Guest Col city fan Posted 8 November 2013 Posted 8 November 2013 Seenitall.... Have you not yet learnt you are fighting a losing battle? I despair of page after page of regurgitating the same stuff, because I'm not sure anyone's really listening anymore? Someof what you say, I get.., some I don't. But these online battles are becoming frankly, dull.
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 November 2013 Posted 8 November 2013 You have always been a bit contentious Manwell so there is no need to be nasty as well....why is my face rubbed in it?????? I love City winning as much as anyone (or is this the real fan stuff again). What a spiteful little man Because at this moment in time your expert footballing opinion on one of the worst managers ever to don a track suit and white trainers is proving to be about as far from incorrect as you can possibly get. Don't really see how that's spiteful and for the record I'm 6'1. Nasty? You do post ill informed (see about 1 game in 5) over dramatic poisonous (sack the oaf, he's destroying the club) crap, a simple statement of fact. Trying to pass off some of the posts you've made on here as "criticism" is a bit like passing off the blitz as "a few bombs" It is fortunate that you have our good form and your brand new opinion to fall back on really however you know full well there are number of people on here who are enjoying you being so wrong (at the moment), and enjoying your fickle opinion changing to "Pearson's actually not that bad now" . Obviously an opinion ready to swing back the other way after a couple of defeats. I've never said you are not a "real fan" I find the term extremely distasteful however your black and white, simple, incorrect opinions and lack of foresight could put this club in trouble if they were shared by a higher percentage of our fan base. Thankfully that wasn't the case.
Oxfordfox83 Posted 8 November 2013 Posted 8 November 2013 Hypocrisy in relation to my post means.....decrying anyone who dares to criticise the current set up whilst similarly decrying almost all previous managers. players and owners. Couldn't be clearer and I'm not sure I could use smaller words. That's not what hypocrisy means, that's just something you object to, while ignoring the clear argument that Nige gets less criticism because he is better than the others (whether you believe it or not, that is the opinion-no hypocrisy there). "wrong", in this instance, means someone who thinks two teams in the same league position are by definition equally good. = Amazing - by what criteria do you get your football success stories - were the league champions last year really Arsenal because they played more attractive football than Man Utd? No, and that's a fabulous piece of interpretation. My point was that a team that finishes 6th one year can be better than a team who finishes 6th the following year. In particular, they can look better bets for the following season, especially if the team is young and improving, and the squad is one we can afford to keep. Vague - Nice and clear then, and consistent over the past 3 years (and please bear in mind you are reading these with hindsight) Sven sacked too early, Nige incapable off turning things around season 1 so we may have well continued with Sven - Nige starts well but ends up total dog shit with some of the worst players replacing 'over hyped and overpaid' players most of who would have done a better job than Kane et al, throws away promotion opportunity for a second season, Nige starts well points wise and last week in one of the admittedly few games I get to see, gets the lads to play well and so we are happy (me too, it was great). These have been my points - you don't have to read them or agree but you don't have to be rude either. That is cogent, coherent, and hasn't offended anyone. I disagree that worse players replaced the overhyped & overpaid (Vardy, Wood>Beckford, DD, James>Danns), but it's a fair point of view and Kane was godawful, especially out wide. Provocative - there are two schools of thought on FT - one is the everything is better than it was and Nige is a God and the others - i am one of the others - I think that someone writing consistently 'In Nige We Trust' and having a smiley waving a scarf is pretty provocative to someone who is yet to trust him so by your standards everyone is provocative - its a message board Nope-I'm an atheist, and it goes for NP too. Just think he's doing well, acts for the long term (rare and precious in a manager) and some of the criticism he gets/has got is unwarranted. Not all of it offends, but you/DT/artursteppe/anotherSS/bnet are dogged in your hate, and it winds people up. Smug - that is just another insult really - if by smug I think I have a valid point and won't have it beaten out of me by the truly smug (the NP brigade have got the award at the moment TBH) then I am neither more or less smug than anyone on here = you just want to vent your frustrations at someone who doesn't agree with you = welcome to FT Quote from last page:"Smug? well wouldn't you be if you were proved right so many times in a row" Quite smug, and I'm not sure anyone but you thinks you ever have been...
pazzerfox Posted 8 November 2013 Posted 8 November 2013 I cannot for the life of me see where this seenitall fella is coming from. When we think of Sven we say. 1. He spent an enormous amount of money (for our club anyway), which we are still paying for. 2. His tactic to get us out the Championship seemed to be similar to trying to pull a car out a really muddy field with a Rolls Royce (playing some good, sexy football at times with a really expensively assembled side that had no real backbone and wasn't fit to do the job). 3. He is a nice man on the surface. 4. He had not a got a clue who Adam Le Fondre was when someone mentioned his name as possible target on the moan in.(That summed him up for me) 5. He shagged Ulrika ka ka. 6. He shagged that nancy bird. No more to be said
midland_red Posted 8 November 2013 Posted 8 November 2013 I wont be reading the book...I always though of Sven as a showman type hustler at best with little grasp of how hard it is to build a side good enough to get out of this wretched leage and then stay out.
Jace Posted 8 November 2013 Posted 8 November 2013 Does he mention when Craig Mackail-Smith turned up to sign for us and Sven did not know who he was?
Dickov22 Posted 8 November 2013 Posted 8 November 2013 Guess what Amazon delivered today!!!!!! Hang your head in shame. Seriously
Oxfordfox83 Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Hang your head in shame. Seriously Yeah. Fvcking Amazon don't pay tax. Cheating Guernsey bastvrds...
seenitall Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Seenitall.... Have you not yet learnt you are fighting a losing battle? I despair of page after page of regurgitating the same stuff, because I'm not sure anyone's really listening anymore? Someof what you say, I get.., some I don't. But these online battles are becoming frankly, dull. I havent posted for weeks !
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Okay if it were left to you as the chairman Seenitall would you sack a manager every season if we didn't get promoted? Because your black and white attitude to football seems to suggest finishing 3rd and 21st are the same thing as you're in the same league the following year.
seenitall Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Because at this moment in time your expert footballing opinion on one of the worst managers ever to don a track suit and white trainers is proving to be about as far from incorrect as you can possibly get. Don't really see how that's spiteful and for the record I'm 6'1. Nasty? You do post ill informed (see about 1 game in 5) over dramatic poisonous (sack the oaf, he's destroying the club) crap, a simple statement of fact. Trying to pass off some of the posts you've made on here as "criticism" is a bit like passing off the blitz as "a few bombs" It is fortunate that you have our good form and your brand new opinion to fall back on really however you know full well there are number of people on here who are enjoying you being so wrong (at the moment), and enjoying your fickle opinion changing to "Pearson's actually not that bad now" . Obviously an opinion ready to swing back the other way after a couple of defeats. I've never said you are not a "real fan" I find the term extremely distasteful however your black and white, simple, incorrect opinions and lack of foresight could put this club in trouble if they were shared by a higher percentage of our fan base. Thankfully that wasn't the case. I have tried 6 times to work out what your opening paragraph means and it makes no sense...... Bizarrely even i am enjoying being wrong about Nige ( nice arse cover on the 'for now') If I said sack the oaf then I clearly allowed my base instincts to rise to the surface You are quite nasty though
seenitall Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Okay if it were left to you as the chairman Seenitall would you sack a manager every season if we didn't get promoted? Because your black and white attitude to football seems to suggest finishing 3rd and 21st are the same thing as you're in the same league the following year. Back of the net - see previous stats on length of service of promoted teams managers in the past five years.
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Back of the net - see previous stats on length of service of promoted teams managers in the past five years. The last 2 league winners (Reading and Cardiff) have both have longish periods of stability (McDermott was coach before manager) and made very little changes to their squads and management team. How does that fit in to your theory of short termism? 10/15 other clubs this season are eyeing promotion so if that were the attitude of all those clubs there would be a ridiculous turnover. I agree with you in the sense there is no point in stability for the sake of it and stagnating but surely you can see the on and off field improvement brought about by Nigel and his team and as long as we are continually improving in terms of football and league position then he has my backing.
MPH Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 You are quite nasty though To be fair he's only pointing out how much of a tit you are....
seenitall Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 To be fair he's only pointing out how much of a tit you are.... Very constructive
Guest Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 I thought Sven was great - I stll think he's great. He brought the swag back to Leicester. He put us on the football map after years in the wilderness. We were talked about in connection with names that only the world's elite were talked about. It did us good. I think ha was sacked far too early in the Sven experiment even though some of his buys didn't work out. I'm glad that NP is here now and he has my full support. I believe he'll take us to the Prem but I'm not sure he would have without the shot in the arm that Sven gave the club and the City. For me Sven would be great in the prem but I wouldn't get rid of Nigel - in fact I'd give NP a long term contract. I'll be sure to buy the book when it's in the bargain bin - as I did with Brian's.
Guest MattP Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Shot in the arm? 80 million debt and an endless pile of waste to clear out, oh yeah im sure Nigel was desperate fot that. And on what logical basis could anyone think Sven would do well in the Premiership now? Genuinely baffled beyond belief he still has this hypnosis over some people.
foxfanazer Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Shot in the arm? 80 million debt and an endless pile of waste to clear out, oh yeah im sure Nigel was desperate fot that. And on what logical basis could anyone think Sven would do well in the Premiership now? Genuinely baffled beyond belief he still has this hypnosis over some people. Totally agree. He did so much wrong here its unreal. He only got away with it with some people because he's Sven! Ex England boss who got us playing amazing attacking football (which is a load of bollocks btw). If Pearson had spent as recklessly and signed as many 'big time Charlie' flops as Sven he'd have been slaughtered., well he gets slaughtered for a lot less than that on here. He may be a nice guy and brings exposure fpr clubs but at the end of the day he's just a playboy mercenary.
Captain... Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Sven was amazing when he first arrived, galvanised the team brought in Naughton, Cunningham and Davis on loan and shot us up the table, it all started going wrong in January when he set about dismantling the current squad Fryatt sold, Hobbs out on loan, relegating decent players like Morrison, Berner, Weale, Vitor, Waghorn, Dyer to nothing more than bench warmers. He failed to bring in Davis permanently, which was a big loss, and brought in shite like Bednar, Kirkland, Ricardo, PVA, Bruma, Kamara, I think only Yakubu could be considered a successful loan signing after January, but those first few months under Sven were fantastic. By the end of that season we were a joke worse than Watford, at least they could actually field all of their loan signings at the same time and finished in a decent position without plunging the club into huge amounts of debt. Then the following season was a disaster, expensive panic signings that bombed and bizarre old boys signings. He had to go, I'm surprised they didn't give him more time, but in hindsight it was the right thing to do, we would never have got promoted with Sven as the time had no back bone, no grit, we could wallop shite like Derby, but any team that put us under pressure and we crumbled. I could still be tempted to read his book, but I'm not going to pay for it.
Guest Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 I think I'd blocked the memory of Bednar from my mind. How ****ing awful was he??
indierich06 Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Very constructive How ironic, Seenitall slagging someone off for not being constructive!
foxfanazer Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 Sven was amazing when he first arrived, galvanised the team brought in Naughton, Cunningham and Davis on loan and shot us up the table, it all started going wrong in January when he set about dismantling the current squad Fryatt sold, Hobbs out on loan, relegating decent players like Morrison, Berner, Weale, Vitor, Waghorn, Dyer to nothing more than bench warmers. He failed to bring in Davis permanently, which was a big loss, and brought in shite like Bednar, Kirkland, Ricardo, PVA, Bruma, Kamara, I think only Yakubu could be considered a successful loan signing after January, but those first few months under Sven were fantastic. By the end of that season we were a joke worse than Watford, at least they could actually field all of their loan signings at the same time and finished in a decent position without plunging the club into huge amounts of debt. Then the following season was a disaster, expensive panic signings that bombed and bizarre old boys signings. He had to go, I'm surprised they didn't give him more time, but in hindsight it was the right thing to do, we would never have got promoted with Sven as the time had no back bone, no grit, we could wallop shite like Derby, but any team that put us under pressure and we crumbled. I could still be tempted to read his book, but I'm not going to pay for it. Some of his signings were decent but if you throw enough shit some of it will stick
Guest MattP Posted 9 November 2013 Posted 9 November 2013 I think I'd blocked the memory of Bednar from my mind. How ****ing awful was he?? Dreadful. Though it doesn't top Danny Uchechi, what the **** was that about? Some of his signings were decent but if you throw enough shit some of it will stick If you spend 80 million on 35 players you expect 2/3 to turn out ok by the law of averages.
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