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Konchesky Red Card Appeal. Rejected - Serves 3 Game Ban

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Guest Basildon Fox
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Why are people saying Konchesky let us down? He miss-timed a tackle. He didn't attack another player. Shit happens during a season.

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You are all bonkers, we would never in million years win an appeal on that. No chance. Clear red under the rules.

There's was a clear penalty as well, Morgan throws himself in front of him and then impedes him as he tries to get the ball, putting your hand on someone's shoulder isn't an automatic foul. Watching it on tv I'm surprised he didn't go.

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You are all bonkers, we would never in million years win an appeal on that. No chance. Clear red under the rules.

There's was a clear penalty as well, Morgan throws himself in front of him and then impedes him as he tries to get the ball, putting your hand on someone's shoulder isn't an automatic foul. Watching it on tv I'm surprised he didn't go.

 

That was my take on it as well I have to say

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Ridiculously knee-jerk imo. He might be our weak link but that says much more about the strength of our team than his weakness. He's had some great games this season. Don't expect he will still be first choice should we move upstairs but he has been perfectly competent at this level.

You're probably right. Not doubting he's been a great signing for us overall. He was Mr consistency for a long spell but to me he just has noticeably shocking games quite a bit now.

You may he right that it could be because we look so strong in other departments

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The linesman was the one who gave it and obviously told the referee that it was a red down his microphone hence the delay. I think it was the correct decision and I think it's been due for Konchesky ever since that Swindon game in the FA Cup.

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Morgan got a yellow which could've been a red, although I didn't think it should've been red. Konchesky's silly, clumsy challenge was red but could've been a yellow. Swings, roundabouts etc.

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Looks like a blatant red to me - if the referee adds the incident with Konch/Mackie from a few moments earlier, I can't see how he has a any chance at all.

 

That said, those saying the referee gave us one with Drinkwater are heavily deluded. Paterson tangles his left into Drinky's in attempt to get the ball. It is a penalty. If you don't want to believe that, take a look at Davies in the post-match interview where he moans about everything - including the referee's decision not to send off Morgan - but merely says that Paterson made a mistake and youngsters will do that. If he can accept it, so should you!  :thumbup:

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Looks like a blatant red to me - if the referee adds the incident with Konch/Mackie from a few moments earlier, I can't see how he has a any chance at all.

 

That said, those saying the referee gave us one with Drinkwater are heavily deluded. Paterson tangles his left into Drinky's in attempt to get the ball. It is a penalty. If you don't want to believe that, take a look at Davies in the post-match interview where he moans about everything - including the referee's decision not to send off Morgan - but merely says that Paterson made a mistake and youngsters will do that. If he can accept it, so should you!  :thumbup:

 

Classic case of people looking for a "bit more of a foul" to give a penalty.

 

If that happens on Drinkwater in the centre circle no one bats at eyelid at a foul being given, the same rules apply in the box.

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Why are people saying Konchesky let us down? He miss-timed a tackle. He didn't attack another player. Shit happens during a season.

Have you seen it?? 'Miss-timed' ha ha . Take your blue tinted glasses off. It was a totally deliberate rush of blood to the head reckless tackle. He's an idiot

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Well if you say so doesn't seem that way to me, mind you I was at the game and behind the goal so didn't have the best view I guess and not really seen it again since. 

 

 

You are all bonkers, we would never in million years win an appeal on that. No chance. Clear red under the rules.

There's was a clear penalty as well, Morgan throws himself in front of him and then impedes him as he tries to get the ball, putting your hand on someone's shoulder isn't an automatic foul. Watching it on tv I'm surprised he didn't go.

 

It's not just putting his hand on Morgan that Mackie did though:

 

 

look at ~52 seconds, the hand is pushing Wes down. "Winning" the ball that way outside the box would pretty much always result in you conceding a freekick - why does that change if you're challenging a defender in the box?

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Their penalty was a pen.

Ours was soft, but I thought we had a stonewall one on Vardy turned down earlier on

Konchesky deserved a red, probably

Andy Reid deserved a red, probably

Swings and roundabouts

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It's not just putting his hand on Morgan that Mackie did though:

 

 

look at ~52 seconds, the hand is pushing Wes down. "Winning" the ball that way outside the box would pretty much always result in you conceding a freekick - why does that change if you're challenging a defender in the box?

 

That is nonsense, just watch it again, and tell me at which point Mackie touches him. He doesn't make contact with Wes until he is almost past him and favourite for the ball. Compare that to the way Nugent mugged the Derby player for Vardy's goal, and how Knocky mugged the Millwall player for Schlupp's goal:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnZygcnbg8

 

Just enjoy the other 3, actually if you are saying Mackie fouled Wes, then actually you can say GTF fouled the Millwall player for Knocky's goal. 3 of our goals of the month had more contact than Mackie on Wes.

 

Wes fvcked up, with Schmeichel's help, but that was never a foul by Mackie, if you give them, you are giving 100 fouls a game.

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Argubly the strongest defender in the division was "pushed over" by Mackie's fingertip running by him?

 

Sorry Doctor, that's a pen. This isn't a non contact sport.

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That is nonsense, just watch it again, and tell me at which point Mackie touches him. He doesn't make contact with Wes until he is almost past him and favourite for the ball. Compare that to the way Nugent mugged the Derby player for Vardy's goal, and how Knocky mugged the Millwall player for Schlupp's goal:

Just enjoy the other 3, actually if you are saying Mackie fouled Wes, then actually you can say GTF fouled the Millwall player for Knocky's goal. 3 of our goals of the month had more contact than Mackie on Wes.

Wes fvcked up, with Schmeichel's help, but that was never a foul by Mackie, if you give them, you are giving 100 fouls a game.

Totally off topic but that De Laet goal is just brutal!!

Also think I'm developing a bit of a man crush on Jamie Vardy, even though he's an ugly fooker lol

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Argubly the strongest defender in the division was "pushed over" by Mackie's fingertip running by him?

 

Sorry Doctor, that's a pen. This isn't a non contact sport.

 

I'm aware it's not supposed to be a non-contact sport, but that gets given on a regular basis when in the middle of the park - there is no clause on the rules that mention area of the pitch. I'd be bloody delighted for them to go the other way and make it acceptable back on the half-way line, but if they consider it a foul, it should be a foul across the pitch. 

 

That is nonsense, just watch it again, and tell me at which point Mackie touches him. He doesn't make contact with Wes until he is almost past him and favourite for the ball. Compare that to the way Nugent mugged the Derby player for Vardy's goal, and how Knocky mugged the Millwall player for Schlupp's goal:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnZygcnbg8

 

Just enjoy the other 3, actually if you are saying Mackie fouled Wes, then actually you can say GTF fouled the Millwall player for Knocky's goal. 3 of our goals of the month had more contact than Mackie on Wes.

 

Wes fvcked up, with Schmeichel's help, but that was never a foul by Mackie, if you give them, you are giving 100 fouls a game.

 

But refs do give that on a regular basis - how often do you see a player outmuscle another and be pulled up for it?

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Wasn't really debating the validity of the red, was reckless but with most champ refs it's a yellow card. But he played the advantage for a good 5 seconds before coming back and sending him off. You simply can't do that. And if he was listening to the assistant then why? He was an equally as good a position to give it, and must have seen it to give the advantage in the first place.

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