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There was a moment in the second half when Ulloa won the ball and was starting a break. Reid (on a yellow!) cynically hauled him down. Moss had no interest of course.

I'll never forgive him after he miraculously sent Schmeichel off for two yellows in 2 mins away to forest a few years back. Still to this day I can't figure out what rule Kaspar broke for the 2nd. Anyone got any ideas?

Also did anyone else notice the cameras on Schmeichel as he left the pitch? Everyone else was celebrating the last gasp equaliser but he was absolutely fuming to himself. Now I can't lip read but I'm sure it was something along the lines of "I fvcking hate this cvnt of a ref!" Again and again

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There was a moment in the second half when Ulloa won the ball and was starting a break. Reid (on a yellow!) cynically hauled him down. Moss had no interest of course.

I'll never forgive him after he miraculously sent Schmeichel off for two yellows in 2 mins away to forest a few years back. Still to this day I can't figure out what rule Kaspar broke for the 2nd. Anyone got any ideas?

Also did anyone else notice the cameras on Schmeichel as he left the pitch? Everyone else was celebrating the last gasp equaliser but he was absolutely fuming to himself. Now I can't lip read but I'm sure it was something along the lines of "I fvcking hate this cvnt of a ref!" Again and again

Looked like he was saying "Ive never seen anything like it".

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He booked him for bringing down a Forest player but didn't actually tell Kasper he'd been booked, and showed the card when Kasper had his back turned. If I remember right.

Then the second one was for throwing the ball away after the peno even though it went back to the centre circle for kick off lol

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I remember when the commentators were saying how disgusting it was of Kasper to boot the ball towards innocent fans and then on some youtube video a forest fan recorded you clearly see him throw the ball bang down the centre of the pitch  lol  lol  lol

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I thought the first was for dissent, for arguing about the penalty that Matt Mills had conceded, for handball, when the ball was kicked at an arm that Mills was using to pick himself up off the floor - actual, unarguable proof that Jon Moss doesn't know how the handball rule works. After Forest scored the penalty, Kasper booted the ball back to the half way line angrily, and Moss booked him a second time for kicking the ball away, an offence that is normally about preventing time wasting, which meant this decision was also massively wrong, as Kasper had saved time by returning the ball to where it needed to be quicker - he had taken it from a forest player to do it, but it was a Leicester ball from kick-off - if anything, the Forest player shouldn't have been picking the ball up, as it wasn't Forest's ball to have in the first place.

 

Judging by his post game reaction, I think Kasper hasn't forgotten at all, and is still pretty pissed about it.

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He booked him for bringing down a Forest player but didn't actually tell Kasper he'd been booked, and showed the card when Kasper had his back turned. If I remember right.

Then the second one was for throwing the ball away after the peno even though it went back to the centre circle for kick off lol

 

Mills conceded a penalty after the ball was kicked at him while he was on the ground, Kasper was booked for dissent, then the second for kicking the ball back to the centre circle. Still the weirdest minute or so I've seen in football in terms of what was being given being completely separate from what was happening.

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Remember this but didn't realise it was M*ss. How on earth is this guy not only still in a job, but has actually been promoted? The FA is dodgy as hell.

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Remember this but didn't realise it was M*ss. How on earth is this guy not only still in a job, but has actually been promoted? The FA is dodgy as hell.

 

Look at him when he sends Kasper off, the arrogant cvnt has to make sure the game's about him.

 

Actually hope he gets a serious injury

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The second yellow card in that game was scandalous. Schmeichel threw the ball close to the centre circle, getting there quicker than the Forest players would jogging back. The Forest players staying back could've picked the ball up and got on with the game but, once again, he'd lost control of the situation. 

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Like I say I'll never forgive or forget that moment of madness from Moss. There's always that line about players 'seeing red' and losing it. Well I genuinely think Moss lost it in that moment and sent Schmeichel off purely cos he was already pissed off at him for the dissent.

Look at the way he reacts. The Leicester players are just asking him what's that for and he just arrogantly walks away, pointing, simply repeating the single word "Off!"

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Like I say I'll never forgive or forget that moment of madness from Moss. There's always that line about players 'seeing red' and losing it. Well I genuinely think Moss lost it in that moment and sent Schmeichel off purely cos he was already pissed off at him for the dissent.

Look at the way he reacts. The Leicester players are just asking him what's that for and he just arrogantly walks away, pointing, simply repeating the single word "Off!"

Thats why I laugh when I see comments saying refs should be respected. No they need to earn respect, just because you wear a kit dosn't mean players need to bow down to your every decision. It happened earlier in the West Ham game against Watford when a foul occured and a Watford player asked what for and the ref just pointed away and wouldn't answer him. I understand that players can be rude at times but maybe if they quickly explained why rather then just ignoring protests then the players might start to understand the decisions made and drop the complaints as soon as they have the answer.

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That was Moss... now that explains everything that happened on Sunday...

 

Well yeah, after a goal possession reverts to the side that has just conceded. He's booked the side in possession of the ball for getting it as quickly as possible to where the ball needs to be played. If I hadn't already known that the man was incompetent and knew nothing about the way the game works, nor even its rules, then that would have been enough. He clearly has a few flashes of rage of his own, does Mr Moss.

 

Our current team misconduct charge points towards much the same. If a player had been 'out of control' in the 83rd minute, then it's hard to know why no action was taken. Morgan, for one, was already on a booking. Surely he should have been shown a second yellow. West Ham would have won at a stroll against nine men. A ref will say there were too many players around him, and the ill-sentiment was too general, to single out individuals. But to me it looks like a guy who didn't enjoy the boos, the drinks being thrown, or hearing what Morgan had said about him to Carroll, and decided that, yes, he would throw the book at Leicester after all.

 

Not that this is anything like the worst aspect of his performance on Sunday: The shirt-pulling that only mattered in one instance and not in the rest, the contact+dive that was a second yellow in one instance and a penalty in the other, the yellow for persistent offending which wasn't indicated as such. And the minute-by-minute decision making which was equally arbitrary.

 

I saw that the refs backed him yesterday, and praised Carragher, while ignoring the fact that Carragher's principal justification for the Reid penalty was that Moss had entitled himself to treat Leicester more harshly than West Ham, because he'd told a couple of our players that this is what he was going to do in advance. Which would be cheating. But it distracts from my real gripe, which is the FA taking unprecedented measures to ensure quality refereeing for Spurs while, on the same weekend, taking Leicester City to the cleaners because of their response to the awful ref they'd appointed for that game.

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I've just read that Moss was also the referee that sent Mourinho off earlier this season after Jose called him "fvcking weak"

 

that's what i've been saying since this happened. It isn't a big conspiracy at all.... it's just ALL about ONE FAT MAN who has a BIG CHIP on his shoulder.

 

bit of background... in recent weeks the spotlight has been put on some of the decisions in our games.... particularly the handballs/penalty decisions which appear to have gone in our favour. (We all saw the simpson block from mane, koeman complained... but the verdicts post match were split. some saying penalty some saying not.) With the amount of media coverage on our games, radio stations, football forums have all discussed these issues, with some pundits and (spurs) fans suggesting even the referees and professional footballers want us to win it, so they give decisions in our favour and also opponents don't give 100% when playing us. Townend and Collymore were seriously suggesting this is the reason we have been 'lucky leicester' winning 1-0.

 

Now we come to the west ham game and Moss. If he is the referee who Mourinho called WEAK... you know it must be biting him week in week out...the last thing he wanted to do was give us a big decision in our favour....(in the 8th minute we have a stonewall penalty - he literally becomes blind, this day we were not getting any decisions - he was making sure vardy, huth, morgan were going to get nothing) this was his opportunity to show how strong a ref he is, that when all the pressure is on with a stadium full of home fans expecting victory, you go and send their best player off for a debateable dive.... give penalties for the softest of touches, ignore others...and countless other inconsistensies..... it all points to one thing..... He just wanted to prove himself to be strong.... He made the game all about himself. selfish c*nt.

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Thats why I laugh when I see comments saying refs should be respected. No they need to earn respect, just because you wear a kit dosn't mean players need to bow down to your every decision. It happened earlier in the West Ham game against Watford when a foul occured and a Watford player asked what for and the ref just pointed away and wouldn't answer him. I understand that players can be rude at times but maybe if they quickly explained why rather then just ignoring protests then the players might start to understand the decisions made and drop the complaints as soon as they have the answer.

I still believe refs should be treated with respect. But that also means you should have a way to voice concerns or disagreements to a higher authority. Limiting appeals to straight reds, and discouraging appeals by loading them with a double ban if the appeal fails is just ludicrous. 

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