opportunities today, and that one-on-one in the first half was pretty shocking, but I would like to mention his work rate and link up play was excellent today. I'd stick with him, personally.
ScouseFox Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 Strikes me of something similar to Vardy last year. Copped a load of abuse on here whilst we were winning loads and top of the league, every man and his dog was delighted when he got injured/dropped/disappeared and we went on to win like twice more all season. Why change a team that is clearly clicking and clearly enjoying winning most weeks?
NewburyFox Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 Because if we had a strike force consistently scoring goals, We would be winning easily, and probably wouldn't have lost those 2, and would have been closer to a perfect start There's more to strikers than scoring goals. Nuge and Vardy defend from the front, they link well together (such as Vardy's goal today) and Nuge is linking well with the rest of the team. We've had a fantastic start and Nugent has been an important part of that. God knows where we'd be if someone else was starting in his place so it's pointless conjecture to say that we could've been top. We could also be mid-table, which I guess would be far more likely.
Munshi Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 He wastes a lot of chances, the ones that get clapped off or forgotten because we crossed it in. I know you dont know what im onabout but I do. Ha.
Guest Col city fan Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 There's more to strikers than scoring goals. Nuge and Vardy defend from the front, they link well together (such as Vardy's goal today) and Nuge is linking well with the rest of the team. We've had a fantastic start and Nugent has been an important part of that. God knows where we'd be if someone else was starting in his place so it's pointless conjecture to say that we could've been top. We could also be mid-table, which I guess would be far more likely. Great post and I completely agree
nlukka Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 I think Nugent is playing a lot deeper this season, often between the half-way line and the 18-yard box. It's having a positive effects in terms of link-up play with Vardy, which is extremely good. However, I think it means he has less 'clear' sights of goal, and when he does he tends to panic or scuff them.
deep blue Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 I think Nugent is playing a lot deeper this season, often between the half-way line and the 18-yard box. It's having a positive effects in terms of link-up play with Vardy, which is extremely good. However, I think it means he has less 'clear' sights of goal, and when he does he tends to panic or scuff them. It's a hard call. For me, Nuge's link-up play and his partnership with Vardy have been generally very good - maybe he's been off-form recently but I think his all-round contribution was excellent today. But, he is definitely missing chances that should be taken, and there will come a time when that costs us. If Wood were to replace him then I doubt whether the link-up play would be as good, so maybe goal-scoring chances would be fewer. On the positive side, it would give Nuge a break from the pressure, which might help him regain his goal-scoring touch/confidence, and it would also remind him that he has to maintain a very high standard to be first choice. The other positive, of course, is that Wood's more natural goal-scoring abilities would lead to more chances being taken - BUT only if he regained his form of last January. So many imponderables. I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 19 October 2013 Posted 19 October 2013 We are third in the league. Nugent and the team must be doing something right? Assists ARE important in developing a strike partnership. How about enjoying the moment? Totally agree Col
nlukka Posted 20 October 2013 Posted 20 October 2013 It's a hard call. For me, Nuge's link-up play and his partnership with Vardy have been generally very good - maybe he's been off-form recently but I think his all-round contribution was excellent today. But, he is definitely missing chances that should be taken, and there will come a time when that costs us. If Wood were to replace him then I doubt whether the link-up play would be as good, so maybe goal-scoring chances would be fewer. On the positive side, it would give Nuge a break from the pressure, which might help him regain his goal-scoring touch/confidence, and it would also remind him that he has to maintain a very high standard to be first choice. The other positive, of course, is that Wood's more natural goal-scoring abilities would lead to more chances being taken - BUT only if he regained his form of last January. So many imponderables. I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions. I don't think we'd create as many chances if Wood started, especially if he was partnered with Vardy. We'd be too tempted to hit it long instead of building up attacking play through passing and movement. Despite his size, he definitely is not a Stevie Howard type player. In a way it's kind of encouraging that we're doing this well with Nugent & Wood still to hit form.
Dan Posted 20 October 2013 Posted 20 October 2013 His one on one was a woeful attempt. This. Thought it really was shocking yet the leagues joint top scorer missed one just as bad within about 30 seconds. But Nugent's vital to our counter attacking IMO. Thought his work for our opener was very decent.
Dan Posted 20 October 2013 Posted 20 October 2013 He works hard every game & does a lot of good things, but he is a striker known for his goals, and as many have said at the start of this season for months and months apart from penalties he has been struggling to find the net. That one on one today, was bloody shocking, had to score, Elvis Hammond or Mark De Vries would of probably bagged that. Elvis Hammond and Mark De Vries would've never got into that position in the first place.
stink1884 Posted 20 October 2013 Posted 20 October 2013 Some of the comments on here are hilarious. We are winning football matches with everyone playing there part. The link up play between Nugent and Vardy is exceptional. And Nugent links up well with the midfield by dropping deep and picking the ball up. I wonder how many people on this forum actually go to the game and watch or whether there just sitting at home on there computer waiting to pounce on someones error. We won We are 3rd What more so some of us want?!
mackiepas Posted 20 October 2013 Posted 20 October 2013 Some of the comments on here are hilarious. We are winning football matches with everyone playing there part. The link up play between Nugent and Vardy is exceptional. And Nugent links up well with the midfield by dropping deep and picking the ball up. I wonder how many people on this forum actually go to the game and watch or whether there just sitting at home on there computer waiting to pounce on someones error. We won We are 3rd What more so some of us want?! I go home and away and nugents lack of goals is my only critisim of the season so far.. It's great that his link up play is exceptional rah rah rah but he has to be scoring goals! It's as simple as that,
Jon25747 Posted 20 October 2013 Posted 20 October 2013 Good point and yes they do count and are important, but we already have the assisting striker, the workhorse.. Vardy! Nugents job is to score!! not just from penalties because we wont get many more this season, Frustration in my posts, I'd give wood a run, or schlupp.. he sounded lively when he came on and made himself a nuisance So if Vardy is the assisting striker and Nugent is only 1 assist behind him, shouldnt you be moaning about Vardy?! Penalties count as much as a 40 yard screamer does and you would think we of any club would know just how important penalties could be! I was at the game and Nugent didnt play that well but he did make a good assist and we won. When Nugent stops doing anything, then criticise but until then cant we just enjoy the fact that we are doing well?! I go home and away and nugents lack of goals is my only critisim of the season so far.. It's great that his link up play is exceptional rah rah rah but he has to be scoring goals! It's as simple as that, He's our top goal scorer...
GingerrrFox Posted 20 October 2013 Posted 20 October 2013 Waghorn got slated last season when he came back in to the side and was playing well. He was holding the ball up well, bringing other players in to the game and essentially filling the same role as Nugent is now, he missed chances and scored a few goals but not exactly setting the world alight in the shooting department. At the time every man and his dog was saying, "Oh yeah it's all well and good but he needs to be scoring more goals". So my question is Waghorn needed to score goals to avoid being dropped but now it's ok if Nugent doesn't?
mackiepas Posted 20 October 2013 Posted 20 October 2013 So if Vardy is the assisting striker and Nugent is only 1 assist behind him, shouldnt you be moaning about Vardy?! Penalties count as much as a 40 yard screamer does and you would think we of any club would know just how important penalties could be! I was at the game and Nugent didnt play that well but he did make a good assist and we won. When Nugent stops doing anything, then criticise but until then cant we just enjoy the fact that we are doing well?! He's our top goal scorer... That's the worry considering all but two were penalties
Charl91 Posted 20 October 2013 Posted 20 October 2013 So if Vardy is the assisting striker and Nugent is only 1 assist behind him, shouldnt you be moaning about Vardy?! Penalties count as much as a 40 yard screamer does and you would think we of any club would know just how important penalties could be! I was at the game and Nugent didnt play that well but he did make a good assist and we won. When Nugent stops doing anything, then criticise but until then cant we just enjoy the fact that we are doing well?! He's our top goal scorer... With how many penalties? If he'd won them all, then maybe it would be slightly different. But converting a penalty you didn't win and scoring from open play aren't quite the same, to be honest. It's easy to say "why complain when we're winning". But when we stop winning, because Nugent's not really coming up with the goods, then it's a different story. There's nothing wrong with pointing out flaws with a team - after all, there's still room for improvement, and we're not the most convincing team in the league. If you only point out flaws when we're not winning, then you're a fickle fan, apparently. Yet you're not allowed to talk about areas of concern when winning? Seems like double standards to me.
jamesmilner Posted 20 October 2013 Posted 20 October 2013 if he bagged that 1 on 1 it would've been 3-0 jd . it left us with squeaky bum time instead .the whole game would've been different imo if he bagged . and not for the first time hes did this in a game this season putting undo pressure on us by missing an easy chance,this always gives the opposition a lift not a good kick in the goolies they deserve . he isn't the bravest and when he looked for the foul and got penalised when he stuck his butt out ,that about summed him up at the minute for me . he needs to up his game both physically and mentally , he isn't strong at all ,in fact a bit of a pussy cat . as a team we're doing mighty fine for me , i am more than happy with our position . but the topic says "Nugent" so thats what ive commented on , not the team as a whole we are doing well , very well . for £28,000 a week , we as a team are not getting value for money .
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