Webbo Posted 26 April 2016 Share Posted 26 April 2016 It's ironic that he was considered a failure for coming second with some of the biggest teams in Europe and now he's on the verge of winning the title with us. I'm so pleased for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 More coverage on his sportive past, this time done by the Daily Fail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3559163/Claudio-Ranieri-mocked-Tinkerman-won-two-cups-30-years-eccentric-grown-love-touch-Premier-League-trophy.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 2nd with Chelsea 2nd with Juventus 2nd with Roma 2nd with Monaco 1st with Leicester ( and few promotions) This is top coach my man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxymcoxy Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 It's ironic that he was considered a failure for coming second with some of the biggest teams in Europe and now he's on the verge of winning the title with us. I'm so pleased for him. The truth is none of those teams were really in a position to win the league when he was with them. With the exception of 1 or 2 seasons and even then it definitely wouldn't have been expected. Like missing out to the invincibles, or Mourinho's Inter (Although Claudio had a better points per game he just joined a couple of games into the season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcarr21 Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 The truth is none of those teams were really in a position to win the league when he was with them. With the exception of 1 or 2 seasons and even then it definitely wouldn't have been expected. Like missing out to the invincibles, or Mourinho's Inter (Although Claudio had a better points per game he just joined a couple of games into the season). We were even further behind from being in a position to win the league and yet he is on the verge of doing it. This season alone would suggest he actually was a failure in his other appointments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxymcoxy Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 We were even further behind from being in a position to win the league and yet he is on the verge of doing it. This season alone would suggest he actually was a failure in his other appointments. Erm, I suppose that's one way of looking at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 The truth is none of those teams were really in a position to win the league when he was with them. With the exception of 1 or 2 seasons and even then it definitely wouldn't have been expected. Like missing out to the invincibles, or Mourinho's Inter (Although Claudio had a better points per game he just joined a couple of games into the season). Monaco finished second to PSG when they started splashing the cash on Zlatan and the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 What's Claudio's stats like as a second season manager? Do we need to be worried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 What's Claudio's stats like as a second season manager? Do we need to be worried? Not good, but we knew that when we appointed him. I couldn't understand why anybody was pessimistic about this season when we appointed him, he's made an immediate impression virtually everywhere. As I've said elsewhere he can get us relegated next year and he'll still be streets clear as the greatest manager we've ever had if we can find 3 more points this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 Not good, but we knew that when we appointed him. I couldn't understand why anybody was pessimistic about this season when we appointed him, he's made an immediate impression virtually everywhere. As I've said elsewhere he can get us relegated next year and he'll still be streets clear as the greatest manager we've ever had if we can find 3 more points this season. Monaco he got them promoted as champions in his first season, second to PSG and Zlatan in his second season, got sacked. Chelsea improved every season under Ranieri, getting sacked after finishing second and getting to CL semi final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 Monaco he got them promoted as champions in his first season, second to PSG and Zlatan in his second season, got sacked. Chelsea improved every season under Ranieri, getting sacked after finishing second and getting to CL semi final. But a lot of places recently it's gone tits up and he's been gone by the end of the second season. That probably has more to do with the transient nature of being a football manager in Italy more than anything else though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 So for our level, there shouldn't be any worry then by the looks of it. I'd take 41 points next year for sure! I agree ttfn, he's on course to be our greatest ever manager and will always be lengendary if we win the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 But a lot of places recently it's gone tits up and he's been gone by the end of the second season. That probably has more to do with the transient nature of being a football manager in Italy more than anything else though. Not because of a bad second season Chelsea improved every year Valencia: Not very successful didn't last a season Parma: Took over relegation threatened side mid way through the season. Helped them escape relegation, didn't stay on as manager Juventus: He took newly promoted Juve to 3rd in Serie A in his first season, second season he got sacked in May, Juve finished 2nd that year. Roma: finished second in his first season. Second season sacked in feb after poor run of results, you can have that one Inter: Came in in September after a terrible start for Inter, Improved things, but not by enough, left in March with Inter in 8th Monaco: Champions Ligue 2 first season, 2nd Ligue 1 second season, sacked Greece: Disaster So only Roma did he have a disastrous second season. He must have the record for being sacked for finishing second though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 You can go further back and see very successful 2nd and 3rd seasons at Valencia, Caglari and Fiorentina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevilacqua Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 The truth is none of those teams were really in a position to win the league when he was with them. With the exception of 1 or 2 seasons and even then it definitely wouldn't have been expected. Like missing out to the invincibles, or Mourinho's Inter (Although Claudio had a better points per game he just joined a couple of games into the season). Confirmed. After the first 2 matches Roma had 0 points. Spalletti resigned and everybody was expecting an horrible season. The team was strong and had fought for the title in 2008, again narrowly losing it (3 points), but it was progressively aging. The ownership was in serious financial trouble and couldn't sign strong players to replace people like Perrotta, Taddei, Pizarro, Cassetti. Then Ranieri came and made the miracle. As for Juventus, he was appointed when they came back to Serie A after a succesful Serie B campaign with Deschamps. He led them to 3rd place immediately (quite remarkable), then during the summer they made awful signings like Amauri and Poulsen. The following season things went bad and he was replaced by Ferrara. But that Juve side was nothing compared to present day Juve, which can count on a completely different, and better, management. I don't know Ligue 1 well, but again Ranieri came from Ligue 2 with that Monaco side and finished second. I think PSG was much stronger than them. In my opinion, although he could have won more titles by not slipping over a banana peel just when everything was done (you can't lose a scudetto at home against Sampdoria when you have beaten Inter, Lazio, Juve and so on, GRRR ), he has rarely managed a team which was built to win and managements have often given him only one chance. He could have done better things with Chelsea though, expecially under Abramovich's ownership. He lost in the semifinals of the UCL to Monaco. That year he could have won the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevilacqua Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 Not because of a bad second season Chelsea improved every year Valencia: Not very successful didn't last a season Parma: Took over relegation threatened side mid way through the season. Helped them escape relegation, didn't stay on as manager Juventus: He took newly promoted Juve to 3rd in Serie A in his first season, second season he got sacked in May, Juve finished 2nd that year. Roma: finished second in his first season. Second season sacked in feb after poor run of results, you can have that one Inter: Came in in September after a terrible start for Inter, Improved things, but not by enough, left in March with Inter in 8th Monaco: Champions Ligue 2 first season, 2nd Ligue 1 second season, sacked Greece: Disaster So only Roma did he have a disastrous second season. He must have the record for being sacked for finishing second though. Yes but you have also to consider that Roma was in serious financial trouble during Ranieri's second season. The club, run by Unicredit bank, was being sold and there was terrible confusion under every point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st Century Fox Posted 27 April 2016 Share Posted 27 April 2016 I feel bad for Claudio, having to participate in tacky shit like this: Ughhhh, is there anything they won't slap a sponsor on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireFox Posted 28 April 2016 Share Posted 28 April 2016 Ughhhh, is there anything they won't slap a sponsor on.If it means more money for PL teams, which means we can better compete in Europe, then why now and why complain.Sent from my C525c using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola Posted 28 April 2016 Share Posted 28 April 2016 Semi final against Monaco he made sub which did not work. Veron was idiot. In return leg Chelsea was leading 2:0 and was good result but in last minute of first half, Monaco scored with hand. So it was very unlucky. Greece job made lots of damage to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola Posted 28 April 2016 Share Posted 28 April 2016 Yes but you have also to consider that Roma was in serious financial trouble during Ranieri's second season. The club, run by Unicredit bank, was being sold and there was terrible confusion under every point of view. Correct. And he was not sacked he left. Roma would not have money for compensation anyway. I think Roma was leading 3:0 at half time against Genoa but final score was 3:3 and he resigned. Also he used to bench Rossi and Totti on occasions. You know Ranieri never complain about those things to media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola Posted 28 April 2016 Share Posted 28 April 2016 Great read http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/36151658 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st Century Fox Posted 28 April 2016 Share Posted 28 April 2016 If it means more money for PL teams, which means we can better compete in Europe, then why now and why complain. Sent from my C525c using Tapatalk It's not exactly money that's holding back PL teams to compete in Europe. We're set to earn more TV money than Bayern and PSG this year. ****ing Palace and Watford will almost make as much as Bayern and PSG in TV rights. It'd be good if we showed a bit of class and didn't just slap a sponsor on every possible surface area visible to a 4k TV camera. I for one look forward to the sponsored face tattoos that players will be mandated to have in the 2017-18 season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trabuch Posted 28 April 2016 Share Posted 28 April 2016 This is nice. Great reaction from the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 28 April 2016 Share Posted 28 April 2016 Just found this too, was about to also share it! Fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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