Konchesky Red Card Appeal. Rejected - Serves 3 Game Ban

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

After listening to Nigel's interview this morning it seems possible they will appeal the red card.

Now if you watch the clip the referee signals an advantage being played, then 2 seconds later blows up and issues the red card. I always believed that for a red card to be issued the play must be stopped immediately unless an obvious goal scoring opportunity is apparent. The FIFA laws of the games states 'if the infringement warrants an expulsion, the referee must stop play and send off the player unless there is a subsequent opportunity to score a goal'

Any Refs want to shed any light onto this?

[Craig]

Yeah, I thought this at the time.

[Captain...]

If the appeal fails does the suspension get increased? if so don't bother, clear red, even if the ref may have delayed the whistle by a second.

[ozleicester]

Sorry i gave to save the children..., theyll have to raise this money elsewhere  

[Manwell Pablo]

You can't appeal it on those grounds.

 

And it was a stone wall sending off

[Dickov22]

There's absolutely no way we'd win an appeal. At the time I thought it was a yellow, but wasn't outraged a red was given. Ridiculous reckless challenge that he did completely on purpose because Mackie had had a go at him a few mins before.

Konchesky's really gone down in my estimations now. He let us down. Should know better at his age

[Dylan]

After listening to Nigel's interview this morning it seems possible they will appeal the red card.

Now if you watch the clip the referee signals an advantage being played, then 2 seconds later blows up and issues the red card. I always believed that for a red card to be issued the play must be stopped immediately unless an obvious goal scoring opportunity is apparent. The FIFA laws of the games states 'if the infringement warrants an expulsion, the referee must stop play and send off the player unless there is a subsequent opportunity to score a goal'

Any Refs want to shed any light onto this?

This ^ . So if Forest actually got an advantage he would've carried on and not sent Konch off? But only sent him off after they didn't and got pressured by the crowd... whether it was a red or not, it shows he didnt have a clue what he was doing.

[Manwell Pablo]

This ^ . So if Forest actually got an advantage he would've carried on and not sent Konch off? But only sent him off after they didn't and got pressured by the crowd... whether it was a red or not, it shows he didnt have a clue what he was doing.

 

This is all so swings and roundabouts.

 

It was a horrible tackle and he deserved to walk, the fact the referee has made a relatively tiny error in playing a 2 sec advantage is completley besides the point. 

 

Besides I don't think we should be slagging the ref off, he's done as a favour with that spot kick and not sending Wes off. 

[cc_star]

This is all so swings and roundabouts.

 

It was a horrible tackle and he deserved to walk, the fact the referee has made a relatively tiny error in playing a 2 sec advantage is completley besides the point. 

 

Besides I don't think we should be slagging the ref off, he's done as a favour with that spot kick and not sending Wes off. 

 

Yup

[lcfcjw16]

I thought it was yellow, cuz he didnt have his studs up but he did go in viciously, so i dont think we'll win the appeal. I prefer schlupp then konchesky anyway

[GingerrrFox]

This is all so swings and roundabouts.

 

It was a horrible tackle and he deserved to walk, the fact the referee has made a relatively tiny error in playing a 2 sec advantage is completley besides the point. 

 

Besides I don't think we should be slagging the ref off, he's done as a favour with that spot kick and not sending Wes off. 

 

Actually we have a pretty good argument in that if the referee felt it was a challenge worthy of a dismissal he should have immediately stopped play and sent Konchesky off, as it is he played advantage to Forest and then retrospectively sent him off which is against the rules of officiating. The referee can't just change the laws of the game because he made a mistake. 

[The Doctor]

This is all so swings and roundabouts.

 

It was a horrible tackle and he deserved to walk, the fact the referee has made a relatively tiny error in playing a 2 sec advantage is completley besides the point. 

 

Besides I don't think we should be slagging the ref off, he's done as a favour with that spot kick and not sending Wes off. 

 

Not making a complete balls up is not a defence for the ref - Wes shouldn't have been sent off because he didn't commit a foul, he was fouled.

 

On first viewing it seemed harsh, but the more I watch it, the more it seems Konch has been very silly there and deserved to walk.

[Captain...]

This ^ . So if Forest actually got an advantage he would've carried on and not sent Konch off? But only sent him off after they didn't and got pressured by the crowd... whether it was a red or not, it shows he didnt have a clue what he was doing.

 

No he, would have played the advantage and sent Konch off afterwards, he waited 2 seconds at most, there was no advantage so stopped play and sent him off.

 

I would like to see refs do that more, rather than stop play, even if you could cite that rule and claim the ref was wrong, they might admonish the ref, but it wouldn't change the fact it was a deserved red card.

[Manwell Pablo]

Not making a complete balls up is not a defence for the ref - Wes shouldn't have been sent off because he didn't commit a foul, he was fouled.

 

On first viewing it seemed harsh, but the more I watch it, the more it seems Konch has been very silly there and deserved to walk.

 

Pfffft highly debatable that one!

[Bert]

Actually we have a pretty good argument in that if the referee felt it was a challenge worthy of a dismissal he should have immediately stopped play and sent Konchesky off, as it is he played advantage to Forest and then retrospectively sent him off which is against the rules of officiating. The referee can't just change the laws of the game because he made a mistake.

That's what annoyed me the most. A red card offence and the play gets stopped straight away. Don't think I've ever seen a straight red after advantage was played.

Sadly, the way the referees are in this day and age it seems they have free reign to do whatever they want.

[Manwell Pablo]

Actually we have a pretty good argument in that if the referee felt it was a challenge worthy of a dismissal he should have immediately stopped play and sent Konchesky off, as it is he played advantage to Forest and then retrospectively sent him off which is against the rules of officiating. The referee can't just change the laws of the game because he made a mistake. 

 

We have no argument I'm pretty sure you can't appeal on those grounds.

 

He's made an error and this will probably be reflected in how he is scored for the match (which on the whole, wont be very high, I wouldn't of thought)

 

It's not going to save Konchesky from a red card he thoroughly deserved. Do you any of seriously believe the FA are going to let him off with that on the grounds that the ref played a two second advantage? Cloud  Cuckoo. 

[Mymanalan]

I reckon it was a definite red. Him and MACKIE were at each other minutes before it and he launched into a needless challenge with no control. It was reckless of him

[Lobsterboyuk]

Would be astounded if we successfully appealed that, Konch let himself down IMO, let's just move on

[foxfanazer]

Konchesky has had his day in my opinion. Looks slow, plays sloppy passes and generally looks likeour weak link. Unfortunately the alternatives aren't that great either.

Left back on loan?

[The Doctor]

Pfffft highly debatable that one!

 

Not at all - Mackies hand clearly goes onto Wes' shoulder and forces him down. Wes shouldn't be giving Mackie a chance to get near him in that position, but it is a foul: he's pushed Wes over. 

[Manwell Pablo]

Not at all - Mackies hand clearly goes onto Wes' shoulder and forces him down. Wes shouldn't be giving Mackie a chance to get near him in that position, but it is a foul: he's pushed Wes over. 

 

Heavily disagree, hands there but doesn't impede him for me, even if you're right though he's still done us a favor with Drinkwater's pen. 

[The Doctor]

Heavily disagree, hands there but doesn't impede him for me, even if you're right though he's still done us a favor with Drinkwater's pen. 

 

Doesn't impede? He pushes him over.

 

And yeah, the penalty for Drinkwater wasn't. Neither of the penalties were fouls, the ref has ballsed up on both decisions.

[ealingfox]

Konchesky has had his day in my opinion. Looks slow, plays sloppy passes and generally looks likeour weak link. Unfortunately the alternatives aren't that great either.

Left back on loan?

 

Ridiculously knee-jerk imo. He might be our weak link but that says much more about the strength of our team than his weakness. He's had some great games this season. Don't expect he will still be first choice should we move upstairs but he has been perfectly competent at this level.

[StanSP]

No way we'll win an appeal for Konch's red. He flew in and although you can't see if studs were up, it looked high nevertheless and was late too.

[Manwell Pablo]

Doesn't impede? He pushes him over.

 

And yeah, the penalty for Drinkwater wasn't. Neither of the penalties were fouls, the ref has ballsed up on both decisions.

 

Well if you say so doesn't seem that way to me, mind you I was at the game and behind the goal so didn't have the best view I guess and not really seen it again since.