No more fence-sitting - Will We Survive?

[Brizzle Fox]

We don't need to strengthen big time at all.

Use the players we've got correctly and we'll be fine. I just can't see that happening at the moment.

I almost feel we've got too many players. Too much choice and too much scope for Pearson to make the wrong selections.

This

[suffolk fox]

We don't need to strengthen big time at all. 

 

Use the players we've got correctly and we'll be fine. I just can't see that happening at the moment.

 

I almost feel we've got too many players. Too much choice and too much scope for Pearson to make the wrong selections.

This. Interesting analysis.

Was Pearson responsible though for the signings of Simpson, Albrighton?

Makes me wonder cos neither have really had a look in? Apart from Cameos at Newcastle and the latter Palace.

Playing players in their correct positions would be a massive bonus though neither Vardy or Nugent when he plays there can play out wide. Both De Laat and Konchesky have been poor last few games yet neither get dropped?

Being stubborn doesnt help cos its ok giving players who got you into the premiership a chance but after ten games and you are in the bottom three, the table doesnt lye? Something has to change.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

We're going through a rough patch right now, had a few results gone our way we would be sitting pretty

 

But they haven't, so we aren't.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Not a chance on current form but i think we are more than capable of staying up

[tylesta]

This. Interesting analysis.

Was Pearson responsible though for the signings of Simpson, Albrighton?

Makes me wonder cos neither have really had a look in? Apart from Cameos at Newcastle and the latter Palace.

Playing players in their correct positions would be a massive bonus though neither Vardy or Nugent when he plays there can play out wide. Both De Laat and Konchesky have been poor last few games yet neither get dropped?

Being stubborn doesnt help cos its ok giving players who got you into the premiership a chance but after ten games and you are in the bottom three, the table doesnt lye? Something has to change.

is he a new signing..who had the cameo at palace

[Freesolo]

But they haven't, so we aren't.

 

yea we didn't deserve a draw with WBA? we lost to a freak own goal. And dropped 2 points to a extra time free kick from Burnley?, i think we have been a tad unlucky. Give us them 3 points and we are in 14th and this thread isn't even started

[Guest ttfn]

yea we didn't deserve a draw with WBA? we lost to a freak own goal. And dropped 2 points to a extra time free kick from Burnley?, i think we have been a tad unlucky. Give us them 3 points and we are in 14th and this thread isn't even started

Yeah but we would have lost 10,000-0 to Man United if it wasn't for that swine Clattenburg so swings and roundabouts

[MC Prussian]

This is a poll I'd usually expect on a relegation candidate forum four to five games before the end of a season.

[yorkie1999]

No chance. How are we even going to beat Sunderland or villa who will be relegation candidates themselves. I reckon qpr have got a better chance than us. But on the bright side, at least we'll get more games next season.

[foxfanazer]

I think we'll survive......just.

Things need to change though. We need to strengthen in January (lb, cam, lw)

On the flip side, and I'll probably get slated for this. Relegation isn't the end of the world! I think we'll be in a muvh better shape than we have been in previous relegation campaigns and I'd tip us to bounce back. Maybe we'll have a few yo yo years before establishing ourselves in the top flight. I think we are about the 17th to the 20th best side in the country so maybe this is to be expected

[Livid]

After our last two home performances against two poor sides i'm afraid it's a no from me.

 

A close thing but I just think that the three that came up will be the three that go down.

 

I hope i'm wrong.

[BoyJones]

I am going for lucky 13th position this year. Reckon there are seven teams who could / should end up below us:

 

Burnley

QPR

Crystal Palace

Sunderland

West Brom

Hull City

Aston Villa

[LCFC Rennie]

By the skin of our teeth.

[The Horse's Mouth]

currently I doubt it, but we're not even half way through the season ffs

[Thracian]

Having been a win away from a top six place after five games it's hard to stomach our performances since.

DeLaet says we deserved a point Saturday but you deserve nothing for failing to score and we're making a habit of that.

Worst of all is that our approach to those last five games has been almost submisssive instead of efforvescent as it should be.

I was convinced we had enough to manage until we let Dyer go but we've not replaced the guy and I'm not at all convinced that our close season signings have strengthened us in any notable way except perhaps in depth.

So we're trying to survive with little more than a Championship-standard side and a manager who's approach is to pinch points rather than to attack with pace and width and score some goals.

We've no chance of surviving that way so there's two choices. Either play with some attitude - and players who can make things happen - or just continue with damage limitation and hope there's three teams worse than us.

I don't think there will be unless we make some serious signings in the January window and why would that be likely to happen if we're in the bottom three?

Teams like Swansea and Southampton have shown the way. Pass, move and make chances. We've not got, or don't use,  nearly enough players who do any of that.             

[Aixelsyd]

I keep changing my mind about this.

 

OK.... I say YES to survival 

 

 

Relegated will be Burnley, Crystal Palace & Aston Villa

 

 

 

QPR to survive due to an offensively large amount of money being once again thrown most away by Owner & Manager there..... BUT it will just be enough.

[Dan]

Having been a win away from a top six place after five games it's hard to stomach our performances since.

DeLaet says we deserved a point Saturday but you deserve nothing for failing to score and we're making a habit of that.

Worst of all is that our approach to those last five games has been almost submisssive instead of efforvescent as it should be.

I was convinced we had enough to manage until we let Dyer go but we've not replaced the guy and I'm not at all convinced that our close season signings have strengthened us in any notable way except perhaps in depth.

So we're trying to survive with little more than a Championship-standard side and a manager who's approach is to pinch points rather than to attack with pace and width and score some goals.

We've no chance of surviving that way so there's two choices. Either play with some attitude - and players who can make things happen - or just continue with damage limitation and hope there's three teams worse than us.

I don't think there will be unless we make some serious signings in the January window and why would that be likely to happen if we're in the bottom three?

Teams like Swansea and Southampton have shown the way. Pass, move and make chances. We've not got, or don't use,  nearly enough players who do any of that.             

 

A Championship standard side doesn't get 102 points, they get about 60.

[suffolk fox]

A Championship standard side doesn't get 102 points, they get about 60.

Dan, come on that was last season means naff all this

[Guy]

It's extremely difficult to realistically tell at the moment as it's a loooong season and things can soon change again for the better in just a month's time - let's hope! This, despite an eminently forgettable past month for us of course.

 

We'll obviously know more by Christmas - although look at Palace last season as the bottom team at Christmas, they comfortably survived in the end! I predicted we'd finish 13th at the start of the season and will stick my neck out and stick with that, meanign a yes obviously! Even that looked a slightly gloomy prediction after the Man United game but now it looks a tad optimistic. This is how quickly things can change in football of course. Although Burnley looked doomed already (by their own admissions in many regards too), you still can't say who's going to do what at this stage, Sunderland upset the odds on Monday for instance after a horrid run. This is why we love the game I guess!

[Kitchandro]

Having been a win away from a top six place after five games it's hard to stomach our performances since.

DeLaet says we deserved a point Saturday but you deserve nothing for failing to score and we're making a habit of that.

Worst of all is that our approach to those last five games has been almost submisssive instead of efforvescent as it should be.

I was convinced we had enough to manage until we let Dyer go but we've not replaced the guy and I'm not at all convinced that our close season signings have strengthened us in any notable way except perhaps in depth.

So we're trying to survive with little more than a Championship-standard side and a manager who's approach is to pinch points rather than to attack with pace and width and score some goals.

We've no chance of surviving that way so there's two choices. Either play with some attitude - and players who can make things happen - or just continue with damage limitation and hope there's three teams worse than us.

I don't think there will be unless we make some serious signings in the January window and why would that be likely to happen if we're in the bottom three?

Teams like Swansea and Southampton have shown the way. Pass, move and make chances. We've not got, or don't use,  nearly enough players who do any of that.             

 

I'm with you up to the point where you think Dyer is the saviour.

 

Come off it.

[foxfanazer]

It's extremely difficult to realistically tell at the moment as it's a loooong season and things can soon change again for the better in just a month's time - let's hope! This, despite an eminently forgettable past month for us of course.

We'll obviously know more by Christmas - although look at Palace last season as the bottom team at Christmas, they comfortably survived in the end! I predicted we'd finish 13th at the start of the season and will stick my neck out and stick with that, meanign a yes obviously! Even that looked a slightly gloomy prediction after the Man United game but now it looks a tad optimistic. This is how quickly things can change in football of course. Although Burnley looked doomed already (by their own admissions in many regards too), you still can't say who's going to do what at this stage, Sunderland upset the odds on Monday for instance after a horrid run. This is why we love the game I guess!

Good post

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

This is a poll I'd usually expect on a relegation candidate forum four to five games before the end of a season.

I totally agree. It is far too early to make a constructive response, this early in the season.

 

I am, "sitting on the fence."

[Thracian]

A Championship standard side doesn't get 102 points, they get about 60.

 

 

I didn't say "a Championship standard side" though, did I?. You just quoted the bit that was convenient. You should have been a politician.

[Thracian]

I'm with you up to the point where you think Dyer is the saviour.

 

Come off it.

 

 

People forget that Dyer always needed marking and often took the attention of a second, covering defender as well, thus creating more space for others. It's not so much that Dyer would have been the saviour as the fact that he simply wasn't replaced. A left flank of Schlupp behind Dyer would have been a potential threat to anyone - but instead we now play matches without any left-sided threat at all. It's ridiculous.      

[Guest Col city fan]

People forget that Dyer always needed marking and often took the attention of a second, covering defender as well, thus creating more space for others. It's not so much that Dyer would have been the saviour as the fact that he simply wasn't replaced. A left flank of Schlupp behind Dyer would have been a potential threat to anyone - but instead we now play matches without any left-sided threat at all. It's ridiculous.

Spot on. Dyer's runs made space for the strikers. However, he's gone.