lgfualol Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 I can imagine Paul Ince going for the Man City job and moaning when he doesnt get it because they gave the job to someone who has champions league wins.
Jimothy Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Black man with top job at Premier League club moans about black men being unable to get top jobs at Premier League clubs.
Guest ttfn Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Black man with top job at Premier League club moans about black men being unable to get top jobs at Premier League clubs. Well to be fair he's probably as well-placed as anybody to talk about it though. Obviously it's nonsense though. Don't remember Ferdinand complaining when his pal Sherwood got the Spurs job without having any qualifications.
jammie82uk Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 paul mersons look at the run-ins, stats and form of the Premier League's strugglers on relegation battle http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11712/9775740/hull-aston-villa-sunderland-burnley-qpr-leicester-who-will-stay-up for people who dont want to click just to see ours LEICESTER CITY - P30 Pts19 Run in: West Ham home (Lost reverse fixture 2-0), West Brom away (Lost 1-0), Swansea home (Lost 2-0), Burnley away (Drew 2-2), Chelsea home (Lost 2-0), Newcastle home (Lost 1-0), Southampton home (Lost 2-0), Sunderland away (Drew 0-0), QPR home (Lost 3-2) Points won against remaining opponents: Two Form: LDLDL Nigel Pearson’s men managed just two points against their remaining opponents earlier this season and will need far more than that if they are to make a shock surge from rock-bottom of the Premier League to safety. Leicester need 18 points from their last nine to pass the average total needed to survive in the Premier League – 36.5 – which would require them to virtually double the sum they’ve accrued in 29 matches so far this season. With six matches to play at home, their form at the King Power will need to be exemplary. Opta Stat: Leicester City have won just 11 points at home this season, fewer than any other side in the division. Merse says: I am a big fan of Leicester, they have done well everywhere they have gone and they might get out of it, but they probably have to win about six matches and they haven’t won that all season. They have much more chance than QPR, though. Leicester have some good fixtures at home where they could get points.
Fox92 Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Will Sean Dyche be branded a genius if he keeps Burnley up? Like Phil Brown for keeping Hull up?
Guest Bilo Posted 29 March 2015 Posted 29 March 2015 I don't think we'll finish bottom, we should be able to pick up enough points to give QPR that honour.
Matt Posted 31 March 2015 Posted 31 March 2015 QPR's director of football Les Ferdinand believes covert racism is rife in the game and preventing ethnic minorities from getting top jobs in management. QPR's Chris Ramsey is the only black manager in the Premier League - and Ferdinand wants to see a Rooney Rule- style law introduced to give more BAME (Black, Asian or Minority Ethnic) coaches a chance. Oh get over yourself Les, you sound as bad a Paul Ince. What actually goes through their minds? Seriously? I can imagine Paul Ince going for the Man City job and moaning when he doesnt get it because they gave the job to someone who has champions league wins. Black man with top job at Premier League club moans about black men being unable to get top jobs at Premier League clubs. Just seen this programme advertised during the England game. John Barnes - I can't get a job because I'm black. http://www.itv.com/news/2015-03-29/liverpool-hero-john-banres-i-cant-get-a-job-because-im-black/ Word's fail me...
Jimothy Posted 31 March 2015 Posted 31 March 2015 Just seen this programme advertised during the England game. John Barnes - I can't get a job because I'm black. http://www.itv.com/news/2015-03-29/liverpool-hero-john-banres-i-cant-get-a-job-because-im-black/ Word's fail me... saw that the other day. What an total **** he is for saying that. Maybe it's because he's done an awful job in every job he's had, even Celtic, where it's harder to fail! Also reckons white managers get longer if they're struggling. I'm pretty sure anyone doing as badly as he has would be sacked pretty sharply.
lgfualol Posted 31 March 2015 Posted 31 March 2015 So THAT's why Townsend keeps getting picked oops wrong thread
sylofox Posted 31 March 2015 Posted 31 March 2015 In 20yrs time it will be I can't get a job I am English I bet they don't make a program about it.
Guest ttfn Posted 31 March 2015 Posted 31 March 2015 So THAT's why Townsend keeps getting picked oops wrong thread Because he's white?
Jaspa Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 Anyone see this? http://gfycat.com/ElatedSpiffyBlacklemur He also got sent off for getting fondled so misses the Wales game.
Dan Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 Sigh. Another one to add to the growing list of racists who actually get lauded for their work. The whole mentality behind it makes me ****ing belch. Is a racist not someone who causes tension or division based on someone's race? Well who's doing that here? I mean how could anyone possibly turn down someone who was as high as 3rd with Celtic or someone managed to collect seven whole points from eleven league games at Tranmere because of anything other than their race? The fact he's allowed to come out with this on TV and actually have a programme made about it is nothing short of a disgrace. Would I be allowed to say that I had missed out on a promotion or pay rise at work because I'm not Indian? Would I ****. I'd be shot down and rightly so. It makes me sick how one-sided it all is and I'm fed up of these idiots lapping it up.
Harry - LCFC Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 I'm ever so slightly suspicious as to why he hasn't been able to get another job since Tranmere. True, he did pretty poorly at both clubs he's managed but that often doesn't put everyone off, especially with that sort of playing career. I'm pretty sceptical overall though. It annoyed me that he said there was 'no doubt' that race had been a barrier to him. Now that definitely sounds like stirring shit up.
ozleicester Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 paul mersons look at the run-ins, stats and form of the Premier League's strugglers on relegation battle http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11712/9775740/hull-aston-villa-sunderland-burnley-qpr-leicester-who-will-stay-up fed just two points against their remaining opponents earlier this season and will need far more than that if they are to make a shock surge from rock-bottom of the Premier League to safety. Leicester need 18 points from their last nine to pass the average total needed to survive in the Premier League – 36.5 – which would require them to virtually double the sum they’ve accrued in 29 matches so far this season. With six matches to play at home, their form at the King Power will need to be exemplary. Opta Stat: Leicester City have won just 11 points at home this season, fewer than any other side in the division. Merse says: I am a big fan of Leicester, they have done well everywhere they have gone and they might get out of it, but they probably have to win about six matches and they haven’t won that all season. They have much more chance than QPR, though. Leicester have some good fixtures at home where they could get points. important stat (although, you couyld simply add, Leicester city have won just 19 points this season, fewer than any other side in this division...) Duh! we are bottom.
Guest ttfn Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 I'm ever so slightly suspicious as to why he hasn't been able to get another job since Tranmere. True, he did pretty poorly at both clubs he's managed but that often doesn't put everyone off, especially with that sort of playing career. I'm pretty sceptical overall though. It annoyed me that he said there was 'no doubt' that race had been a barrier to him. Now that definitely sounds like stirring shit up. I can't think of any great players who spectacularly failed twice as a manager without having shown even a hint of capability who keep getting jobs. Even Roy Keane, who gets frequently criticised for his managerial record, actually did a good job at Sunderland for at least a year before it went tits up. Tony Adams is perhaps a better example. Got a big break at Portsmouth (like Barnes at Celtic), fvcked it up (like Barnes at Celtic), dropped down the leagues to Wycombe (like Barnes at Tranmere), fvcked that up too (like Barnes at Tranmere) and the only difference is that Adams then went and tried his hand in Azerbaijan. In a sense theskepticism/cynicism of Barnes, Ferdinand, Campbell etc is understandable after all they had to put up with to break into and then stay at the top of the professional game but their complete inability to accept their own shortcomings is probably one of the reasons they're not a manager anyway.
Corky Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 Sol Campbell will be a terrible manager if he's given the chance. I could see him being an awful man-manager, the type to show players up in training who aren't as good as him.
Fox92 Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 Get bored of it all. "Can't get a job because I'm black" what a load of rubbish. Paul Ince has had many jobs, including a Premier League job with Blackburn, but hasn't really achieved anything (apart from MK Dons winning League Two).
The Horse's Mouth Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 Sol Campbell will be a terrible manager if he's given the chance. I could see him being an awful man-manager, the type to show players up in training who aren't as good as him. what are you basing this on Nick Griffin?
The Railway Man Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 Get bored of it all. "Can't get a job because I'm black" what a load of rubbish. Paul Ince has had many jobs, including a Premier League job with Blackburn, but hasn't really achieved anything (apart from MK Dons winning League Two). Same. The real problem is black managers either haven't bothered with coaching badges or have been absolutely shit. Any other country I think the claims it's because they are black would be laughed at.
Dan Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 I'm ever so slightly suspicious as to why he hasn't been able to get another job since Tranmere. True, he did pretty poorly at both clubs he's managed but that often doesn't put everyone off, especially with that sort of playing career. I'm pretty sceptical overall though. It annoyed me that he said there was 'no doubt' that race had been a barrier to him. Now that definitely sounds like stirring shit up. Have you seen his record? It's literally the type of record I'd expect if a random fan took over. Terrible.
Harry - LCFC Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 Have you seen his record? It's literally the type of record I'd expect if a random fan took over. Terrible. Yeah, like I said, I'm doubtful about his claim - it seems more likely that most felt that he was a capable manager. But nor would it have surprised me if a club had appointed him despite that record - it's not unknown that a bloke with a bad record but a big reputation gets given a job.
Dan Posted 1 April 2015 Posted 1 April 2015 Yeah, like I said, I'm doubtful about his claim - it seems more likely that most felt that he was a capable manager. But nor would it have surprised me if a club had appointed him despite that record - it's not unknown that a bloke with a bad record but a big reputation gets given a job. To be fair you could argue he fell under that category when he got the Tranmere job, and I think a lot of that was largely based on the fact he happened to be a legend for a local-ish big side rather than him being a managerial success. People like him, Campbell and Ince all strike me as the type of characters who will take no responsibility when things go wrong, and that is entirely based on what they're saying here. That for me is a trait any club should be looking to dodge from their manager, and why they ought to have done their chances more harm with these type of comments than good.
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