Monsell1976 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Simply not true. An element of our fans would still hate the bloke if he kept us up and won the FA Cup.I can only speak for myself, and my group of city fans friends, but couldn't give a **** who keeps us up, or at least makes a fist of it, as long as we see better than we have.I'm more than happy for Pearson to be the manager, but I'm a city fan first, no excuses the results have been awful, and yes the season was always going to be hard, but the results, and repeated mistakes, and not competing at this level, isn't acceptable. As I say, after the Liverpool game, and with hopefully with new signings, I hope we put some points on the board, and at least compete at this level. Any run like the last one after Liverpool, will not be acceptable in my eyes, even as a promoted side, 17th place is do able with the teams around the bottom, which is proven after 5 out of 39 points, we are not dead and buried, but we need to get results, that's what all employed are payed to do, go on a bad run again, sorry he would have to go.
ealingfox Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Many of us are convinced that 90% of the Pearson lovers are under 50 and love him more than the club. Those of us who are more mature stopped having crushes years ago and are thus capable of taking a more realistic view of things. You are an idiot.
Dickov22 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 He certainly seems to believe that he knows best and reacts in an appalling manner when questioned (foad and telling fans not to turn up if they don't like it). Having said that managers should believe they know best. He was right on both occasions in my opinion.
Bettsj2 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Absoloutly anyone with any real candidates apart from Tony Pulis, then please put them forward. I won't accept anyone without prem experience, I also won't accept managers who have been in charge of a team that has beeb relegated either... So come on draw up that list......... Tim Sherwood Michael Laudrup Glen Hoddle Alan Curbishley Roberto Di Matteo Martin O'Neill Ruud Gullit Jean Tigana
Dickov22 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Tim Sherwood Michael Laudrup Glen Hoddle Alan Curbishley Roberto Di Matteo Martin O'Neill Ruud Gullit Jean Tigana Only one id want would be MON
teblin Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Tim Sherwood Michael Laudrup Glen Hoddle Alan Curbishley Roberto Di Matteo Martin O'Neill Ruud Gullit Jean Tigana That list other than Mon shows why we should stick with Nigel.
Bettsj2 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 That list other than Mon shows why we should stick with Nigel. All opinion so fair enough. If you add Pulis then there's 4 that I think could do better than Pearson but I think its all irrelevant anyway. Pearson would be gone by now if he was going to go. The victory at Hull hopefully will be a shot in the arm. If we can avoid a defeat to Liverpool it will be a very good situation for NP to be in with the games coming up.
The Doctor Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Tim Sherwood Michael Laudrup Glen Hoddle Alan Curbishley Roberto Di Matteo Martin O'Neill Ruud Gullit Jean Tigana Curbishley, tigana and Gullit have been out of the game for ages, so has hoddle and his managerial record isn't great anyway, laudrup and di Matteo would be reasonable, and MON never goes back - as for sherwood, is he actually any good? That list is pretty uninspiring.
ealingfox Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Tim Sherwood Michael Laudrup Glen Hoddle Alan Curbishley Roberto Di Matteo Martin O'Neill Ruud Gullit Jean Tigana Sherwood - Arguably fair enough but still an unknown quantity. Laudrup - Wouldn't come here and wouldn't keep us up. Hoddle - Hopefully you were joking with that one. Curbishley - Isn't a manager any more. Di Matteo - Yeah I'm sure he'd be willing to sack off Schalke and the Champions League last 16 for us. O'Neill - Currently has a job and isn't the O'Neill that we know any more. Gullit - Had a good year, as a player-manager, in 1997. Has had 5 jobs in 18 years in 'management' and has never lasted more than 18 months in those 5 jobs. Hoping this one was a joke too. Tigana - Was last here over a decade ago and been sacked from his last 2 jobs for being shite. People honestly wonder why the Pearson Out arguments are derided so much? This list is terrible!
cityfanlee23 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Why would a new manager have to come from the out of work list? Why don't we just go for a manager at another club if we are going to replace nige?
BigMicky Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Why would a new manager have to come from the out of work list? Why don't we just go for a manager at another club if we are going to replace nige? Like who? Why would a new manager have to come from the out of work list? Why don't we just go for a manager at another club if we are going to replace nige? Like who?
hackneyfox Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 He was right on both occasions in my opinion. I can understand the foad comment but you should never tell fans to stay away.
Bettsj2 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Sherwood - Arguably fair enough but still an unknown quantity. Laudrup - Wouldn't come here and wouldn't keep us up. Hoddle - Hopefully you were joking with that one. Curbishley - Isn't a manager any more. Di Matteo - Yeah I'm sure he'd be willing to sack off Schalke and the Champions League last 16 for us. O'Neill - Currently has a job and isn't the O'Neill that we know any more. Gullit - Had a good year, as a player-manager, in 1997. Has had 5 jobs in 18 years in 'management' and has never lasted more than 18 months in those 5 jobs. Hoping this one was a joke too. Tigana - Was last here over a decade ago and been sacked from his last 2 jobs for being shite. People honestly wonder why the Pearson Out arguments are derided so much? This list is terrible! The question was for a list of managers with Prem experience that were not relegated from the division. The list is of 8 managers with better Prem records than Pearson (Pulis was excluded so the list should he 9 if he was in it).
ealingfox Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 The question was for a list of managers with Prem experience that were not relegated from the division. The list is of 8 managers with better Prem records than Pearson (Pulis was excluded so the list should he 9 if he was in it). No, the question was for a list of realistic replacements for Pearson within the parameters of experience and no relegations. Only 1 of your list is a realistic replacement for Pearson, and that's Sherwood, who won his games against teams in the bottom half with a squad worth hundreds of millions for half a season.
Guest Col city fan Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 I doubt Pearson will be replaced. If so, I'd have few qualms about Mick McCarthy coming to Leicester. I like him, I like how he comes across. He's failed in the Prem before yes, but that doesn't preclude giving someone a second go. He's turned around Ipswich on a small budget and can motivate. He would also possibly look to bring a couple of players with him.
Bettsj2 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 No, the question was for a list of realistic replacements for Pearson within the parameters of experience and no relegations. Only 1 of your list is a realistic replacement for Pearson, and that's Sherwood, who won his games against teams in the bottom half with a squad worth hundreds of millions for half a season. I wouldnt say any of the 8 were unrealistic (again 9 if you include Pulis). Your point about Sherwood is fair, however, we've played and not beaten the teams in the bottom half (Hull excepted) so perhaps he is suited to the role?
MC Prussian Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Why would a new manager have to come from the out of work list? Why don't we just go for a manager at another club if we are going to replace nige? Provided the other clubs are willing to let their manager leave. It's not all that simple.
Durnerz Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 dbtcity, on 30 Dec 2014 - 09:52 AM, said:In all fairness we look a lot better defending set pieces this season than we did last when we weren't zonal marking Are you still drunk from Christmas? Hull could have scored 3 or 4 from set plays alone but for poor finishing, previously Clarke's goal at villa showed how crap we are at defending free kicks and corners. All because we are marking space and not players. Liverpool tried it a few seasons back and had the same results we're now seeing.
TomOliver_1990 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 So if he gets 2 out of the next 36 points, that wouldn't be criminal. Yes give him a window, but the summer showed lack of ambition in the transfer market, wether that be Pearson trusting what he had was good enough, or the owners lack of ambition with a budget run by Robinson. Nothing gives me the confidence that we can get anyone decent in this window, Pearson is already making those noises, who wants to come to us in our position, probaly championship players. The summer window was the important one, this one has a bit of, after the horse as already bolted. I didn't say anything about the points, that's already at a criminal point. I just believe that having stuck with him up until now when we could have got rid of him at the start of the month, we leave ourselves in a poor position to bring someone in now with no time to prepare any targets. I think the only person who could actually get us out of this mess who isn't managing right now would be Sir Alex, and that would be through players he could bring in with his rep alone. But that's never going to happen so we may as well stick with what we have and hope for a miracle, cos bringing in any of those muppets previously mentioned (minus MON) will see us do even worse in my opinion. At least the players now are giving their all for the boss, what's to say one of them come in and doesn't have the support of the players and the team crumbles!
ealingfox Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 I wouldnt say any of the 8 were unrealistic (again 9 if you include Pulis). Your point about Sherwood is fair, however, we've played and not beaten the teams in the bottom half (Hull excepted) so perhaps he is suited to the role? Seriously? How could you possibly think its realistic that we could prise Di Matteo from 5th place in the Bundesliga and the Champions League knockout stages? You must be on the wind-up. Most of the others are realistic because they're gagging for work having not had a manager's job for ages because they were shite.
Bettsj2 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Seriously? How could you possibly think its realistic that we could prise Di Matteo from 5th place in the Bundesliga and the Champions League knockout stages? You must be on the wind-up. Most of the others are realistic because they're gagging for work having not had a manager's job for ages because they were shite. Not sure why these conversations always have to turn aggressive. Di Matteo wont win the Champions League nor the Bundesliga. The Premier League was his home as a player and manager for many years. Our proximity to London where I would imagine a great deal of connection still exist along with the Resources and set up available here would make us an attractive proposition. Laudrup isn't gagging for work, he's managing in Qatar so again, I would think the Premiership would be more attractive in terms of career. I could go through all the others on the list but it's probably pointless. I could name other realistic options but they would be shite in your eyes too.
ealingfox Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Not sure why these conversations always have to turn aggressive. Di Matteo wont win the Champions League nor the Bundesliga. The Premier League was his home as a player and manager for many years. Our proximity to London where I would imagine a great deal of connection still exist along with the Resources and set up available here would make us an attractive proposition. Laudrup isn't gagging for work, he's managing in Qatar so again, I would think the Premiership would be more attractive in terms of career. I could go through all the others on the list but it's probably pointless. I could name other realistic options but they would be shite in your eyes too. It's hardly aggressive to think you're on the wind-up here. There are far more aggressive conclusions I wanted to come to, but I shall leave it because your second paragraph proves that you clearly can't be helped. As for the bit in bold, that's what you've tried (and failed miserably) to do in the first place so be my guest if you want to have another crack.
Jace Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Lets face it, if Pearson goes the person coming in to replace him will be Neil Lennon.
iancognito Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 Tim Sherwood Michael Laudrup Glen Hoddle Alan Curbishley Roberto Di Matteo Martin O'Neill Ruud Gullit Jean Tigana Sherwood - One management job, didn't do particularly well and lost his rag when things weren't working out Laudrup - Is a fair shout but anyone wanting a 'plan B' when things aren't working will be disappointed Hoddle - Hasn't had a serious job since England, not sure he'd actually want to be the top man again Curbishley - Hasn't been a manager for nearly 7 years. Di Matteo - As previously stated, Schalke and the Champions League etc etc MON - Hasn't got the Robertson double act anymore and I'd hate for the 90s memories to be ruined by a comeback tour. Ruud Gullit - Clutching at straws. Pearson isn't arrogant but this guy certainly is. Jean Tigana - Really? Hasn't managed for 3 years and is coming up for 60. But these are moot points because Pearson has the owners' full backing and albeit at different levels has been a more successful manager than most of the names there. I'm amazed Lennon isn't getting more mentions, by all accounts, him, Garry Parker & Mjallby are the new O'Neill, Robbo & Walford. I wouldn't box the Pearson lovers & haters into one bracket or age group but there's certainly a lot of people who have supported the club for 10-15 years who are very much in the pro camp because he's given us nothing but success. As I've always maintained, history shows that Leicester fans and football fans in general shouldn't be seen as an authority in who runs the club. From gobbing at Little, abusing MON after two months, turning on Micky Adams and now the same with Pearson (by a minority) we don't exactly cover ourselves in glory. The funniest was after Pearson's first season back where a number of idiots wrote to the Merc saying they'd give up their season tickets. Those people were oddly quiet last season and couldn't wait for a bad run this year to say how right they actually were. We're almost as fickle as the Liverpool fans who were lighting up flares to welcome the team bus in April and were calling for Rodgers out by October.
Monsell1976 Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 I didn't say anything about the points, that's already at a criminal point. I just believe that having stuck with him up until now when we could have got rid of him at the start of the month, we leave ourselves in a poor position to bring someone in now with no time to prepare any targets. I think the only person who could actually get us out of this mess who isn't managing right now would be Sir Alex, and that would be through players he could bring in with his rep alone. But that's never going to happen so we may as well stick with what we have and hope for a miracle, cos bringing in any of those muppets previously mentioned (minus MON) will see us do even worse in my opinion. At least the players now are giving their all for the boss, what's to say one of them come in and doesn't have the support of the players and the team crumbles!Your right it's to late to sack him, as I have been saying in previous posts, if the owners are not going to sack him now after the appalling run, then they are never going to sack him.Doesn't matter if someone came in and the team crumbled, 5 out of 39 points is terrible, and is not a hard target for a new manager to achieve, or get more from, given the window to bring in players, so that argument to keep him is irrelevant, it's all if's, but's and maybe's, somebody could come in and have us winning more than we lose. As I have said, I want a manager that can get us competing in the league we are in, and Pearson is failing in a big way, that's not to say I hate Pearson, just stating facts, if he improves great, if we go on another bad run like the last, then no matter who the manager is, or what they have done, cannot survive that, and would more than deserve the sack.
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