That has to be it. Pearson needs to go.

[Gary Eatfood]

Is he still here?? Geeze!?!

The only possible reason for this is the owners have been kidnapped.

There's no other logical explanation.

 

Or they still believe that he's the best man for the job and not Tony Pulis or Tim Sherwood.

[tickler28]

Or they still believe that he's the best man for the job and not Tony Pulis or Tim Sherwood.

Why is it everyone assumes they are the only options!?!

Have you ever heard of poaching...think Brian Little / Gary Megson

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Who would you appoint instead?

I would have gone for Pulis, with his Premiership experience, but even he couldn't save us now. Four weeks ago a he could have had time to see what needed to be done, and attempt to address the situation, (no guarantees, of course), but I firmly believe he would could have improved things, and targeted the right type of players in the January window, where I fear Pearson will fall flat on his face.

 

It's all too late now, methinks. 

 

People can slag me off all they like, because I don't give a toss, so keep on chaps, if that's what you want. After 55 years almost, of following this club, I am well used to know nothing knobs, that can't see beyond the end of their snotty noses, and are devoid of any use of the mental process. 

[jamesmilner]

I can honestly say I don't really know what's best for the club ,in terms of sacking Pearson or keeping him . But lets say the Thais had sacked Pearson and got in someone different at the end of last season ready for the prem league. No matter who that was , if they'd be in the position and run we are in with Pearson , we would all be calling for his head . That I have no doubt !

[Monsell1976]

I don't think it matters wether people are pro Pearson or not, if a manager goes this long with poor results, and isn't sacked, he never will be.

Let's hope Pearson will repay the owners faith in him, and bring us back up next season, as for me under current form, gap getting wider from bottom to 17 th, and not seeing us getting a win, let alone going on a run, we are down, just not mathematically.

[hackneyfox]

you're a disgrace

no appreciation

no understanding

no eyes possibly

no long term view

"even to the most pro Pearson supporter, that he had failed us"

this line sums you up. and i would be a happier human being knowing you didnt tarnish this club with your opinions as a "fan".

Personally I'm inclined to think it's the spineless fans who are holding this club back.

If we'd started complaining loudly some time ago we may have had a new manager and a chance of survival.

[The other Ollie]

I don't think it matters wether people are pro Pearson or not, if a manager goes this long with poor results, and isn't sacked, he never will be.

Let's hope Pearson will repay the owners faith in him, and bring us back up next season, as for me under current form, gap getting wider from bottom to 17 th, and not seeing us getting a win, let alone going on a run, we are down, just not mathematically.

I have to agree. I would be in the sack Nige camp....if the team had not been playing (bar one*) to their best of their abilities. These as we have seen are not good enough at this level. But they have given their all for the team and Nige.

Why the squad is weak at prem level is something I dont think we will know.. was it TR ? was it NP ? Was it funds ?

Who knows, those that do will keep it to themselves.

* Wes... come on lad get it sorted, I keep the faith, just.

[Monsell1976]

Personally I'm inclined to think it's the spineless fans who are holding this club back.

If we'd started complaining loudly some time ago we may have had a new manager and a chance of survival.

I think the fans are turning, a few chants of Pearson sort it out first half in l1, admittedly small groups, but the longer it goes on, I fear it could grow in numbers

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

I am Pro Pearson and still believe he is the best option available to us for the LONG TERM success of our football club, even if that may mean failure in the short term with regards to this season.

I do however fully accept the arguments of those who are questioning Pearson on a rational basis, weighed up the pro's and con's can believe it is time for a change. They are perfectly valid reasons for removing the manager, even if I do not believe necessarily it being the correct decision. I don't mind having a discussion with those people and arguing my case with them.

What I can't stand is the absolute morons who have been anti Pearson since the day he was appointed, and have been looking for excuses to be attempted to be proved right ever since. The people who only ever appear on the forum or on social media when we are struggling and seem to take some sort of enjoyment in us losing because it perversely 'proves their point.' The people who belittle the achievements he has achieved at this football club in his tenure, i.e 'Anyone could have gotten us out of League 1' (sure ask Leeds, Forest, Southampton etc) 'He bottled the play offs twice' (2 Penalty kicks out of his control) 'It wasn't a great achievement to get promoted with the money we had and he took too long' (Yeah right, hardly spent a penny last season.) 'He can't handle big ego's/Personalities and can't attract players.' (Beckford, Danns, Mills etc have been doing great at other clubs since he got rid haven't they? And you think many players actually sign for managers? You think Pappis Cisse has a yearning to be managed by Alan Pardew? Or Abel Hernandez is in the Steve Bruce fan club? Players move largely because of where a team is in the table and how much cash they and their agent will pocket). It's just complete bollocks and it's clear in everything that you post that you are against Pearson the man rather than the manager. He never was good enough in their eyes and they are finally being able to enjoy the fact that he is struggling and have been waiting for this for 5 years.

A debate is being had, and rightly so about his positions because at the minute results are disastrous despite positive performance in some parts. But those who are simply spouting the same old shite in every thread because they have 'never liked him' can kindly disappear back to rock in which they crawled out from.

[Tielemans63]

I am Pro Pearson and still believe he is the best option available to us for the LONG TERM success of our football club, even if that may mean failure in the short term with regards to this season.

I do however fully accept the arguments of those who are questioning Pearson on a rational basis, weighed up the pro's and con's can believe it is time for a change. They are perfectly valid reasons for removing the manager, even if I do not believe necessarily it being the correct decision. I don't mind having a discussion with those people and arguing my case with them.

What I can't stand is the absolute morons who have been anti Pearson since the day he was appointed, and have been looking for excuses to be attempted to be proved right ever since. The people who only ever appear on the forum or on social media when we are struggling and seem to take some sort of enjoyment in us losing because it perversely 'proves their point.' The people who belittle the achievements he has achieved at this football club in his tenure, i.e 'Anyone could have gotten us out of League 1' (sure ask Leeds, Forest, Southampton etc) 'He bottled the play offs twice' (2 Penalty kicks out of his control) 'It wasn't a great achievement to get promoted with the money we had and he took too long' (Yeah right, hardly spent a penny last season.) 'He can't handle big ego's/Personalities and can't attract players.' (Beckford, Danns, Mills etc have been doing great at other clubs since he got rid haven't they? And you think many players actually sign for managers? You think Pappis Cisse has a yearning to be managed by Alan Pardew? Or Abel Hernandez is in the Steve Bruce fan club? Players move largely because of where a team is in the table and how much cash they and their agent will pocket). It's just complete bollocks and it's clear in everything that you post that you are against Pearson the man rather than the manager. He never was good enough in their eyes and they are finally being able to enjoy the fact that he is struggling and have been waiting for this for 5 years.

A debate is being had, and rightly so about his positions because at the minute results are disastrous despite positive performance in some parts. But those who are simply spouting the same old shite in every thread because they have 'never liked him' can kindly disappear back to rock in which they crawled out from.

Great post. That's pretty much exactly the way I see it too.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

I don't think it matters wether people are pro Pearson or not, if a manager goes this long with poor results, and isn't sacked, he never will be.

Let's hope Pearson will repay the owners faith in him, and bring us back up next season, as for me under current form, gap getting wider from bottom to 17 th, and not seeing us getting a win, let alone going on a run, we are down, just not mathematically.

Good post Monsey

[Bettsj2]

The main problem with the long term argument is that it was used to not sack him after the play off defeat to Watford. Back then people were saying it was a year too early for us to go up and the young squad needed an extra year to become ready for the Prem.

So many times last season was it said that not going up the year before helped us. But helped us to what? Helped us to build a side capable of being relegated from the Premiership?

People have to remember that NP hasnt been in charge for a year. This season was supposed to be towards the end of the long term plan of stability in the Premiership, not resetting the clock to the position we were in when he returned (in the Championship with a squad not good enough for the Premiership).

[foxinsocks]

Like hirsty I can see the situation is debatable... and I thought nigel was the best one to get the most from our players. Yet now I am seeing us still making the same tactical and organisational errors and lapses in concentration... things that I believe a good manager should sort. But here's the thing.. there is no one in the frame. If I woke tomorrow and found that nigel was gone and Neil Lennon, say, in charge I wouldn't feel more positive. So until a better option comes along I will have to stick with nigel... hard and frustrating though it is. I hope he sorts the problems out. The good news is the players are trying hard... they just need better organisation and instruction from nigel. Then it will be the best it can be and if that's not good enough then we've done our best

[Stevosevic]

Our form:

LDLLLLDLLLLLL

Speaks for itself I think.

[theessexfox]

Were fans always this impatient, precious and desperately over-analytical or has it come about from the rise of social media? Genuine question.

 

People get too wound up by our results and eager to sack the manager - I hate us losing but after a few hours I can see the bigger picture and that we're playing at this level for the first time in 10 years, competing in performances if not in results and that it wouldn't be a disaster if we went down - life would go on, and in the long-term Pearson has built a better-run football club than we've had in a while and can continue to do so. 

[paulsherwood1]

The main problem with the long term argument is that it was used to not sack him after the play off defeat to Watford. Back then people were saying it was a year too early for us to go up and the young squad needed an extra year to become ready for the Prem.

So many times last season was it said that not going up the year before helped us. But helped us to what? Helped us to build a side capable of being relegated from the Premiership?

People have to remember that NP hasnt been in charge for a year. This season was supposed to be towards the end of the long term plan of stability in the Premiership, not resetting the clock to the position we were in when he returned (in the Championship with a squad not good enough for the Premiership).

Good point. For me this isn't about Nigel Pearson as a person. It's about ability, and doing a job. People reach a ceiling in their ability. It's obvious in some of our players, and it's also obvious in our manager. All I see is how well we are playing, great performances etc, but that's not really the point. We need results. They are not being delivered.

I also struggle with the opinion that he will be the man to lead us straight back to the premier league. We are there now, we need to stop there now. Teams that are relegated struggle. They have a losing mentality, lose best players and have a huge pressure on them in every game due to expectations.

We have one chance, to be honest it may be too late already. But you know what, I would take the gamble and get Pulis in. Why not? Surely lcfc is more important to people than NP?

[Pinfox]

I get the point we need to gamble on something... We spent 10 years getting to the prem. We have good owners who were ruthless with Sven but they have got Nigel's back for some reason. So expecting some signings in Jan, maybe a new back 4 made up of Buddhists monks...

[Guest bss9401]

At this point I would be in favour of sacking NP to give us some chance of survival. I wonder how fans of teams at the top of the CCC would react if they were told to expect a season similar to ours because they are planning for long term stability. My guess is that they would prefer to spend what they can, speculate a bit and try to pursue the rewards of staying in the PL. This is in part a hypothetical point as it would need the owners to make a statement on their targets, plans and expectations to get the fans on board. In this scenario many supporters may buy in to a plan of keeping NP. This would, of course go seriously pear shaped if we go on one of our 12+ streaks without winning and are at the bottom end of the CCC.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Our form:

LDLLLLDLLLLLL

Speaks for itself I think.

I hope you are not daring to criticize big Nige on this forum buddy

I do believe it's officially a crime to have a different opinion to a Pearsonite on this forum

[Blue_Ted]

Do me a favour, you have to be having a laugh. Why would getting rid of the manager slove anything, the team are playing good football changing the manager wont suddenly produce goals this is not the Championship! Get real we need to keep supporting and hold our nerve just like we did with O'Neil.

 

 

[Harry - LCFC]

I hope you are not daring to criticize big Nige on this forum buddy

I do believe it's officially a crime to have a different opinion to a Pearsonite on this forum

 

Total rubbish and you know it.

 

You won't be bombarded with hate or receive a ban if you speak out against him. There are bucket loads of people who do in case you hadn't noticed and they don't whine about people responding to them.

[old koppite]

At this point I would be in favour of sacking NP to give us some chance of survival. I wonder how fans of teams at the top of the CCC would react if they were told to expect a season similar to ours because they are planning for long term stability. My guess is that they would prefer to spend what they can, speculate a bit and try to pursue the rewards of staying in the PL. This is in part a hypothetical point as it would need the owners to make a statement on their targets, plans and expectations to get the fans on board. In this scenario many supporters may buy in to a plan of keeping NP. This would, of course go seriously pear shaped if we go on one of our 12+ streaks without winning and are at the bottom end of the CCC.

Good post. None of the top 6 in the ccc would want it, and neither would we this time last season. It's a little weird why there have not been louder grumblings yet - perhaps because we've not been hammered in any game, the scores have been tight and so we all blindly think the win must come in the next game.

[ronnup]

I am Pro Pearson and still believe he is the best option available to us for the LONG TERM success of our football club, even if that may mean failure in the short term with regards to this season.

I do however fully accept the arguments of those who are questioning Pearson on a rational basis, weighed up the pro's and con's can believe it is time for a change. They are perfectly valid reasons for removing the manager, even if I do not believe necessarily it being the correct decision. I don't mind having a discussion with those people and arguing my case with them.

What I can't stand is the absolute morons who have been anti Pearson since the day he was appointed, and have been looking for excuses to be attempted to be proved right ever since. The people who only ever appear on the forum or on social media when we are struggling and seem to take some sort of enjoyment in us losing because it perversely 'proves their point.' The people who belittle the achievements he has achieved at this football club in his tenure, i.e 'Anyone could have gotten us out of League 1' (sure ask Leeds, Forest, Southampton etc) 'He bottled the play offs twice' (2 Penalty kicks out of his control) 'It wasn't a great achievement to get promoted with the money we had and he took too long' (Yeah right, hardly spent a penny last season.) 'He can't handle big ego's/Personalities and can't attract players.' (Beckford, Danns, Mills etc have been doing great at other clubs since he got rid haven't they? And you think many players actually sign for managers? You think Pappis Cisse has a yearning to be managed by Alan Pardew? Or Abel Hernandez is in the Steve Bruce fan club? Players move largely because of where a team is in the table and how much cash they and their agent will pocket). It's just complete bollocks and it's clear in everything that you post that you are against Pearson the man rather than the manager. He never was good enough in their eyes and they are finally being able to enjoy the fact that he is struggling and have been waiting for this for 5 years.

A debate is being had, and rightly so about his positions because at the minute results are disastrous despite positive performance in some parts. But those who are simply spouting the same old shite in every thread because they have 'never liked him' can kindly disappear back to rock in which they crawled out from.

Totally agree. I think it's largely that people want to see a head roll because they're feeling pained. Someone should be punished!

I'm still proud of the team and the manager and if we go down if happily keep him here. Stability is constantly being proven as the key to sustainable success, and too many idiots would love to just keep sacking managers like a spoilt little emperor until we get success. It'll come I believe and I believe what NP did last year deserves backing.

people that speak about 'loyalty' scathingly and 'Pearson lovers' are the antithesis of what I feel it is to support a club.

[old koppite]

Totally agree. I think it's largely that people want to see a head roll because they're feeling pained. Someone should be punished!

I'm still proud of the team and the manager and if we go down if happily keep him here. Stability is constantly being proven as the key to sustainable success, and too many idiots would love to just keep sacking managers like a spoilt little emperor until we get success. It'll come I believe and I believe what NP did last year deserves backing.

people that speak about 'loyalty' scathingly and 'Pearson lovers' are the antithesis of what I feel it is to support a club.

I understand your points, but honestly it's not wanting someone punished for me. I just want to see us stay in the prem and don't care who is the manager. I worry if we don't, and don't come straight back up then the owners will jump ship and we will be stuck in the championship forever. At the moment it just feels like such a missed opportunity. We're nearly good enough, but never quite and hate to say we've probably go to do down the route of very hard to play against, time wasting, mean and very tight defensively. Then again, maybe too late for that as we need wins , not draws. Ah well....

[5waller5]

Were fans always this impatient, precious and desperately over-analytical or has it come about from the rise of social media? Genuine question.

 

People get too wound up by our results and eager to sack the manager - I hate us losing but after a few hours I can see the bigger picture and that we're playing at this level for the first time in 10 years, competing in performances if not in results and that it wouldn't be a disaster if we went down - life would go on, and in the long-term Pearson has built a better-run football club than we've had in a while and can continue to do so. 

 

This is just about the worst run we have ever tolerated as a club in 125 years without sacking the manager. So the genuine answer is that fans, in the old days before the internet, would have chanted "Pearson Out" long long ago .... I'm astonished that as a club and set of fans we are being this patient with the disaster that were are witnessing.