Smuts' NFL Thread

[Detroit Blues]

On 17/02/2024 at 09:00, bovril said:

But is it not that the use of helmets and pads has contributed to the sport becoming this violent? 

 

It is speculated that the modern helmets have allowed players to play more with their head down, rather than tackling like rugby with your head up. You wouldn't fly into a rugby tackle with your head down, right? But in American Football, the reason you want to tackle with your head down is to place your helmet on the side of the ball carrier, directly on the ball, so that you cause a fumble. On the flipside, the ball carrier will instinctively lower his head before the tackle to reduce his profile and protect the ball. In a sport all about leverage, where the low man wins, you naturally have to lower your head to get lower than your opponent. 

 

It's a perfect storm of factors that make this sport ripe for concussions. Research indicates that the repeated minor collisions (that do not cause concussions) will also lead to the development of CTE. By the time a player is 21 years old, and has finished his college career, he has likely taken enough repeated hits to the head to cause CTE symptoms. For some more extreme cases, CTE symptoms can start as early as high school. 

 

Mood swings, outbursts of violence, depression, suicide, etc. are all symptoms of sever forms of CTE. It explains why so many NFL players have lived such rough lives after football, and makes their stories all the more tragic.

 

[bovril]

20 minutes ago, Detroit Blues said:

 

It is speculated that the modern helmets have allowed players to play more with their head down, rather than tackling like rugby with your head up. You wouldn't fly into a rugby tackle with your head down, right? But in American Football, the reason you want to tackle with your head down is to place your helmet on the side of the ball carrier, directly on the ball, so that you cause a fumble. On the flipside, the ball carrier will instinctively lower his head before the tackle to reduce his profile and protect the ball. In a sport all about leverage, where the low man wins, you naturally have to lower your head to get lower than your opponent. 

 

It's a perfect storm of factors that make this sport ripe for concussions. Research indicates that the repeated minor collisions (that do not cause concussions) will also lead to the development of CTE. By the time a player is 21 years old, and has finished his college career, he has likely taken enough repeated hits to the head to cause CTE symptoms. For some more extreme cases, CTE symptoms can start as early as high school. 

 

Mood swings, outbursts of violence, depression, suicide, etc. are all symptoms of sever forms of CTE. It explains why so many NFL players have lived such rough lives after football, and makes their stories all the more tragic.

 

Thanks. 

 

I vaguely remember a former lineman saying something like "if you want to know what it's like to play football, run up against your garage door for 3 hours every Sunday"

[Lillehamring]

On 21/02/2024 at 15:39, Detroit Blues said:

 

It is speculated that the modern helmets have allowed players to play more with their head down, rather than tackling like rugby with your head up. You wouldn't fly into a rugby tackle with your head down, right? But in American Football, the reason you want to tackle with your head down is to place your helmet on the side of the ball carrier, directly on the ball, so that you cause a fumble. On the flipside, the ball carrier will instinctively lower his head before the tackle to reduce his profile and protect the ball. In a sport all about leverage, where the low man wins, you naturally have to lower your head to get lower than your opponent. 

 

It's a perfect storm of factors that make this sport ripe for concussions. Research indicates that the repeated minor collisions (that do not cause concussions) will also lead to the development of CTE. By the time a player is 21 years old, and has finished his college career, he has likely taken enough repeated hits to the head to cause CTE symptoms. For some more extreme cases, CTE symptoms can start as early as high school. 

 

Mood swings, outbursts of violence, depression, suicide, etc. are all symptoms of sever forms of CTE. It explains why so many NFL players have lived such rough lives after football, and makes their stories all the more tragic.

 

Of course, recent rule changes have thankfully restricted the use and propensity of helmet contact.

[CheeseHead]

Kelce retires from the NFL. Not Travis unfortunately, but his brother Jason

[spacemunky]

2 hours ago, CheeseHead said:

Kelce retires from the NFL. Not Travis unfortunately, but his brother Jason

With all his TV commercials, he won't go hungry.

 

Could see him ending up in the commentary booth.

[Guest Lako42]

1 hour ago, spacemunky said:

 

 

Could see him ending up in the commentary booth.

If he can walk up the steps 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Russell Wilson to be released by the Broncos, with up to $82m in dead salary cap money to be spread over the next 2 seasons. Ouch.

[Guesty]

It's mad that Russell Wilson hasn't played one game of his $245 million contract extension. That extension is even worse than the trade.

 

As a big Seahawks fan, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up and how he does. 

 

Payton was possibly the worst coach to team him up with. Wilson always had problems passing over the middle and with timing. He also liked special treatment which Payton was never going to allow.

Edited 6 March 2024 by Guesty

[CheeseHead]

6 hours ago, Guesty said:

It's mad that Russell Wilson hasn't played one game of his $245 million contract extension. That extension is even worse than the trade.

 

As a big Seahawks fan, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up and how he does. 

 

Payton was possibly the worst coach to team him up with. Wilson always had problems passing over the middle and with timing. He also liked special treatment which Payton was never going to allow.

It's probably been mentioned before on this thread, but I remember watching Sean Payton as the QB for the Leicester Panthers, probably late 1980s, early 90s. Was a decent QB for the British level of the game, but who'd have thought he would go on to be an NFL Superbowl-winning headcoach

[SouthStandUpperTier]

5 minutes ago, CheeseHead said:

It's probably been mentioned before on this thread, but I remember watching Sean Payton as the QB for the Leicester Panthers, probably late 1980s, early 90s. Was a decent QB for the British level of the game, but who'd have thought he would go on to be an NFL Superbowl-winning headcoach

It would've been 1988. He was a scab replacement player for the Chicago Bears during the 1987 NFL players strike. Then one season with the Panthers before starting his coaching career at San Diego State.

[Lillehamring]

On 06/03/2024 at 20:31, SouthStandUpperTier said:

It would've been 1988. He was a scab replacement player for the Chicago Bears during the 1987 NFL players strike. Then one season with the Panthers before starting his coaching career at San Diego State.

Corrrect. 1988.

[CheeseHead]

1 hour ago, Lillehamring said:

Corrrect. 1988.

Have you got a screenshot of the complete list? The kicker Mick Bjelic is my cousin. There are some great names on that list. The Norman Green / Denny Walker / Charlie Cornelius triumvirate at running back was awesome. The no. 29 Curt Sanders was an American and pretty decent, I remember him returning at least a couple of kick-offs for TDs

[Lillehamring]

22 hours ago, CheeseHead said:

Have you got a screenshot of the complete list? The kicker Mick Bjelic is my cousin. There are some great names on that list. The Norman Green / Denny Walker / Charlie Cornelius triumvirate at running back was awesome. The no. 29 Curt Sanders was an American and pretty decent, I remember him returning at least a couple of kick-offs for TDs

He was a decent kicker as i remember. - it was a decent squad with some really good players - Denny Walker probably the best home grown player.  And a huge squad.

I have some from 89 as well, and a bunch of Panther youth programmes (who i played for)

[FOXYTALK]

Free agency is the transfer window football needs. 3 days and it's all done. 

[Guest Lako42]

Picking Friday night lights back up to fill the gap. 

 

Matty Saracen the ultimate Leicester fan QB 

[st albans fox]

Rumoured that Rees-zammit is going to be taken by the chiefs.  Not a bad gig to be thrown to by Mahomes in your rookie season! 

[Guest Lako42]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

Rumoured that Rees-zammit is going to be taken by the chiefs.  Not a bad gig to be thrown to by Mahomes in your rookie season! 

Position not currently obvious is it? 

[UniFox21]

18 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Position not currently obvious is it? 

All reports going for WR/RB or returner.

 

[Guest Lako42]

41 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

All reports going for WR/RB or returner.

 

I'd love to see him as a WR or RB but it's a big ask 

[ajthefox]

Can't wait to see the new kickoff in action, it's gonna be mayhem watching them all trying to figure out the best approach early doors.

[StanSP]

1 minute ago, ajthefox said:

Can't wait to see the new kickoff in action, it's gonna be mayhem watching them all trying to figure out the best approach early doors.

What's the new kickoff? 

[ajthefox]

4 minutes ago, StanSP said:

What's the new kickoff? 

Kicking from same spot, but the rest of the kicking team are on the receiving teams 40. Receiving team lined up on their own 30 with returner behind - No moving from those lines until the ball is caught more or less.

 

Borrowed from the XFL...

 

If the ball gets booted through the end zone the receiving team starts on the 30 I think.

 

It's all incentivising returning the ball rather than the snorefest of last season with all the touchbacks.

[StanSP]

37 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

Kicking from same spot, but the rest of the kicking team are on the receiving teams 40. Receiving team lined up on their own 30 with returner behind - No moving from those lines until the ball is caught more or less.

 

Borrowed from the XFL...

 

If the ball gets booted through the end zone the receiving team starts on the 30 I think.

 

It's all incentivising returning the ball rather than the snorefest of last season with all the touchbacks.

I see the advantages in it to be fair, especially with the last paragraph. 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Rees-Zammit may already be moving up the KC depth chart thanks to this numpty.

 

https://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/story/_/id/39844882/report-police-searching-rashee-rice-due-major-accident

 

Police are searching for Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice in their investigation of a major accident Saturday in Dallas, according to the Dallas Morning News.

 

Citing law enforcement officials, the Dallas Morning News reported that a vehicle that is believed to be registered to or leased to Rice was involved in a crash in northeast Dallas at around 6:20 p.m. local time Saturday.

 

A police call sheet obtained by the Dallas Morning News confirmed that officials are searching for Rice in connection with the crash.

 

A Dallas police spokeswoman told the newspaper that a driver in a Chevrolet Corvette and a driver in a Lamborghini were speeding and both lost control of their vehicles, with the Lamborghini hitting the median wall and causing "a chain reaction collision involving four other vehicles."

 

The police spokeswoman told the Morning News that occupants of the Lamborghini and the Corvette ran from the crash site. She said four people had minor injuries, including two who were taken to the hospital.

 

As of Sunday morning, it was not clear whether Rice is facing charges, and his level of involvement in the accident also is unclear. Rice did not appear in Dallas County jail records as of 7 a.m. ET on Sunday.

 

Rice, 23, grew up in the Fort Worth suburb of North Richland Hills, Texas, and played all four years of his college career in Dallas at SMU before being drafted by the Chiefs in the second round last year.

 

The 6-foot-1 Rice emerged as Kansas City's top wide receiver last season, finishing second on the team in receptions (79) and receiving yards (938) -- behind only Travis Kelce -- and with a team-leading seven touchdown catches. He also had 26 catches for 262 yards and a touchdown during the Chiefs' four-game postseason run en route to their second straight Super Bowl championship.

 

 

Edited 31 March 2024 by SouthStandUpperTier

[Golden Fox]

Massive news in the NFL today:

https://uni-watch.com/2024/04/26/nfl-bombshell-players-can-now-wear-guardian-caps-in-games/

Looks like we might be seeing guardian caps on the field this year. 

 

I love the aesthetics of the NFL, and the helmet is the most important part of that, so it would be a radical departure. 

 

But its such a brutal sport, anything to make it safer has to be applauded as a step forward.