Silverdaz Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 If we go down, I dont think you can just blame NP the blames got to be shared equally from the mananger, players, officials, owners, fans. But at least we have given it a go and not got thrashed every week and we have been competitve in almost every match.
Burbage Fox Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 Hi quick thing to ask why are the owners to blame? why are the fans to blame 31k every home game sold out at away games??
Monsell1976 Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 Hi quick thing to ask why are the owners to blame? why are the fans to blame 31k every home game sold out at away games?? Because it can't just be pearson's fault, the bloke that recruits the players that have let him down, and the bloke that picks the team, formations and tactics.The bloke that is employed to get results. Sorry but the blame lays at pearson feet, the owners have backed him financially, the fans have backed him alll season, even though we have had terrible runs and results. Yes we have had some dodgy refereeing decisions go against us, but so have a lot of other teams. The team isn't good enough, but could do better, but this is a side that pearson assembled, and his tactics, formations, and choice of players have been the main reason for where we are. Anybody that cannot see that pearson has ****ed up on many occasions this season, and hasn't learnt the way to play in the premier league, is blinded by their loyalty to the man
Fox92 Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 As with anything, ultimately he is the manager so takes full responsibility. I don't think Pearson has ever shied away from that, mind. I do feel certain players have let him down though when he put his trust in them.
MrSpaM Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 We just didnt bring enough experience in at the start of the season, really not sure who is to blame for that tbh
Unabomber Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 But at least we have given it a go and not got thrashed every week and we have been competitve in almost every match. And that is all that matters
GaelicFox Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 Fans ? wTF ? You nuts Why not blame the Dinner ladies and the lack of chips on the issue , get a grip buddy
m4DD0gg Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 If there is one set of people who are definitely not to blame in this total mess of a season it is the fans. 32K week in week out to watch that shower of shite is commitment to the cause above and beyond. Think the villa match in the cup is highly representative of that, 6K travelled on a Sunday morning to watch one of the most inept displays from both players and manager i have seen in a long time. Then again fans do not really count for much these days.
Izzet is God Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 If we go down, I dont think you can just blame NP the blames got to be shared equally from the mananger, players, officials, owners, fans. But at least we have given it a go and not got thrashed every week and we have been competitve in almost every match. 3 pointless suggestions on looking for others to blame rather then NP and players. The main responsibility is the manager's as stated by Monsell. NP only had one objective - to keep us up. If he doesn't do this he has failed this season. He also is the person who selects, recruits and motivates the players. If they under-perform you need to question why that is to them and also to the manager on individuals. If the team crumbles and under-performs in all areas, you have to question the manager - has he lost the changing room etc? We have been fairly poor this season but I wouldn't say that NP hasn't lost backing from players and/or some fans. I do however think he needed to go when his sacking/reappoint farce went on and if we go down then he must go. I thank him for his previous work but you have to go on this season alone.
steveherbe Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 Hi quick thing to ask why are the owners to blame? why are the fans to blame 31k every home game sold out at away games?? Totally agree, fans have been premier league home and away, it's the manager/players that haven't stepped up
Mike Oxlong Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 There's one reason and one reason only for relegation. Cock up on the catering front. No balti pies.
Mark_w Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 The owners and manager are to blame for us going down, sure, the fans aren't. Some of them are to blame for making it even more ****ing miserable though.
The Railway Man Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 The owners and manager are to blame for us going down, sure, the fans aren't. Some of them are to blame for making it even more ****ing miserable though. That's about spot on. Everyone on the recruitment and playing side is culpable for a relegation from the players and manager to the failed DOF appointment to the top (no pun intended). That doesn't mean you cut off the nose to spite the face though if you think the same people are the best ones to put us in a position to get back into this division.
shade Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 ....you can keep your head when all about youAre losing theirs and blaming it on you,If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,But make allowance for their doubting too;If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,Or being hated, don't give way to hating,And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;If you can meet with Triumph and DisasterAnd treat those two impostors just the same;If you can bear to hear the truth you've spokenTwisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:If you can make one heap of all your winningsAnd risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,And lose, and start again at your beginningsAnd never breathe a word about your loss;If you can force your heart and nerve and sinewTo serve your turn long after they are gone,And so hold on when there is nothing in youExcept the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,If all men count with you, but none too much;If you can fill the unforgiving minuteWith sixty seconds' worth of distance run,Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
cc_star Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 Buck always stops with the manager... As we see though the summer's recruitment strategy wasn't up to the required standard, which leaves the manager with a huge mitigating circumstance, and not enough of our existing record-breaking players haven't made the step up People questioning the mentioning of the fans is a bit odd, seeing as a very vocal minorities negativity has been counter-productive and often drowns out the majority... it's an appalling atmosphere of supposed 'support' and hinders the players turning it around rather than helps them
Silverdaz Posted 4 March 2015 Author Posted 4 March 2015 Hi quick thing to ask why are the owners to blame? why are the fans to blame 31k every home game sold out at away games?? Owners = maybe they should of made a decision on getting a new man in (not saying they should of, hypothetical question). Fans = some of the games the atmoshere has been so negative that its natural for it to filter down to the players and make them play within themselves
red5 Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 We have the worst fans ever, sometimes I wish I was born in Burnley.
Silverdaz Posted 4 March 2015 Author Posted 4 March 2015 When we go down the buck stops with manager end of. Surely got to be the players as mananger doesnt play
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 4 March 2015 Posted 4 March 2015 3 pointless suggestions on looking for others to blame rather then NP and players. The main responsibility is the manager's as stated by Monsell. NP only had one objective - to keep us up. If he doesn't do this he has failed this season. He also is the person who selects, recruits and motivates the players. If they under-perform you need to question why that is to them and also to the manager on individuals. If the team crumbles and under-performs in all areas, you have to question the manager - has he lost the changing room etc? We have been fairly poor this season but I wouldn't say that NP hasn't lost backing from players and/or some fans. I do however think he needed to go when his sacking/reappoint farce went on and if we go down then he must go. I thank him for his previous work but you have to go on this season alone. Totally agree. Pearson has had free reign over a number of years to get us establised (or keep us up this year if you prefer) using transfer funds and also a fair amount of time now - both given by the owners. They and the fans have, I would say been more than patient, but it's not worked. In fact from the base we started from when we lifted the championship trophy in May, I can't imagine many, whilst thinking it was not going to be easy, would have thought it could have gone so badly. It has been a totally shocking and unacceptable showing. Nobody else can be held to account other than him - it's his team. It was his job to sign the players that would keep us up, therefore whether they have let him down or just not been good enough is irrelevant. He he has failed in achieving this season's objective, an objective lest we forget he has been handsomely salaried for. For me his exit is long overdue, and to look to blame anyone else, or even try share the blame with anyone else is incorrect.
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