Guest Col city fan Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 Lots of people talking already about what we'd do in the Championship, who we'd keep etc. For God's sake people, have a bit of faith.. we arent half way thru the season yet! Still lots of football to be played before we are resigned to going down!
v6rat Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 I'm amazed at the number of people that believe that we will get promoted straight back up into the Premiership should we be relegated this season, whether with Pearson or not. The championship is one of the toughest divisions in Europe to win, did anyone think that Bournemouth would be top at Christmas? The prem historically is won by any one of four teams, the championship is any one from at least a dozen teams pushing for promotion. Parachute payments or not, relegation for the Thai owners is a disaster.
Happy Fox Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 I'm amazed at the number of people that believe that we will get promoted straight back up into the Premiership should we be relegated this season, whether with Pearson or not. The championship is one of the toughest divisions in Europe to win, did anyone think that Bournemouth would be top at Christmas? The prem historically is won by any one of four teams, the championship is any one from at least a dozen teams pushing for promotion. Parachute payments or not, relegation for the Thai owners is a disaster. Agreed, and also the phycological impact of relegation it is hard to get over, just like when we lost in the playoffs players would have to galvanise themselves and use that negativity like losing in the playoffs at Watford to turn it into a positive i.e winning the championship at a canter, it's doable but anyway lets worry about it when we get relegated.
MC Prussian Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 I'm amazed at the number of people that believe that we will get promoted straight back up into the Premiership should we be relegated this season, whether with Pearson or not. The championship is one of the toughest divisions in Europe to win, did anyone think that Bournemouth would be top at Christmas? The prem historically is won by any one of four teams, the championship is any one from at least a dozen teams pushing for promotion. Parachute payments or not, relegation for the Thai owners is a disaster. I don't see anyone saying we would get promoted directly straightaway, but that we'd have a much better chance of doing so. Bournemouth are on a high right now, and Brentford's current form is impressive, too. But that's two smaller teams surprising everyone (on a positive note) at the moment. Just like you said - it's a tough and competitive league. Anything can happen until May. Personally, I don't think relegation would be a "disaster" for our owners. So far, all they've said is that they wanted to reach the Premier League (which the club has achieved) and establish Leicester City on that level in the long run. They never mentioned the timespan or strategy it would take to get there. Surely, a sensible relegation scenario is on their radar, too.
leicesterseddon Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 I find it hard to know for certain how I feel about Pearson's performance this season - mainly because I don't think we know everything about what's happening behind the scenes. It seems clear now that although the players we have are doing their best, and although we still seem to have some togetherness and team spirit about us, our squad of players collectively is not up to the standard required by this league. Given this, it's not surprising that thoughts will turn to our transfer policy over the summer. Many of us at the time worried that we hadn't brought in enough players, hadn't spent enough money, didn't have enough Premier League experience in the squad. Why was this? Was it because Pearson overestimated (as a lot of us did, to be fair) the ability of his own players? Was he complacent? Or was it simply that, having never managed a team in the PL before, he simply didn't know (and how could he)? Or...did he want to sign more players and was told that he couldn't, either by the Robinson or the board? I find it hard to make a judgement until we know more about this. If Pearson underestimated the league - then that's his error of judgement/lack of experience. If he was told he could only bring in one £5m+ player and had to scrimp by on freebies and low-money transfers, perhaps we need to start asking different questions.
buzzy Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 I don't see anyone saying we would get promoted directly straightaway, but that we'd have a much better chance of doing so. Bournemouth are on a high right now, and Brentford's current form is impressive, too. But that's two smaller teams surprising everyone (on a positive note) at the moment. Just like you said - it's a tough and competitive league. Anything can happen until May. Personally, I don't think relegation would be a "disaster" for our owners. So far, all they've said is that they wanted to reach the Premier League (which the club has achieved) and establish Leicester City on that level in the long run. They never mentioned the timespan or strategy it would take to get there. Surely, a sensible relegation scenario is on their radar, too. you must be nigel pearson under another name so i am going to say have a nice christmas but **** off know. you dont think relegation would be a disaster my god what the **** are you on. going down is a disaster and alot of you think we will come straight back up. you lot need to get in the real world and stop spouting shit. relegation would not be a disaster quote of the dayby the city fans who have supported city from the nineties
BigMicky Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 you must be nigel pearson under another name so i am going to say have a nice christmas but **** off know. you dont think relegation would be a disaster my god what the **** are you on. going down is a disaster and alot of you think we will come straight back up. you lot need to get in the real world and stop spouting shit. relegation would not be a disaster quote of the dayby the city fans who have supported city from the nineties Do you know what the owners plans are over the short/medium/long term? Do you not think they have factored in the possibility of relegation then?
nettle Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 What I don't understand on this forum is if you say anything negative about Nigel Pearson you get shouted down by the same old people straight away. Surely everyone's opinion should count that's the idea of the forum. I support Leicester city not the manager and to be fair he's done a good job up to going into the premiership, but let's be honest he's made a pigs ear of it so far and I can't see him taking us any further. Unfortunately I think his level was the championship it's just a step to far.
filbertway Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 Do you know what the owners plans are over the short/medium/long term? Do you not think they have factored in the possibility of relegation then? From what I can gather, if you're upset with Nigel, if we go down, we're selling the whole squad and signing league two players players. Preparing for another decade meandering around outside the top flight. On the flip side, if you back Nigel then you're extremely confident we'd bounce back right away with the majority of the team that came down and was promoted two seasons before,
Stan Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 What I don't understand on this forum is if you say anything negative about Nigel Pearson you get shouted down by the same old people straight away. Surely everyone's opinion should count that's the idea of the forum. I support Leicester city not the manager and to be fair he's done a good job up to going into the premiership, but let's be honest he's made a pigs ear of it so far and I can't see him taking us any further. Unfortunately I think his level was the championship it's just a step to far. You must be talking about a different forum. I suspect there's a lot of people (me included) who simply don't bother posting anymore as the forum seems to have been invaded by a particularly depressing variety of posters, coinciding with our poor run of form. Anyone who posts anything remotely positive seems to get shot down in flames with a stream of posts along the lines of 'we're shit', 'the worst Leicester team ever', 'we'll never win another game', etc.
nettle Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 You must be talking about a different forum. I suspect there's a lot of people (me included) who simply don't bother posting anymore as the forum seems to have been invaded by a particularly depressing variety of posters, coinciding with our poor run of form. Anyone who posts anything remotely positive seems to get shot down in flames with a stream of posts along the lines of 'we're shit', 'the worst Leicester team ever', 'we'll never win another game', etc. We will have to agree to differ on that one because I think it's the other way round. People are going to be a bit negative because of the results we are having after such a good season when we won the championship surely people can't be happy with results?
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 What I don't understand on this forum is if you say anything negative about Nigel Pearson you get shouted down by the same old people straight away. Surely everyone's opinion should count that's the idea of the forum. I support Leicester city not the manager and to be fair he's done a good job up to going into the premiership, but let's be honest he's made a pigs ear of it so far and I can't see him taking us any further. Unfortunately I think his level was the championship it's just a step to far. I've never got the extremes. I never understand this about football fans. It happens both for the team per se and for individual players. It makes no sense...... There is still over half a season of football left to play. Yet some people seem to be planning for NEXT season. Why? Who the fook knows where we will be next season? We have no idea who might be in charge. We don't know if we will win the next two games, let alone lose them. The Thais could quit? Who knows... It's the same with the players...Cambiasso oozes quality, Schlupp is shite... Kasper is a liability whereas Hamer will do a job.... Etc etc... After a win or two, some said we'd 'make Europe', now some say (and even some of the SAME people) that we are 'destined for relegation'. Extremes from some posters...it's been like this for years on here, so I'm not surprised. But I still don't understand it.
filbertway Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 We will have to agree to differ on that one because I think it's the other way round. People are going to be a bit negative because of the results we are having after such a good season when we won the championship surely people can't be happy with results? To be honest, there are overly negative and overly positive people both sounding as ridiculous as each other, though the overly positive ones sound more ridiculous considering the recent form. There seems to be a minority of people who are reasoned and keeping things in perspective. I'm pro Pearson but respect some of the posts against him as they're well argued and reasonable.
nettle Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 I've never got the extremes. I never understand this about football fans. It happens both for the team per se and for individual players. It makes no sense...... There is still over half a season of football left to play. Yet some people seem to be planning for NEXT season. Why? Who the fook knows where we will be next season? We have no idea who might be in charge. We don't know if we will win the next two games, let alone lose them. The Thais could quit? Who knows... It's the same with the players...Cambiasso oozes quality, Schlupp is shite... Kasper is a liability whereas Hamer will do a job.... Etc etc... After a win or two, some said we'd 'make Europe', now some say (and even some of the SAME people) that we are 'destined for relegation'. Extremes from some posters...it's been like this for years on here, so I'm not surprised. But I still don't understand it. I'm usually pretty positive about Leicester to be fair. I go with my brother and he's the most negative bloke I know but he was saying the other night let's stick with Pearson which I was surprised by. I obviously don't agree with him but that's football I guess.
MC Prussian Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 you must be nigel pearson under another name so i am going to say have a nice christmas but **** off know. you dont think relegation would be a disaster my god what the **** are you on. going down is a disaster and alot of you think we will come straight back up. you lot need to get in the real world and stop spouting shit. relegation would not be a disaster quote of the dayby the city fans who have supported city from the ninetiesGetting relegated to League One was a disaster (although the League One season in itself was a great experience in terms of fans' expectations and a revelation in terms of support).The club being on the brink of extinction some ten years ago was a disaster. We'd have a much more solid foundation to fall back onto in case of another relegation to the Championship. Merry Christmas, buzzy.
foxfanazer Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 I've never got the extremes. I never understand this about football fans. It happens both for the team per se and for individual players. It makes no sense...... There is still over half a season of football left to play. Yet some people seem to be planning for NEXT season. Why? Who the fook knows where we will be next season? We have no idea who might be in charge. We don't know if we will win the next two games, let alone lose them. The Thais could quit? Who knows... It's the same with the players...Cambiasso oozes quality, Schlupp is shite... Kasper is a liability whereas Hamer will do a job.... Etc etc... After a win or two, some said we'd 'make Europe', now some say (and even some of the SAME people) that we are 'destined for relegation'. Extremes from some posters...it's been like this for years on here, so I'm not surprised. But I still don't understand it. You know me Col, I'm one of the optimists and would like to see Nige stay. I still however think it would irresponsible (from the owners side) to not prepare for the possibility of relegation. Chucking money at it in January seems risky to me and provides no guarantee of safety. There's always that hope we can stay up but I just can't see us putting a string of results together
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 Lots of people talking already about what we'd do in the Championship, who we'd keep etc. For God's sake people, have a bit of faith.. we arent half way thru the season yet! Still lots of football to be played before we are resigned to going down! This, well said Col
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 You know me Col, I'm one of the optimists and would like to see Nige stay. I still however think it would irresponsible (from the owners side) to not prepare for the possibility of relegation. Chucking money at it in January seems risky to me and provides no guarantee of safety. There's always that hope we can stay up but I just can't see us putting a string of results together Nor can I mate to be honest..but that's not the same as saying we are doomed, is it. Too many people already giving up IMO.
Stan Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 We will have to agree to differ on that one because I think it's the other way round. People are going to be a bit negative because of the results we are having after such a good season when we won the championship surely people can't be happy with results? I can't say I'm ecstatic about the results - when your team gives you sleepless nights, it's never good. However, I don't see a team that's given up the ghost despite what's being said on internet forums. If this team plays with anything like the freedom and confidence we had for most of last season, it will be enough to see us squeak home.
MC Prussian Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 Nor can I mate to be honest..but that's not the same as saying we are doomed, is it. Too many people already giving up IMO.Pondering a relegation scenario doesn't mean people are giving up already.
Stadt Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 Nor can I mate to be honest..but that's not the same as saying we are doomed, is it. Too many people already giving up IMO.The defeatist attitude surrounding the club won't help an already struggling squad, I think relegation is likely but there's still another 63 points to play for, so to see that some supporters have written the season off is a bit worrying.
shade Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 I can't say I'm ecstatic about the results - when your team gives you sleepless nights, it's never good. However, I don't see a team that's given up the ghost despite what's being said on internet forums. If this team plays with anything like the freedom and confidence we had for most of last season, it will be enough to see us squeak home. you have sleepless nights over leicester or is that just a figure of speech?
Harry - LCFC Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 Nor can I mate to be honest..but that's not the same as saying we are doomed, is it. Too many people already giving up IMO. It gets on my nerves to be honest. Making up five points over 21 games is far from an impossible task. There must be countless examples of teams making up that kind of ground.
foxinsocks Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 IMO the club's response will be balanced (£20 or £30 Million - if they have it) - it makes sense to try to stay in the PL; but spending depends on who they can buy and if such purchases will be significant to change things. (...Suppose spending a bit of money might add 5 points?) But they still have to fix the issues with the tactical, organisation and mojo of the existing players and management. I do believe that they should be putting energy in to helping Nigel to devise a route to fixing things - even with one or two new players we will still be reliant on the current squad and Nigel has to sort out the issues (defending and going forward) and halting the mistakes. I have previously said that In business you often have to "fix" someone who is failing rather then just replace them (...to much trouble) - but it has been pointed out that Nigel's ego night make this hard... but if he really wants to turn thing around then this would be the best route. Bottom line is we must fight to stay in the PL - we're have half a season and I do not think it is too late. What sort of fans settle for life in the championship? - we must dig in and support the club to overcome the current difficulties. IT's not over
Stan Posted 24 December 2014 Posted 24 December 2014 you have sleepless nights over leicester or is that just a figure of speech? I wish it was!
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