Pearson's post match comments?

[Stadt]

He often mentions that he 'picks the best team to get a resulting the occasion' but is he cutting his nose to spite his face by not playing a particular player just to make an example of them?

[inckley fox]

People are calling for the best manager we've had in a decade to be sacked while we're outside the relegation zone because of 5, 5! bad games. We're moving forwards as a club and people want to gamble that on a new manager because they're incredibly short sighted, because they haven't learned a thing from what happened a year and half ago when they last called for his head. Yes, I am indeed, 'a little bit grumpy'.

 

Well, I kind of agree with you, though I can't yet match your confidence in his capacity as a Premier League manager. Let's see what happens over the next few games. One jammy win and all this will feel like a distant memory.

 

Football can be fickle!

[Mark_w]

Stumbled across this while looking to see what Leicester fans made of our start to Premier League life under O'Neill. Not exactly Leicester related, but I think it's interesting and relevant enough to this thread to post. Plus it's just fantastic. http://www.chairboys.co.uk/history/1992-1993/april1993-martins-rant.htm

[theessexfox]

I definitely want him sacked. We didnt notice his arrogance last season as it was justified with results. Now he just looks like a massive twat. I was a massive fan but the constant pissing about with the starting lineup and formation (and refusal to admit that its a factor for the shite performances) has worn me down.

I want him gone and someone to come in that can make the best of what we have rather than constantly trying to over complicate things.

FFS it's a 5 game run, we're not even in the relegation zone. We had a cracking start to the season and are now in the PL for the first time in 10 years after a record breaking season. Can't you have patience with Pearson? He needs time to adapt to this division too, I reiterate that even with this poor spell and Pearson learning how tough the Premier League is, we remain outside of the bottom 3. Today was a marked improvement on Swansea too. Have some patience, don't be fickle. 

[suffolk fox]

FFS it's a 5 game run, we're not even in the relegation zone. We had a cracking start to the season and are now in the PL for the first time in 10 years after a record breaking season. Can't you have patience with Pearson? He needs time to adapt to this division too, I reiterate that even with this poor spell and Pearson learning how tough the Premier League is, we remain outside of the bottom 3. Today was a marked improvement on Swansea too. Have some patience, don't be fickle.

We will be in the bottom three come the end of Monday night. What excuse next? Its only x amount of games? Last five games two goals scored eight conceded, not good enougth at any level.

[Dickov22]

I think his comment is probably as a result of the huge amount of stick he got a couple of seasons ago from certain fans. He hasn't forgotten it

[hesapeepingtom]

We will be in the bottom three come the end of Monday night. What excuse next? Its only x amount of games? Last five games two goals scored eight conceded, not good enougth at any level.

Not if it's a draw or Palace win we won't.I'm hoping for a draw

[Crinklyfox]

Stumbled across this while looking to see what Leicester fans made of our start to Premier League life under O'Neill. Not exactly Leicester related, but I think it's interesting and relevant enough to this thread to post. Plus it's just fantastic. http://www.chairboys.co.uk/history/1992-1993/april1993-martins-rant.htm

Thanks for that Mark, brilliant stuff.

 

I was watching an interview with Muzzy Izzet on Sky a few weeks ago and he said that MON got slated by a number of City supporters when he first joined the club and they went on a losing streak.  Some of them even wrote to him to voice their displeasure, MON kept the letters.  Then City went on a long winning run, made the playoffs and got promoted, after which he said MON contacted all the letter writers to ask them what they thought about things now.

[Thracian]

When Pearson talks about players not meeting the required standards he needs to remember himself, his coaches and almost the whole side right now and ask himself why?

 

Because he conducts the orchestra and right now they all seem to need re-tuning.

 

And instead of digging at down players with his not-so-veiled criticism Pearson needs to talk to himself and ask "why am I failing to get the best out of these people?"  

 

Knockaert is a classic example. He's the most frustrating footballer but the requirements of him are simple. Pass the ball quickly and si,mply in the back two-thirds and excite yourself and others in the front third. If Pearson really can't effect that requirement as a manager then he's in the wrong job.

 

But Knockaert's not alone.

Think of so many  of our players and ask if they're really playing at their best?

 

Schmeichel, DeLaet, Konchesky, Schlupp, Drinkwater, Cambiasso, Nugent, Ulloa, Vardy, "Long Lost" Upson, "Occasional" Albrighton.

 

Even the ever-competent King seems to have lost his ability to score.

 

That's a team full of footballers so surely it can't all be coincidental - especially given how well some of them played earlier in the season and even against top class opposition.

 

Pearson needs to start any inquest with himself and his staff...the people who mould the team and instil the confidence and focus in people. 

 

Then he needs to think about his footballing philosophy and what's required of a successful football team.

 

Me, I'd want to represent something, like Manchester United or Southampton. I'd want to represent a spirit of adventure and, far from dropping the likes of Vardy, Schlupp, King, Knockaert and Mayrez, I'd be demanding and demonstrating how they could get the best of themselves.

 

I'd also be doing the same with Cambiasso. I'd be giving him a specific role and explaining precisely what I wanted from him in that role. The man seems to exude an air of responsibility and that's what I'd give him - in abundance. No kop outs, no failing to track people, no excuses and endless impact.       

   

He, King and James would hold the team together and they'd be surrounded by pace, skill and determination. We'd move as a team - all for one and one for all - in defence and attack. No lame ducks and no fear. We'd ask so many questions we'd feel like the Inquisition.

 

The opposition? The only thing I'd want to know about the opposition is where the team had to play next. The same principles for any opposition would apply as a given and leaders in the team would effect those principles as a matter of course.

 

Otherwise when we had the ball we'd try to make things happen and score the goals necessary to win. When they had the ball we'd give em not a moment's peace and work damned hard to see that the people who could play wouldn't ever get the ball to show it.

 

Positive, positive, positve.....and who dares would win enough to hold their heads high. Week in, week out.

 

 

 

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[fox in the sox]

I never expect Nige to say what he's thinking... but I was worried that he says his role as simply improving players! His role is the shape, tactics and strategy of the team - and I think he is struggling. When you look at today's team selection is defies any reason or logic... Ok away at Swansea is tough... Newcastle are perhaps resurgent... but I have now seen us draw with crappy Burnley and lose to crappy WBA... we are throwing away points that should be ours (...we even scored wba's goal for them).

We are at home, but, Ok play three central midfielders - but why not play mahrez who has some creativity and could add some width on either side and ulloa who can battle with their defenders rather than King and Nugent? I like Nugent, but, a no10 who can't score is a luxury - of course I expect Nige likes him a lot... King is popular but he is too light weight... Ulloa showed he can use his strength to deal with the centre back when he came on.

The team selection and tactics suggest Nigel doesn't know what he is doing - what the shape should be?... and who should be in it?... Nigel is a nice guy but he needs help.... he has stepped up to the prem and he is struggling bug time - he can sort it but he need help.

Nigel said it was a good display but didn't mention the creativity issue - we did not create changes or score any goals - if he had started with Mahrez and Ulloa instead of Nugent and King I would, at least, think he was sensible... ignore what he says... look at what he does.... and what that says about him - he is lost!

Crappy WBA who are top half? As Burnley are proving you can't get the results in this division if you are 'crappy'. Don't forget they were away and that is one method of picking up wins away from home.

[The Doctor]

Those games have gone now. We've also played poor against Burnley, Newcastle, Palace, Swansea and now recently today.

We can keep saying "we did this, we did that" until we are relegated (and for the record I totally have faith in Pearson but his selections and tactics recently have been very questionable).

Results against Everton, Arsenal, Manchester United were "bonus points". If we can't beat the likes of West Brom and Burnley then what's the point?

 

No points are bonus points - doesn't matter if we get to 40 points by spanking the big sides and slipping up against lower sides, or by dominating lower sides and losing to the big teams, so long as we reach the 40 point mark. 

[Monsell1976]

If we continue like this for a few weeks do you think he will revert to type, and the famous " if you don't like it don't come", and " we have a crisis in confidence", and then nothing changes.

I hope he's learnt from the silly arrogant comments, because at the minute I don't want to see him go, but after those comments last time I wanted him gone.

It was very unclear who the repeated I don't care what they think comments were aimed at, I just hope it wasn't at the fans, as he should care, if he loses the fans, he loses his job, as the owners will take note of the crowds reactions, aswell as results.

[Corky]

If we continue like this for a few weeks do you think he will revert to type, and the famous " if you don't like it don't come", and " we have a crisis in confidence", and then nothing changes.

I hope he's learnt from the silly arrogant comments, because at the minute I don't want to see him go, but after those comments last time I wanted him gone.

It was very unclear who the repeated I don't care what they think comments were aimed at, I just hope it wasn't at the fans, as he should care, if he loses the fans, he loses his job, as the owners will take note of the crowds reactions, aswell as results.

 

I think the "don't care" comments were based around tactics and set-up, which is understandable as we have 30k supporters in the ground all with different ideas about formations, personnel, style etc.

 

Maybe we could do away with the manager and everyone text in their preferred starting line up and the most popular is selected?

[Fox92]

No points are bonus points - doesn't matter if we get to 40 points by spanking the big sides and slipping up against lower sides, or by dominating lower sides and losing to the big teams, so long as we reach the 40 point mark. 

 

But they are. When we got promoted I didn't expect us to beat Manchester United. That fixture had a "0" next to it, I think even Pearson said this. 

 

I know it doesn't matter how we reach 40 points (or whatever we finish on), I agree, but there's a difference between expecting points and winning points isn't there. I mean, for example, I don't expect us to get anything at Southampton on Saturday but if we do then I'll be pleased, surprised and they'll obviously contribute to our final tally at the end of the season.

 

Again, I expected more than one point in our last five games. We've played Palace, Burnley, Newcastle, Swansea and West Brom. We should have gotten more than a point really.

[The Doctor]

But they are. When we got promoted I didn't expect us to beat Manchester United. That fixture had a "0" next to it, I think even Pearson said this. 

 

I know it doesn't matter how we reach 40 points (or whatever we finish on), I agree, but there's a difference between expecting points and winning points isn't there. I mean, for example, I don't expect us to get anything at Southampton on Saturday but if we do then I'll be pleased, surprised and they'll obviously contribute to our final tally at the end of the season.

 

Again, I expected more than one point in our last five games. We've played Palace, Burnley, Newcastle, Swansea and West Brom. We should have gotten more than a point really.

 

And now it has a 3 next to it - it doesn't matter where the points are coming from, so long as they are coming. Realistically, yes we'd be expecting to lose v Man Utd and Arsenal and get at least 4 points from Burnley & West Brom. Instead we've got 4 points from Man Utd & Arsenal, and just the one from Burnley & West Brom - but we've still got the points. The premier league won't turn round at the end of May and say "Well, you finished 1 point above QPR in 18th, but your points came against the top 7, so they don't count - back to the championship you go". 

Doesn't matter where you expect to get points. If we expect a draw against Southampton and a win vs Sunderland, and instead beat Southampton and draw vs Sunderland, then we've not got the points we expected - we've dropped 2 that we expected to pick up, but we've still got the same amount of points out of it. This bonus points nonsense is just utter crap.

 

Would I want to have done better these last 5? Of course - I think if we'd played like we did against Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal then we'd be in the european spots at the moment, but we've still got the points. If we'd sneaked a draw against Stoke and lost the other 4, then drawn vs Palace & Newcastle, and beaten Burnley and West Brom - we'd have been no better off, but this "pearson out" crap wouldn't be happening.

[foxfanazer]

If it wasn't my club I'd love us to get Pulis in just to spite some of you and show you up for the idiots you are

[Guest ttfn]

And now it has a 3 next to it - it doesn't matter where the points are coming from, so long as they are coming. Realistically, yes we'd be expecting to lose v Man Utd and Arsenal and get at least 4 points from Burnley & West Brom. Instead we've got 4 points from Man Utd & Arsenal, and just the one from Burnley & West Brom - but we've still got the points. The premier league won't turn round at the end of May and say "Well, you finished 1 point above QPR in 18th, but your points came against the top 7, so they don't count - back to the championship you go".

Doesn't matter where you expect to get points. If we expect a draw against Southampton and a win vs Sunderland, and instead beat Southampton and draw vs Sunderland, then we've not got the points we expected - we've dropped 2 that we expected to pick up, but we've still got the same amount of points out of it. This bonus points nonsense is just utter crap.

Would I want to have done better these last 5? Of course - I think if we'd played like we did against Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal then we'd be in the european spots at the moment, but we've still got the points. If we'd sneaked a draw against Stoke and lost the other 4, then drawn vs Palace & Newcastle, and beaten Burnley and West Brom - we'd have been no better off, but this "pearson out" crap wouldn't be happening.

I do agree with what you're saying in principle, but that freak own goal yesterday was a 3 point swing in our battle with West Brom who will likely be I the bottom six at the end of the season.

A draw against Arsenal is 1 point closer to safety - a defeat against West Brom is falling 3 points further behind a rival.

[Monsell1976]

I think the "don't care" comments were based around tactics and set-up, which is understandable as we have 30k supporters in the ground all with different ideas about formations, personnel, style etc.

Maybe we could do away with the manager and everyone text in their preferred starting line up and the most popular is selected?

I said I didn't know who the comments were aimed at, and if you take on his comments is aimed at the 30000 then he can go, he the wrong man for me.

Quite happy to be patient with him and his mistakes, but to be arrogant and tell the fans that he doesn't care, he is clearly deluded.

He and the players are quite happy to take the money and plaudits when things go well, love it when the media and fans kiss their arses when they are winning, but the minute it gets tough, show arrogants to the fans.

So on that basis I hope he's directing at stringer or the players, as I want to cut him some slack, and hope this run comes to an end

No needs to get a texting system, have a manager that can get a side playing when results are hard to find, rather lose playing open attacking football, than lose watching the team struggle because we have tried to stop a team playing, results the same, but I would be a lot happier knowing we gave it a good go.

[Karljohn]

Says he went with 10 of the 11 that got promoted so what does this say about the new signings? Starts Nugent who has about 3 open play goals in a year, konchesky whos utter shite and leaves all wingers out. Goes on to say that some didn't work hard enough at Swansea? Well these players dreamt of the premier league didn't they...and now they're here, they dont turn up.. if this is the case then id expect they wont be back anytime soon.

[The Doctor]

I do agree with what you're saying in principle, but that freak own goal yesterday was a 3 point swing in our battle with West Brom who will likely be I the bottom six at the end of the season.

A draw against Arsenal is 1 point closer to safety - a defeat against West Brom is falling 3 points further behind a rival.

 

While I can see the point, it just seems like people are finding excuses to grind their axe - Yes, when we came into the season we looked at where the points would come, and marked out games like this, like Burnley, like Crystal palace, as games to pick up points in. Still, if we lose to West Brom and beat Man Utd, we've still got roughly the same amount of points we'd expect. It seems like people are getting too worked up about who the points come against - we're not going to get relegated because we took 20 points from the top 6 and only 12 from the bottom 6 - we could be justifiably disappointed, because that sort of form against the top six should be top half form, but so long as we make 40 points I couldn't care less if we take 4-6 points from the manchester clubs, liverpool, arsenal, everton and spurs, and 2-3 from Burnley, QPR, sunderland and west brom.

 

Says he went with 10 of the 11 that got promoted so what does this say about the new signings? Starts Nugent who has about 3 open play goals in a year, konchesky whos utter shite and leaves all wingers out. Goes on to say that some didn't work hard enough at Swansea? Well these players dreamt of the premier league didn't they...and now they're here, they dont turn up.. if this is the case then id expect they wont be back anytime soon.

 

Konch was poor, no doubt - but realistically who do we replace him with? Schlupp was defensively naive last season, and we've not really got any other left-back options

[Happy Fox]

While I can see the point, it just seems like people are finding excuses to grind their axe - Yes, when we came into the season we looked at where the points would come, and marked out games like this, like Burnley, like Crystal palace, as games to pick up points in. Still, if we lose to West Brom and beat Man Utd, we've still got roughly the same amount of points we'd expect. It seems like people are getting too worked up about who the points come against - we're not going to get relegated because we took 20 points from the top 6 and only 12 from the bottom 6 - we could be justifiably disappointed, because that sort of form against the top six should be top half form, but so long as we make 40 points I couldn't care less if we take 4-6 points from the manchester clubs, liverpool, arsenal, everton and spurs, and 2-3 from Burnley, QPR, sunderland and west brom.

 

 

Konch was poor, no doubt - but realistically who do we replace him with? Schlupp was defensively naive last season, and we've not really got any other left-back options

 

The rate we are going we are going to end up with 34 points which won't be good enough. Clearly we need to get back to winning ways sooner rather than later.

[LCFC Rennie]

If it wasn't my club I'd love us to get Pulis in just to spite some of you and show you up for the idiits you are

Sorry but nothing is funnier than when someone spells idiot wrong.

[foxfanazer]

Sorry but nothing is funnier than when someone spells idiot wrong.

Clearly a typo you idiut

[hornyhollthefox123]

I've never doubted NP, but yesterday is the first time i have felt genuinely concerned with his selections, tactics & decisions.

 

Quite simply we were 1-0 down after 78 minutes and Vardy nor Mahrez (our only two players in the 18 who can beat a defender) weren't on the pitch. 

 

I cannot possibly understand what NP thinks we are going to create.

 

The point has been made so many times but i just can't see how NP can't understand. 8 points from 5 games against top sides playing positively and attacking sides. 1 point from 5 games against bottom half sides playing to the oppositions tactics.

 

We can still have the same number of bodies in midfield by playing 4-4-1-1. Clearly he wanted Cambiasso to mark Sessegnon yesterday, but beyond that stop bloody shi*tting yourself of the opposition. Wisdom & Pocognoli are the worst set of full backs we have played against by a distance this season and if there was ever a game for Knockaert/Schlupp & Mahrez to start this was it.

 

No great surprise that the first time we have got good options wide we have our most successful period in ten years (last year).

 

That's how we destroyed sides last year.

 

So please Nige for the love of god go back to 4-4-1-1 and make teams worry about us! Not the other way around!

 

Once again, i'll be there next week but we will continue getting nothing if we set up as we have.

[Corky]

I said I didn't know who the comments were aimed at, and if you take on his comments is aimed at the 30000 then he can go, he the wrong man for me.

Quite happy to be patient with him and his mistakes, but to be arrogant and tell the fans that he doesn't care, he is clearly deluded.

He and the players are quite happy to take the money and plaudits when things go well, love it when the media and fans kiss their arses when they are winning, but the minute it gets tough, show arrogants to the fans.

So on that basis I hope he's directing at stringer or the players, as I want to cut him some slack, and hope this run comes to an end

No needs to get a texting system, have a manager that can get a side playing when results are hard to find, rather lose playing open attacking football, than lose watching the team struggle because we have tried to stop a team playing, results the same, but I would be a lot happier knowing we gave it a good go.

 

He wasn't saying he didn't care for the supporters and their backing, I think Stringer asked him a question about the tactics and what the fans wanted or said and Pearson said that he didn't care, I presume because everyone has different opinions and ideas and choosing one fan's idea over another isn't going to happen. 

 

He's a manager who doesn't hide when the going gets tough, at least he turns up to interviews unlike others and isn't afraid to criticise the team.