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Did himself no favours on the FLS however seeing him with Nigel after the game shows there is great respect between them. Look at this forum we drew against Blackburn and Yeovil and some on here had us bottling it. Yestersay was a big big game for them, not winning the league but putting down a big marker for automatic promotion. We did a proper job on them end of, anyone who follows football would have seen as comfortable an away win as you could hope for.

 

What does Dyche say, 4 players out and were screwed? my 2 big central defenders defended like cissies, the first goal the defender just got mugged and the second one the guy was weaker than my nan. Dyche must be worrying about their run in but can hardly go on tv and say "i'm bricking it, my big front two are out, my squad is weak and i'm worried we won't clinch second spot. Also lets be fair even Harry goes on about the money we' ve spent.

Posted

This is a really weird way of looking at things.

Agree entirely. The whole "point" of this tedious talk about who spent what is that fans are proud of the performance of their teams relative to their resources.

The current value of the players is dependent on their performances. What they were acquired for in the first place relative to their value now is a measure of the success of the coaching and development offered by the club.

Anyway the whole conversation is tedious. The two best sides are going up.

Posted

It irritated me that he kept referring to us as "market leaders".

I thought they were dire tbf and I don't think we ever really got into full stride, not that we needed to.

We just turned up with flashes of brilliance when it was required and played well within ourselves. A truly professional performance and a lot of dignity shown by NP in closing comments on the game.

Roll on Tuesday.

Posted

If that's a foul then football is a non contact sport

 

I am in no doubt that football is a non-contact sport.

 

I am also of the belief that in the dressing room, referees roll dice and select which rules they will enforce in that particular game.

Posted

It was an accomplished performance but I don't think we really got out of 3rd gear. They were poor, if Ings et el were playing I'm sure it would of been a harder game. You can only beat what's infront of you.

Be interesting to see if Burnley can cope without their injured players. They've deserved promotion this season and it would mean QPR would fold in the playoffs hopefully.

Posted

Leicester took a gamble on a 25-year-old from Fleetwood Town, so yeah, I think they would.

 

To be fair Burnley couldn't have afforded to take a £1,000,000 gamble on anyone.

 

Yes our squad was more expensive than Burnley's, no we haven't spent more than everyone else in the league, and yes ours is the biggest accomplishment because we're the side that's going to win the league. If people want to decide that we spent barrels full of money at it this year (when in fact we've spent less on transfers than Burnley this season) then that's fine, I don't see why it should bother anyone in the slightest. At the end of the day, we're winning the league so just enjoy it. Who cares if people think we bought it?

Posted

From what I can work out, the whole "market value" argument is that if dyche is so insistent on havin a cry that they have a small squad why didn't he sell ings in January?

Could've sold ings on jan 1st for 8mill and bought almost the whole of our first team if his scouts are as good as ours.

Posted

Was reminds me of Mungoe on the film Blazing Saddles. The man is a beast, great player though positional sense and ball distribution. You can see why he has won all those caps for Poland.

Posted

From what I can work out, the whole "market value" argument is that if dyche is so insistent on havin a cry that they have a small squad why didn't he sell ings in January?

Could've sold ings on jan 1st for 8mill and bought almost the whole of our first team if his scouts are as good as ours.

Yes but they'd lose Ings, who is massive for them and has recently been voted best player in the league. They'd have been mental to sell him.

Because we've spent a lot (relative to them) if we sold Vardy for £8 million we would suffer but to nowhere near the same extent.

Posted

Yes but they'd lose Ings, who is massive for them and has recently been voted best player in the league. They'd have been mental to sell him.

Because we've spent a lot (relative to them) if we sold Vardy for £8 million we would suffer but to nowhere near the same extent.

Surely a sign of better management. :thumbup:

Posted

Surely a sign of better management. :thumbup:

Or that we already had a number of other quality players in reserve on whom we'd spent a lot

Posted

Couldn't care less about Dyche's post-match interview. He has his own club's interests in mind. He bigs up his players massively when they win or draw and he's just ensuring as little of the talk as possible after their first home defeat is about his players. They have a bit of a job on their hands now to keep getting results while they have so many key players out.

Even disregarding the money wasted on the likes of Mills and Beckford in the past, some of our fans have to get used to other people thinking of us as big-spending at this level because we've still spent a decent amount of money on our current team compared to a lot of teams up there (Burnley, Derby, Ipswich spring to mind). It's not the end of the world. The real skill is putting together a team out of it, as we know from the failures of previous years.

Posted

I wouldn't be surprised if Burnley hit a mini slump now. Perhaps 4 or 5 points from the next 9. They should still be fine for the autos because there isn't an outstanding team behind them can will win out the season but I can see the gap between us widening.

Posted

Rooney 's goal against West Ham was the same, with him being accused of pushing his man off the ball.. Wood just used his strength, as did Rooney... Burnley can have absolutely no complaints about yesterday s result, the truth is they were outclassed, out muscled and outplayed in every department.. I think they'll struggle from here on in and QPR could catch them!!!!

Posted

I don't really want to get into a money argument but what the hell has the worth of Danny Ings got to do with it? He might get a career ending injury then he would be worth eff all.

 

Anyroad,  like DSR has stated it's the wages being paid which is part of the point. I'll bet that Nugent is on more than Ings and Vokes combined. No, believe it.

 

 

Just for balance......

 

Heaton - free

Baird - loan

Duff - £30,000

Shackell - £1 to 1.2 million

Mee - part of the deal with Trippier, around £500,000 for both

Jones - free

Arfield - free

Stanislas -  ? not sure

Kightly - loan

Vokes - £300,000

Barnes - £750,000

 

Edgar - £300,000

 

I don't get it,  are we supposed to feel sorry for you because you're  a smaller club with fewer resources?

 

What annoys Leicester fans is this idea that we spend far more than anyone else in the division. The squad we've put together has not cost much at all in comparison to some other sides.

 

People get that Burnley have done well with what they've got, but that's not an excuse for losing. You've beaten plenty of teams this season who have spent more money than you. It's just a bit petty and pointless to mention money after you're beaten by the league leaders. It's small time and Holloway-esque.

Posted

Yes but they'd lose Ings, who is massive for them and has recently been voted best player in the league. They'd have been mental to sell him.

Because we've spent a lot (relative to them) if we sold Vardy for £8 million we would suffer but to nowhere near the same extent.

 

Well they can't have it both ways.

 

I wouldn't sell him either but he can't make out he couldn't possibly build a team as good as ours if he's got the chance of cashing in for £8m.

 

Basically, he'd rather have one exceptional player than a team of quality players. And I don't blame him, but that's his choice.

Posted

I don't get it, are we supposed to feel sorry for you because you're a smaller club with fewer resources?

What annoys Leicester fans is this idea that we spend far more than anyone else in the division. The squad we've put together has not cost much at all in comparison to some other sides.

People get that Burnley have done well with what they've got, but that's not an excuse for losing. You've beaten plenty of teams this season who have spent more money than you. It's just a bit petty and pointless to mention money after you're beaten by the league leaders. It's small time and Holloway-esque.

Agree with this. Played the 'we've spent no money, look at us' card all season. The gulf in class was big yesterday imo
Posted

Yes but they'd lose Ings, who is massive for them and has recently been voted best player in the league. They'd have been mental to sell him.

Because we've spent a lot (relative to them) if we sold Vardy for £8 million we would suffer but to nowhere near the same extent.

 

yeah i know, if we were top/second in january and our stand out best player was sold i'd be annoyed. 

 

i was just saying that he has got the resources available to him if he really wants a bigger squad, but he's put all his eggs in one basket and that basket atm is broken and he's trying to make out it's not his fault. 

 

like i said, our starting XI yesterday cost approx 8m and i'm pretty sure there was talk of figures of around that much for ings in january. it's not massively realistic they could sign 11 players in january, sure, but he's presumably upset at the size of his squad, when if he wanted a bigger squad he could sell one player and with a bit of astute scouting buy 10 good championship players for nothing. then he'd have a squad and no reason to get all upset and defensive about little old burnley every time they don't win. 

Posted

Well they can't have it both ways.

 

I wouldn't sell him either but he can't make out he couldn't possibly build a team as good as ours if he's got the chance of cashing in for £8m.

 

Basically, he'd rather have one exceptional player than a team of quality players. And I don't blame him, but that's his choice.

I wouldn't agree with this argument anyway but even if I did, Burnley have sold their best striker twice in the space of two or three seasons now for big money, presumably to finance the rest of their team.

When was the last time we sold anyone to finance buying other players?

Posted

I wouldn't agree with this argument anyway but even if I did, Burnley have sold their best striker twice in the space of two or three seasons now for big money, presumably to finance the rest of their team.

When was the last time we sold anyone to finance buying other players?

This season?

Got rid of the big earners and brough in a good mix of youth and experience on much more modest contracts presumably

Posted

This season?

Got rid of the big earners and brough in a good mix of youth and experience on much more modest contracts presumably

Ok, I'll re-phrase that. Good players we wanted to keep, like Rodriguez and Austin were for Burnley.

Posted

Weren't RDL and James signed for a combined £1m?

Each.

And Knocky was £2.4m.

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