Jon Moss

[The Doctor]

Do we ban players for poor performances? So OTT.

As jay has said, players who are poor get dropped, players who are constantly poor don't get their contract renewed and struggle to find clubs. Players do have some genuine repercussions for being consistently abysmal. Referees just get to ruin another set of games for a few weeks - given moss has been incompetent for years its about time he left the sport because he's obviously not cut out for it

[Thracian]

The vast majority of referees I've encountered - both in games I've played and seen officiating on TV do what you say, but you have to set the tone to enable them to do that. If you have players surrounding a referee, like we saw, it makes it impossible to do that because everyone is having their own two pence piece into the bargain.

It also helps that Rugby have an effective controls against dissent - with the moving of a penalty 10 yards forward and the middle ground option of a 10 minute sin bin.

To be honest I don't think a sin bin would work in football, but the issue of clear descent could do with a much more effective an obvious disadvantage punishment. A yellow card to these professionals is nothing - so maybe stronger post game sanctions where a certain number of yellow cards for dissent in a season results in not only a ban - but say a "referee awareness course" (where a pro will go an do some officiating themselves) might do the trick?

 

 

It would help enormously if referees didn't provoke dissent by unfairly making people out to be cheats. Vardy was targetted from the off on Sunday.

 

Part of a referees job is to give players protection. Moss failed to do that. Player does wrong - instant punishment. Referee does wrong - just ignore it.

 

Where's the respect coming from? People have to earn respect.

 

You'd think they'd deserve it by the time they get to Premiership level and in the main this season I've been mostly satisfied, win, lose or draw. But how Moss ever convinced anyone he was Premiership standard I don't know.

 

Perhaps the powers-that-be just like headmasters, presuming them to be authorative. But authority without fairness or consistency will never earn respect.

 

As one journalist said: Sunday produced "the right result but for all the wrong reasons".  

[Fox92]

I don't like him, never will, and the same applies to that idiot Lee Mason.

 

The standard of referring is appalling but the FA don't seem to do anything about it. Suppose it will continue while the FA continue to protect them over near enough everything.

 

... Two years later I still stand by all this I said.

[Merging Cultures]

Where do you think the ref was looking then on the Huth one, the ball landed right on top of them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhDWxXDMgLM

He'd argue that Huth had his hand on Kayoute.

Which in no way let's Vardy off of course

[Dan]

Moss knew exactly what he was doing with the soft yellow cards. He wanted to make the game about himself. It's painfully obvious. 

[EastAnglianFox]

that can't be true

Haha I kid you not, 100% Jeff Stelling told the story who I believe had heard it from a radio interview with one of the coaches/assistants on the bench.

[inckley fox]

I've seen some utter shit written justifying certain incidents. Like theirs was a penalty as we had been warned about holding in the box, but West Ham hadn't when they were all over Huth.... THAT"S NOT HOW IT BLOODY WORKS!!!!

 

Yes, if the referee had called an offence because he'd just imparted some advice on Morgan, but hadn't for the West Ham defender before the Huth incident, then that would be pretty much cheating. Because it would open the door to referees having whatever chat they wished with any given player at any stage in a game and then giving one-sided decisions based on who they'd chosen to whisper words of wisdom to beforehand. By way of example, you could go up to Mahrez in the 5th minute and say 'I won't give any decisions for you if you go to ground easily', and give yourself license to give every decision you wished to every other player on the field, but legitimately avoid giving anything to Mahrez.

 

If any reference is made to this in the ref's report (which it won't be, because even Moss isn't as thick as Carragher) then Leicester will seize on it, and there will be severe repercussions.

 

But that the referee had an agenda - be it his own or someone else's - I have no doubt. He chose to clamp down on certain sorts of behaviour which compromised our style of play, and then applied this ethos to certain players (predominantly the ones he'd chosen to clamp down on - namely the physical players like Huth, Morgan, Vardy, Carroll) more than others. The sheer quantity of inconsistencies within the game, let alone between games, makes his performance one of the worst I've ever seen, and there's no doubt in my mind that he was the difference between a 1-0 or a 1-1, or even (if you're a West Ham fan) a 1-2, and the eventual 2-2.

 

The charge against Leicester for failing to control his players, especially, smacks of him reading what Carroll said about Morgan's comments and then choosing to take retrospective action himself. Because during the game, when West Ham got their 83rd minute penalty, he didn't book anyone for bad language, time-wasting or anything else. If there was an offence, he should have taken action at the time.

 

Whatever, if the FA don't treat his report with the contempt it deserves, they could well end up being accused of having decided a title with the wrong refereeing appointment and the wrong response to it, whereas they were - at the same time - going out of their way and in unprecedented fashion to ensure Spurs had the best possible official for the occasion. In the Spanish press he was described as a 'referee who wanted to make an impact on the title' and if the FA support him in this, and it happens that we come 2nd or 3rd (which, hopefully, it won't) there will be major questions to answer on their contribution.

[Spiritwalker]

I'm not quite sure what to think about all the gracious Leicester supporters taking the part of every pundit and journalist who have been criticising our players for bringing all the referees actions upon themselves.

If Jamie dived, so did Reid, who was also on a yellow. We did not get a penalty and had Jamie sent off, they got a penalty and kept eleven players. How Reid survived the match without a red card is testament to disgraceful refereeing. He could have had as many as five yellows with a different ref.

Bilic claiming the ref succumbed to the noise from the Leicester fans...............Oh, and he didn't give in to that geordie long haired twats constant verbals in the ref's ear from the moment he arrived on the pitch at half time..................... Oh and did no-one notice Huth being strangled?...................... Oh, and has nobody mentioned that from the first whistle Moss was giving free kicks against us as though he was on a bonus scheme................. and so on and so on....................

Reid's dive was more blatant than Vard's I thought so at the time and after watching it back I just cannot work out

how Moss bought it. He even throws his leg back into Morgan.

Some of our fans seem to desperate to come across as being fair by sticking up for this ref, what I saw was a ref

who wanted to make an impact on the game and they are the worse type.

[Mike Oxlong]

This wonderful human being deserves his own poem

Jon Moss

You've made me cross

You're absolute dross

You piece of toss

[MC Prussian]

You can't ban every ref who puts in a shite performance each week there would be non left inside three weeks.

 

Easy, install robots or goal-line technology instead and be consequential about it.

[Jordan]

It has nothing to do with Jon Moss being anti-Leicester, but everything to do with him being a poor ref that doesn't seem to handle high-intensity matches and moments well.

His penalty call for the Carroll "foul" on Schlupp was as poor as any of his other decisions.

[Alf Bentley]

This wonderful human being deserves his own poem

Jon Moss

You've made me cross

You're absolute dross

You piece of toss

 

 

Have you heard the goss

About Jon Moss?

He looks as if he likes a doss

And like he's eaten a whole damn hoss.

 

He wanted a loss

For the mighty Fosse!

That Jon Moss, he ain't no boss.

He needs nailing up on a cross!

[Cropwellfox]

Imagine if he's appointed to the Champions League roster !!!!!!!!!

[Socks]

they should get Julian Clary or the camp one from the big bang theory to play him in the film

 

could just run around mincing in those scenes

[foxes_rule1978]

Imagine if he's appointed to the Champions League roster !!!!!!!!!

he shouldn't be allowed to ref a park game

Is he dead yet?

Unfortunately it seems not... he will be let loose to ruin another teams day

[Socks]

[CosbehFox]

It has nothing to do with Jon Moss being anti-Leicester, but everything to do with him being a poor ref that doesn't seem to handle high-intensity matches and moments well.

His penalty call for the Carroll "foul" on Schlupp was as poor as any of his other decisions.

Exactly. Speak to other fans they will cite him as poor and clearly not fit enough to referee Premier League games. He's overweight

[Fez of Mahrez]

Imagine if he's appointed to the Champions League roster !!!!!!!!!

 

Good luck getting the plane off the ground.

[foxes_rule1978]

Moss ended the game with both set of fans wanting to punch him surely that is a record

[Izzy]

This wonderful human being deserves his own poem

Jon Moss

You've made me cross

You're absolute dross

You piece of toss

 

Not your best effort mate. I'd maybe just stick to tits and lurking if I was you 

[gdl9050]

He couldn't ref our games anyway as it's always a ref from a different country

[Mike Oxlong]

Not your best effort mate. I'd maybe just stick to tits and lurking if I was you 

Agreed

Creative ability affected by desire to smash his smug fvckin face in

Totally ruined the game

[Freeman's Wharfer]

Two days on and I'm still fuming about his performance...

 

The thing is you can look at all of the big decisions in isolation and ask: "right or wrong?" - that's what all of the pundits and journalists are doing at the moment (and pretty much all coming up with 'wrong'). But that fails to acknowledge that he managed the game in it's entireity appalingly.

 

The problem he gave himself is that he started to give free kicks for things that weren't fouls. As soon as you do that you create a disjointed game where each set of players are trying to point score in terms of winning cheap free kicks from the ref (how many times did the West Ham striker hit the deck and stay down after a bit of contact from Morgan?).

 

He then added to the problem by whipping out yellow cards too easily. Non-fouls became free kicks and simple free kicks became yellow cards.

 

The Vardy first yellow is a prime example of him giving himself a probelm - never a yellow in a million years but by giving one he set a precedent. It wasn't a dirty game but West Ham still ended up with about 4 yellow cards. The grappling in the box isn't an issue if you take charge of it and just tell the players to get on with things. If you make a deal out of it as he did then you get players crumbling to try and make you act on your word as Reid did - he highlighted an opportunity to the players: do this and I'll give a penalty.

 

The inconsistency was appaling. He lost total control and the game became a shambles because of it.

 

It makes me so angry that this guy could have affected our title bid. He usurped himself and his performance at Forest as the worst I'd ever seen when he sent Schmeichel off for throwing the ball back to the halfway line. We should make a big deal of this and request that he never refs one of our matches again.

[Izzy]

Two days on and I'm still fuming about his performance...

 

The thing is you can look at all of the big decisions in isolation and ask: "right or wrong?" - that's what all of the pundits and journalists are doing at the moment (and pretty much all coming up with 'wrong'). But that fails to acknowledge that he managed the game in it's entireity appalingly.

 

The problem he gave himself is that he started to give free kicks for things that weren't fouls. As soon as you do that you create a disjointed game where each set of players are trying to point score in terms of winning cheap free kicks from the ref (how many times did the West Ham striker hit the deck and stay down after a bit of contact from Morgan?).

 

He then added to the problem by whipping out yellow cards too easily. Non-fouls became free kicks and simple free kicks became yellow cards.

 

The Vardy first yellow is a prime example of him giving himself a probelm - never a yellow in a million years but by giving one he set a precedent. It wasn't a dirty game but West Ham still ended up with about 4 yellow cards. The grappling in the box isn't an issue if you take charge of it and just tell the players to get on with things. If you make a deal out of it as he did then you get players crumbling to try and make you act on your word as Reid did - he highlighted an opportunity to the players: do this and I'll give a penalty.

 

The inconsistency was appaling. He lost total control and the game became a shambles because of it.

 

It makes me so angry that this guy could have affected our title bid. He usurped himself and his performance at Forest as the worst I'd ever seen when he sent Schmeichel off for throwing the ball back to the halfway line. We should make a big deal of this and request that he never refs one of our matches again.

[ousefox]

There isn't a more perfect person to play Moss in the Vardy movie than Piers Morgan.