Dan LCFC Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 I think he'd make the San Marino game a lot less frustrating. Don't think he'll play though. He was only in last time due to others being unavailable in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 If he thinks Leicester v England - there's only one answer, us, as England games often have a lot of pressure on the players whilst we're probably overachieving at the moment and high on confidence. Edit: Thinking about it, I bet our team would beat England on our current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 He will be called up I reckon, but probably won't start. It will be Rooney and Kane if he's fit no doubt or it will be Rooney and a couple of attacking midfielders. It would be interesting to see how he does against a team that doesn't leave their own box though. That's going to happen to us in the near future. Think it a cert that he gets in the squad and seeing that it is San Marino could start. A good game for Hodgson to judge his international capabilities without exposing him to a much better side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conLAD logan Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 No other england striker has started well bar charlie Austin, surely he has to be in the Squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 It'll be ings, Kane and Rooney with Townsend, Walcott, the ox and lallana as attacking mids let's not kid ourselves here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxUK Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Rooney - Kane Vardy sub Possibly Sturridge if he's fit and proper if not Berahino. Face it, England's options are pretty shit, Vardy is well within a chance to get called up and actually start - if Kane / Rooney continue to play mediocre Vardy would irregardless of sentiment get the start. It'll be ings, Kane and Rooney with Townsend, Walcott, the ox and lallana as attacking mids let's not kid ourselves here Don't think he'll pick Ings as he's now Liverpool's 3rd choice striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Needs a good performance vs Spurs and a goal or two, to force Hodgson to keep him in the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Rooney - Kane Vardy sub Possibly Sturridge if he's fit and proper if not Berahino. Face it, England's options are pretty shit, Vardy is well within a chance to get called up and actually start - if Kane / Rooney continue to play mediocre Vardy would irregardless of sentiment get the start. Don't think he'll pick Ings as he's now Liverpool's 3rd choice striker. he picked lambert didn't he? and he wasn't even meant to be good or young or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Rooney - Kane Vardy sub Possibly Sturridge if he's fit and proper if not Berahino. Face it, England's options are pretty shit, Vardy is well within a chance to get called up and actually start - if Kane / Rooney continue to play mediocre Vardy would irregardless of sentiment get the start. Don't think he'll pick Ings as he's now Liverpool's 3rd choice striker. If the England team was picked on merit, yes, but it isn't. Rooney is the golden boy and fans refuse to accept that he should be left out on account of being shit for 11 years, and the media love kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 berahino and ings are both utter bobbins No they aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 If Ings, Berahino, Lambert or Austin are in the squad ahead of Vardy then there is something seriously wrong ticking in Roy's head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesbrothers Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Forget Ings and Rooney, the continued love-in for Berahino baffles me more than anything. He's been absolute wank for most of 2015. We saw what he's like in that game at the Hawthorns - greedy on the ball and as accurate as a fish with cataracts. What on earth has he done in the past 8 months to merit a place ahead of Vardy?In an ideal world, Vardy is third choice England striker on form behind Austin and Kane, but unfortunately that's never going to be the case while the game remains as it is. Austin is still playing in the Championship and Kane hasn't scored yet this season despite doing all the other stuff right, which on Garth Crooks logic makes them unpickable. You could also argue that an on-form Sturridge or Welbeck would be in there if they weren't injured, but again, Vardy's current form is the key. If he goes off the boil, by all means put his international career on ice, but Hodgson must be having wet dreams at the prospect of letting Jamie out against San Marino, if not for his finishing then for his workrate and assist rate. We might finally get a cricket score again.I don't mind having Rooney in the line-up as I feel he plays the Nugent role - in the hole, not necessarily the goalscorer and linking up to midfield - well. But as an out-and-out striker, surely Vardy is up there at the minute despite a modest goals return for his assists record and pace. Edit - Footnote on Ings: Every aspiring England striker should know by now that moving to Liverpool, especially Brendan Rodgers' Liverpool, is career suicide. Forget him, he won't be playing for England again. I'd say I feel bad for him, but he should know that Anfield is a graveyard for aspiring talent - the club is poison to the game at times. I hope his stay is brief and he gets a shot at a lower-table Prem side to rebuild his career, because I can already see him benchwarming and regressing massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Berahino scored 9 more goals than Vardy last season, he's not shit at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 You know things aren't brilliant when these two are tipped for the national team: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34006936 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnfox Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 The thing is if England played a style of football that suited fast, direct, counter attacking footballers then Vardy would be the first name on the team sheet. If Roy picked the best squad possible on for, then Vardy would be in without a second thought. Unfortunately England play a style where we will have a slow and patient build up and try to camp ourselves in the final third. This does not suit Vardy (and imo doesn't suit English players on the whole). The other problem is that Roy has openly said if you are English and "play" for a top 5 premium team, even if you don't play regularly, then you are basically nailed on for a call up. Against San Marino it'll be kane and Rooney. Vardy should be in the squad but I think he'll struggle for game time which is a real shame. If only the team was picked on form... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB87_LCFC Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 You know things aren't brilliant when these two are tipped for the national team: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34006936 Good example of being given the chance on your form, would sooner see this than out of sorts so called 'better players' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Puncheon above his weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 I'd rather than Puncheon than Townsend (even if he does tend to perform better for England than Spurs). He had a sensational season last time out and he'd offer us something different, certainly no harm in seeing how he'd get on. It'd seem you can't win with some - pick bit-part players from bigger clubs and fans cry that people aren't being picked on merit, go for someone who's shining at a mid-table side and they aren't deemed good enough for England before a ball is kicked. You'd think after all the championing we gave Vardy after his call up that people on this board especially would know better, obviously there's still one or two melts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 I'd rather than Puncheon than Townsend (even if he does tend to perform better for England than Spurs). He had a sensational season last time out and he'd offer us something different, certainly no harm in seeing how he'd get on. It'd seem you can't win with some - pick bit-part players from bigger clubs and fans cry that people aren't being picked on merit, go for someone who's shining at a mid-table side and they aren't deemed good enough for England before a ball is kicked. You'd think after all the championing we gave Vardy after his call up that people on this board especially would know better, obviously there's still one or two melts. tbf vardy is sick an puncheon isnt id rather play with ten than townsend though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 You know things aren't brilliant when these two are tipped for the national team: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34006936 Eh, puncheon and Dann have played well enough to deserve a spot. I'd be considering Murray if he can pick up last seasons form again for palace Berahino scored 9 more goals than Vardy last season, he's not shit at all. Kane scored 25 more, he's still utter wank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Kane scored 25 more, he's still utter wank. Except he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Except he isn't. Kane is a one season wonder who will not score more than 12 goals all season, can guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitchinFox Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Unfortunately with England, providing Rooney is fit he starts else its media uproar time. The rest of the strikers who are all in better form have to fit around him. Even if Rooney is undroppable ( ) Roy shouldve left him out in Dublin and started Austin and Vards. If Vardy is selected he needs to start v San Marino in order to get on the scoresheet IMO. And I'd be surprised if he featured at all in the game against a stronger Swiss side assuming he makes no impact in Italy That's the point though. Rooney IS undroppable - at least until he is stripped of the England captaincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 honestly pointless calling him up, he's 5th in the pecking order. If he ever plays it'll be 5 minutes at the end of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrytaggart Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Roy has got the kahoonies to pick Vardboss as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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