The Year Of The Fox Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 We only won yesterday because Pearson was on the touchline and then gave an insightful post match interview
dedlock Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 What NP has done has been a quiet revolution to drag our club into the 21st century. What is called 'Belvoir Drive' was a sports ground with access down a narrow unadopted lane from B.D. Before NP arrived LCFC had acquired some adjacent sports fields When MM was our owner there was talk of a move to Loughboro Uni. to take advantage of their facilities.Prime residential building land might then have been available. Before our present owners,it was touch and go whether we would have our own training facility.Who knows what went on before NP left for Hull? Since his return we have built a sport science based facility that has already shown good results and,hopefully will continue to
Guest Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 That's down to the DOF you should know that by now nothing to do with Nigey he hasn't put a foot wrong yet.
ealingfox Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Then we haven't learnt a valuable lesson have we? Yeah imagine what might have happened if we learnt our lesson and sacked Pearson after the awful run in 12/13.
inckley fox Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Yeah imagine what might have happened if we learnt our lesson and sacked Pearson after the awful run in 12/13. It's impossible to say. If we'd have fired him in April 2013 then the next day the new manager would have been among the favourites for promotion that season, and then again - had we made our move in the summer - the club would still have been among the favourites for 2014. It's easy to get bogged down with 'what ifs', whether you're behind NP or not. In truth, he did take us up eventually, so you could say he did his job. I'm sure there's someone out there who would have done it sooner, and more still would never have done it at all. As for Taylor, our fans were stung - and probably still are - by O'Neill's criticism of them for their insanity after the Sheffield United game. We were reluctant to jump the gun when we clearly should have. The same probably goes for Adams in 03-04 when we should have seen his glaring inadequacies and never allowed him a second successive summer of scattergun transfer policy, or Holloway in Jan 08 when Mandaric thought twice, or Sven after his late-season slump in 2011. You could argue that, because some silly sods made the wrong call for a boss to leave in 96, we as a whole didn't make the RIGHT call for a boss to leave in subsequent seasons. But this is with the benefit of hindsight. MC Prussian made a good point, that you can only ever really assess a manager's reign with the benefit of hindsight. Pearson's second spell could see us go down, fall apart, the board pull the plug, our best chance of serious success dashed... or it could see survival, or a profitable restructuring, which sees us in good shape for years to come.
Guest Col city fan Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Again, I think this may all be pretty immaterial now. Pearson is going nowhere I suspect. I get the feeling the owners are giving him the season. We can argue whether this is right or wrong till the cows come home. Just get behind the team and see what we can do, is the best bet I think.
CosbehFox Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Again, I think this may all be pretty immaterial now. Pearson is going nowhere I suspect. I get the feeling the owners are giving him the season. We can argue whether this is right or wrong till the cows come home. Just get behind the team and see what we can do, is the best bet I think. Exactly the sentiment I want to hear. It would be suicide now with a transfer window opening in days.
dedlock Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 It's impossible to say. If we'd have fired him in April 2013 then the next day the new manager would have been among the favourites for promotion that season, and then again - had we made our move in the summer - the club would still have been among the favourites for 2014. It's easy to get bogged down with 'what ifs', whether you're behind NP or not. In truth, he did take us up eventually, so you could say he did his job. I'm sure there's someone out there who would have done it sooner, and more still would never have done it at all. As for Taylor, our fans were stung - and probably still are - by O'Neill's criticism of them for their insanity after the Sheffield United game. We were reluctant to jump the gun when we clearly should have. The same probably goes for Adams in 03-04 when we should have seen his glaring inadequacies and never allowed him a second successive summer of scattergun transfer policy, or Holloway in Jan 08 when Mandaric thought twice, or Sven after his late-season slump in 2011. You could argue that, because some silly sods made the wrong call for a boss to leave in 96, we as a whole didn't make the RIGHT call for a boss to leave in subsequent seasons. But this is with the benefit of hindsight. MC Prussian made a good point, that you can only ever really assess a manager's reign with the benefit of hindsight. Pearson's second spell could see us go down, fall apart, the board pull the plug, our best chance of serious success dashed... or it could see survival, or a profitable restructuring, which sees us in good shape for years to come. That restructuring is in progress.Why throw out the architect?
inckley fox Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 I agree with that .... I think the fans have been incredibly patient. Definitely. Where fans are concerned he's been given far more time than other managers at other clubs in similar positions, and other managers in our own past. Remember Little getting spat at when we were 3rd or 4th and on an iffy run in 94? Or O'Neill's head being called for after three months in a job? Or how quickly we turned on Megson and Sousa? Pearson has come under no major pressure from fans to leave despite two of his four seasons in charge (second spell) ending in disappointment, and the club going on two of their worst ever runs of form. I'm aware you could point towards the 'f*** off and die' encounter, but in truth this was a case of harsh, but not unusual barracking from a fan, and a ridiculous over-reaction from a manager. It made me smile that Big Sam backed him up, because Sam's experience of abuse from the terraces - namely, the bulk of his fans wanting him out over a prolonged period of time despite doing a good job - is very different to Pearson's. That restructuring is in progress.Why throw out the architect? I'm not saying we should! I've been consistently pro-Pearson.
melrose Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Yeah imagine what might have happened if we learnt our lesson and sacked Pearson after the awful run in 12/13. Whose to say we wouldn't be comfortable in prem mid table now!
ealingfox Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Whose to say we wouldn't be comfortable in prem mid table now! Anyone with a brain tbh.
dedlock Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Definitely. Where fans are concerned he's been given far more time than other managers at other clubs in similar positions, and other managers in our own past. Remember Little getting spat at when we were 3rd or 4th and on an iffy run in 94? Or O'Neill's head being called for after three months in a job? Or how quickly we turned on Megson and Sousa? Pearson has come under no major pressure from fans to leave despite two of his four seasons in charge (second spell) ending in disappointment, and the club going on two of their worst ever runs of form. I'm aware you could point towards the 'f*** off and die' encounter, but in truth this was a case of harsh, but not unusual barracking from a fan, and a ridiculous over-reaction from a manager. It made me smile that Big Sam backed him up, because Sam's experience of abuse from the terraces - namely, the bulk of his fans wanting him out over a prolonged period of time despite doing a good job - is very different to Pearson's. I'm not saying we should! I've been consistently pro-Pearson. Definitely. Where fans are concerned he's been given far more time than other managers at other clubs in similar positions, and other managers in our own past. Remember Little getting spat at when we were 3rd or 4th and on an iffy run in 94? Or O'Neill's head being called for after three months in a job? Or how quickly we turned on Megson and Sousa? Pearson has come under no major pressure from fans to leave despite two of his four seasons in charge (second spell) ending in disappointment, and the club going on two of their worst ever runs of form. I'm aware you could point towards the 'f*** off and die' encounter, but in truth this was a case of harsh, but not unusual barracking from a fan, and a ridiculous over-reaction from a manager. It made me smile that Big Sam backed him up, because Sam's experience of abuse from the terraces - namely, the bulk of his fans wanting him out over a prolonged period of time despite doing a good job - is very different to Pearson's. I'm not saying we should! I've been consistently pro-Pearson. I think we are on the same wavelength,grumpy though he can appear,NP has taken our club an enormous way.
Babylon Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Whose to say we wouldn't be comfortable in prem mid table now! We might be, or we might be in league one. But if choosing the right man was so easy we'd not have waited a decade to return, Forest wouldn't have waited even longer, or Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday etc.
nettle Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 That's down to the DOF you should know that by now nothing to do with Nigey he hasn't put a foot wrong yet. Sorry Emilio Lesbian I was only joking.
MC Prussian Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Apparently Newcastle have our number. Which number? Our number of players? If it is phone numbers you're talking about - they're all in the phone book. I have Newcastle's number. Allegedly.
Raj Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Pearson will NOT be sacked. The owners love him. FACT
Guest Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Sorry Emilio Lesbian I was only joking. Great comeback. Your wit is truly astounding.
Webbo Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Pearson will NOT be sacked. The owners love him. FACT I thought he might be but since you've used the word FACT I must be wrong. I feel a complete buffoon.
nettle Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 Great comeback. Your wit is truly astounding. I'm pretty good to be fair if I don't say so myself.
Raj Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 I thought he might be but since you've used the word FACT I must be wrong. I feel a complete buffoon. You are Webbo. FACT!!!!
Raj Posted 29 December 2014 Posted 29 December 2014 In fact Webbo you have my permission to close this,and any such threads!!!
teblin Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 This is so, so accurate. Pearson has his faults - well documented and fair, especially this season, and he'll never be immune from balanced criticism - but there are some fans who relish sticking the boot in because of their long-standing hatred of the bloke. One of my Facebook friends posted in the summer he still hated Pearson, despite that incredible season. I can understand why some dislike him - for football and non-football reasons - but the level of personal bile goes beyond that sometimes. My old man is the same. Always wantingb to moan about him. Couldnt wait for us to start losing.
C-man Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 I'm convinced that 90% of the Pearson-out brigade are 50+. Always seem to post on Bentley's Roof or be the most miserable cvnts on the planet (something to do with growing up in the 70s?) Pearson must have shagged/headbutted all their wives or something the level of personal hatred the man seems to generate, even in success.
Durnerz Posted 30 December 2014 Posted 30 December 2014 I'm all for Pearson staying if we ditch the appalling zonal marking method of 'defending' set plays, its takes an already poor defence and makes it that more awful. Surely on the laptops and data systems it's coming up red flagged as one of our areas most in need of attention. Is this Pearsons stubbornness/arrogance similar to Leveins 4-5-1 and nothing but philosophy?
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