Guest Posted 10 July 2016 Posted 10 July 2016 what are the Lib-Dems doing during this time of political upheaval? I've hardly heard mention of them in the last couple of weeks or so. The potential gains are there for them to seize.
Dr The Singh Posted 10 July 2016 Posted 10 July 2016 Lib Dem Lamb on tv. Seems to be a remain whiner All Lib Dems are
ramboacdc Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 this is getting ridiculous now....on the plus side the stability of who will lead the country has made the euro rate a bit better.
Guest MattP Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Very Blarite and a huge appeal to the centre. Can't knock her for that though, sensible in the current climate with Corbyn's manifesto likely to be a set of placards. Was nice to hear her referring to the party by it's full name for once as well, she might know already keeping Scotland is imperative.
VLC86 Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 The worst thing about politics is that at this exact minute you know she is getting back scuttled over the sofa at number 10. Enjoy your dinner.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 I wonder which country we'll bomb under this one
Strokes Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 I wonder which country we'll bomb under this one Scotland.
Guest MattP Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Belgium first then Scotland after independence. All the whisky, stella and chocolate we can handle.
ousefox Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Thank God it seems she is staying close to the centre. I was very worried the Tories would be able move a lot further to the right with such a weak opposition. What a poor PM Cameron has been though. A long list of failures and very few positives.
Danno Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Osbourne to Goldman Sachs on a bosman confirmed #welcomeosbourne
MC Prussian Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Boris Johnson as foreign secretary! http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36789972
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Osbourne to Goldman Sachs on a bosman confirmed #welcomeosbourne Think they'll want someone more qualified in financial matters.
SMX11 Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 David Davies Brexit minister. The best man for the job. Yes much better than that wet fart Chris Grayling.
Jimothy Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Yes much better than that wet fart Chris Grayling. Larry the cat would have been a better choice than Grayling.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 I like David Davis, always seemed like a principled guy and talks well. Amber Rudd is awful. Phillip Hammond is dishwater and Boris is Boris.
Jimothy Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Larry should be appointed Lord Mayor of London....Better bet than Khan ! Pretty sure the mayor is a public vote not an appointment, but there you go. Anyway point was Grayling is awful. Saw him do Brexit piece on sunday politics the other week, he was so poor. Absolutely awful at putting his across, wearing an ill fitting suit, looked like complete twat. His voice is so boring that he could be really intelligent, but he'd put me to sleep before he convinced me of his argument.
Alf Bentley Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 While I'd prefer the Tories not to be in power at all, May seems to be making some smart decisions. Hammond and Davis always seem two of the more balanced, thoughtful Tories. If she kicks Gove and Hunt into the wilderness today and gives that saucer-eyed non-entity from Loughborough her P45, she'll rate 10/10 for her reshuffle. Am I the only one who thinks Hunt might be near a breakdown? He comes across like some sort of Clockwork Orange psycho these days. Smart move to give the Brexiters such prominent roles in foreign negotiations. Boris as Foreign Secretary ties his fate to hers, when he could easily have become a rival in a couple of years time. Given the importance of foreign relations over the next few years, she's much better off with him inside the tent pissing out. If he does well, it will probably reflect well on her; if he messes up, he's eliminated as a future rival. Amusing scenes when Boris meets Obama, Erdogan & EU leaders, given his comments about part-Kenyans hating the British empire, the Turkish threat to Europe and hostility towards "Brussels". All in a day's work, though, for a man with the chutzpah to refuse to resign for lying to his leader about impregnating his mistress. So, Boris foresees a great global role for the UK? Now he can get out there and build it. Fox reckons we'll easily be able to do beneficial trade deals all round the world? Now he can get out there and do them. Davis is confident that we can do a good Brexit deal with the EU? Now he can negotiate it himself. To be fair, Davis always seems more aware of real people's lives than most politicians, so less inclined to just look for a deal that suits big business wanting to exploit employees? Of course, all this "middle-ground" talk may prove to be just talk....I suspect not, to some extent, at least. The expulsion of Osborne is interesting. Does this signal the abandonment or softening of his deficit targets? Certainly, if May is serious about these populist ideas of improving life for the poor, then something has to give - she can't achieve that (during a probable post-Brexit slowdown) AND slash the deficit to the extent that Osborne was planning, Only a moderate deficit reduction (or even deficit treading water) to fund a bit more cash targeted on struggling voters who angrily voted Brexit? May doesn't get on with Gove anyway, does she? Well, the unpopularity of his "treachery" to Dave and Boris could be pretext enough for her to send him off into the wilderness. Health & Education will be interesting appointments now.
Thracian Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 While I'd prefer the Tories not to be in power at all, May seems to be making some smart decisions. Hammond and Davis always seem two of the more balanced, thoughtful Tories. If she kicks Gove and Hunt into the wilderness today and gives that saucer-eyed non-entity from Loughborough her P45, she'll rate 10/10 for her reshuffle. Am I the only one who thinks Hunt might be near a breakdown? He comes across like some sort of Clockwork Orange psycho these days. Smart move to give the Brexiters such prominent roles in foreign negotiations. Boris as Foreign Secretary ties his fate to hers, when he could easily have become a rival in a couple of years time. Given the importance of foreign relations over the next few years, she's much better off with him inside the tent pissing out. If he does well, it will probably reflect well on her; if he messes up, he's eliminated as a future rival. Amusing scenes when Boris meets Obama, Erdogan & EU leaders, given his comments about part-Kenyans hating the British empire, the Turkish threat to Europe and hostility towards "Brussels". All in a day's work, though, for a man with the chutzpah to refuse to resign for lying to his leader about impregnating his mistress. So, Boris foresees a great global role for the UK? Now he can get out there and build it. Fox reckons we'll easily be able to do beneficial trade deals all round the world? Now he can get out there and do them. Davis is confident that we can do a good Brexit deal with the EU? Now he can negotiate it himself. To be fair, Davis always seems more aware of real people's lives than most politicians, so less inclined to just look for a deal that suits big business wanting to exploit employees? Of course, all this "middle-ground" talk may prove to be just talk....I suspect not, to some extent, at least. The expulsion of Osborne is interesting. Does this signal the abandonment or softening of his deficit targets? Certainly, if May is serious about these populist ideas of improving life for the poor, then something has to give - she can't achieve that (during a probable post-Brexit slowdown) AND slash the deficit to the extent that Osborne was planning, Only a moderate deficit reduction (or even deficit treading water) to fund a bit more cash targeted on struggling voters who angrily voted Brexit? May doesn't get on with Gove anyway, does she? Well, the unpopularity of his "treachery" to Dave and Boris could be pretext enough for her to send him off into the wilderness. Health & Education will be interesting appointments now. Insightful as ever. Makes me still more surprised you're so against what may be a genuinely emerging government for the people and still so supportive of the blinkered class warfare and flawed theoretical shit that drives what remains of the once worthy Labour Party. You always strike me as far more than they're going to be worth for a long time, if ever again.
Alf Bentley Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 Insightful as ever. Makes me still more surprised you're so against what may be a genuinely emerging government for the people and still so supportive of the blinkered class warfare and flawed theoretical shit that drives what remains of the once worthy Labour Party. You always strike me as far more than they're going to be worth for a long time, if ever again. It may not surprise you to hear that I don't view the whole Labour Party as defined by "blinkered class warfare and flawed theoretical shit"....though there are individuals/factions defined by that within Labour - and within the Tory party. Labour are certainly in a big mess at the moment. I hope that it leads somewhere positive eventually, though it may take a while. Mind you, the Tories now face massive challenges post-Brexit, so there's no guarantee that they won't end up in a big mess a little further down the line. What's it to you, anyway? I thought you were opposed to democracy?
Guest Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 I liked the tone of May's speech. an inclusive approach would be appreciated. It she comes through on her words then I'll be happy for Britain. Persoanlly I was hoping for a lot more women in the top positions and hoped to see a statement with more women on the cabinet than men but as long as it's good for the country then that's fine with me. BJ as foreign minister will be "interesting" Morgan paying for backing Gove is quite funny. Gove out is great - there must be a loy of tories unhappy with that.
leicsmac Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 Johnson trying to thrash out any kind of deal with a half dozen surly Russian diplomats, or a half dozen smart and quick thinking Chinese ones, will certainly be interesting.
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