Rincewind Posted 25 August 2014 Posted 25 August 2014 I never realised the virus was that bad. its like a futuristic acopolypse film where there is an epidemic that wipes the population. Could it be that bad?
Bryn Posted 25 August 2014 Posted 25 August 2014 I never realised the virus was that bad. its like a futuristic acopolypse film where there is an epidemic that wipes the population. Could it be that bad? I think its unlikely, it kills too efficiently. Infectious diseases need living hosts to act as conduits and I think when Ebola breaks out here it will burn itself out quickly. The most successful infections spread slowly and quietly, and keep their hosts alive long enough to develop favourable mutations. The common cold being the example of arguably the most successful organism on the planet.
leicsmac Posted 25 August 2014 Posted 25 August 2014 I think its unlikely, it kills too efficiently. Infectious diseases need living hosts to act as conduits and I think when Ebola breaks out here it will burn itself out quickly. The most successful infections spread slowly and quietly, and keep their hosts alive long enough to develop favourable mutations. The common cold being the example of arguably the most successful organism on the planet. The incubation period for Ebola is a factor in it's favour though. Once it become symptomatic it does kill quickly, but there's a decent sized time period where a carrier doesn't know anything is wrong. The one factor in our favour is that it's difficult to transmit, and that's the major reason why it's not caused a much, much bigger problem thus far. In the success stakes, the common cold wins on account of transmittability, and I think a honourable mention should go to the human immunodeficiency virus for it's ability to keep its host alive for a really long time.
Merging Cultures Posted 3 October 2014 Posted 3 October 2014 I wonder how many people were infected by the Liberian guy who was diagnosed in the US.
Merging Cultures Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Ebola has arrived in Spain... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29516882 Living in Africa (albeit a place no one visits) I am tracking this quite closely. I also tend to be a 'prepper' at least in thought, so I am a bit paranoid too. I do think you'll have a case diagnosed and then contracted in the UK in the next two months.
Kyle_Le_Don Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Don't know if this has been discussed but does anyone know if its true that that Ebola is patented??
Buce Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Don't know if this has been discussed but does anyone know if its true that that Ebola is patented?? Yes, and the patent is held by the US govt. Conspiracy theorists, begin...
VLC86 Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Ebola oooOooo, Ebola, oooOooo, it comes from africa, it's gunna kill ya. Sorry that's bad, feel free to call me a cnut. It's clearly very bad in certain parts of Africa but I read that for every one person that gets it they pass it on to 1.5 people. Compare it to other diseases like measles for example and that is 1 person gives it to 20. If it even has a hint of an outbreak in the UKR expect all air travel to the main outbreak points on Africa to be suspended.
Guest Kopfkino Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Don't know if this has been discussed but does anyone know if its true that that Ebola is patented?? A strain of Ebola was patented a couple of years ago by the CDC I think. Not the same strain as the current outbreak
Trav Le Bleu Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Weird how Ebola has been around for decades killing people in Africa and now, all of a sudden, rich, industrial nations are beginning to throw money at finding a vaccine.
LCFC Rennie Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Ebola woah, ebola woah, he came from Africa, he'll ****ing murder ya.
Merging Cultures Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Ebola oooOooo, Ebola, oooOooo, it comes from africa, it's gunna kill ya. Sorry that's bad, feel free to call me a cnut. It's clearly very bad in certain parts of Africa but I read that for every one person that gets it they pass it on to 1.5 people. Compare it to other diseases like measles for example and that is 1 person gives it to 20. If it even has a hint of an outbreak in the UKR expect all air travel to the main outbreak points on Africa to be suspended. While it doesn't spread as quickly as measles it does kill about 70% of those infected, which is much worse than measles. Also, there is evidence the virus is mutating to keep the host alive longer, therefore likely to increase the R0 (infection rate).
Beliall Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Hopefully this will encourage the superpowers of this world to eradicate it
VLC86 Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 While it doesn't spread as quickly as measles it does kill about 70% of those infected, which is much worse than measles. Also, there is evidence the virus is mutating to keep the host alive longer, therefore likely to increase the R0 (infection rate). Yep I get that, but Measles did a long time ago. I watched a documentary on Ebola probably 6/7 years ago and it is nasty but lets be honest the UK is a different works to Africa.
VLC86 Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Ebola woah, ebola woah, he came from Africa, he'll ****ing murder ya. Well read.
Kyle_Le_Don Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 Yes, and the patent is held by the US govt. Conspiracy theorists, begin... Ha.. just find it a bit strange that's all if that's the case. I'm sure there's a logical reason for it?
Raj Posted 7 October 2014 Posted 7 October 2014 There will be an Arsenal player called Ebola by the end of nexy year!
Merging Cultures Posted 8 October 2014 Posted 8 October 2014 Yep I get that, but Measles did a long time ago. I watched a documentary on Ebola probably 6/7 years ago and it is nasty but lets be honest the UK is a different works to Africa. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter the standard of the healthcare, there is no approved cure and the experimental drugs are already in short supply. However, the UK does have the capability to identify, monitor and isolate people who have been in contact with infected people. Well, until the sick person is on a tube or bus and spreading the virus on surfaces. At which point, then the UK has better services to isolate the infected, but as said before that wont necessarily cure them. Another thing I am concerned about is the military personnel being sent to the region. The more people we send in, the more that will get infected. The Spanish nurse who got infected is an example of how the safety measures are not fool proof.
VLC86 Posted 8 October 2014 Posted 8 October 2014 Unfortunately, it doesn't matter the standard of the healthcare, there is no approved cure and the experimental drugs are already in short supply. However, the UK does have the capability to identify, monitor and isolate people who have been in contact with infected people. Well, until the sick person is on a tube or bus and spreading the virus on surfaces. At which point, then the UK has better services to isolate the infected, but as said before that wont necessarily cure them. Another thing I am concerned about is the military personnel being sent to the region. The more people we send in, the more that will get infected. The Spanish nurse who got infected is an example of how the safety measures are not fool proof. I wasn't talking about the healthcare, I was talking about the level to which we are educated compared to Africa. For Eg I read a horrible article on Sky the other day where people who think they have Ebola won't get help because they are scared the community will isolate their family meaning they die at home and infect their family. Would that happen here? I doubt it.
bovril Posted 8 October 2014 Posted 8 October 2014 Dele had ebola I had ebola cornflakes this morning.
Alf Bentley Posted 8 October 2014 Posted 8 October 2014 I had ebola cornflakes this morning. Precautionary vaccination - good thinking.
yorkie1999 Posted 8 October 2014 Posted 8 October 2014 Good money making scheme for anyone who wants to take the risk. If you go to africa, catch ebola, come back you'll be one of the first to have it in this country, that guarantees you top medical help. If and when you recover, a) you'll be resistant to it and therefore you'll outlive everyone else because the hospitals will be too full and b) you can sell your blood for a fortune as an antigenic. Why is the British military getting involved?. Is there some kind of viral warfare conspiracy going on? seems strange.
Guest MattP Posted 8 October 2014 Posted 8 October 2014 Dele had ebola Brilliant Been waiting for a Dele Adebola joke since this started.
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