RowlattsFox Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Russian passenger plane crashed over Egypt with Everyone on board likely to be dead. Technical faults being blamed currently.
Unabomber Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Never flying again more chance of dying than actually arriving at your destination.
Guest seanfox778 Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Terrible news. It's worrying how planes are crashing more in this day and age when the technology available should be so much more reliable.
Len Finsbury Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Terrible news. It's worrying how planes are crashing more in this day and age when the technology available should be so much more reliable. Possibly due to increased pressure by airlines to reduce costs in line with competition and therefore shortcuts. I remember a conversation with an aircraft technician who said that very few planes take off with a clean bill of health and that there are always a few things wrong that didn't get fixed in time. Keeping a plane on the ground is far too expensive so repairs get given priority status. He said sometimes it could be trivial things like a loose seat or broken catch on a cupboard. When I asked what the worse thing he could remember, he just laughed and "you don't want to know"
MooseBreath Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Statistically there are far fewer accidents than there was 20 or even 10 years ago, it's probably just 24/7 news that makes them seem more common.
Wymsey Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Wouldn't be surprised if the Airliner had a poor past safety record, which is often the blames for these tragic events. It'd be a severely impossible achievement if they find anymore MH370 wreckage.
separator Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Wouldn't be surprised if the Airliner had a poor past safety record, which is often the blames for these tragic events. It'd be a severely impossible achievement if they find anymore MH370 wreckage. The airliner involved in this crash is an A321, its only ever had 1 fatal crash and there are well over 1000 in flying service. It was a 20 yo plane though apparently and i've no idea what the airlines maintenance record is like.
filbertstreet Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Descended way too quick for anything other than catastrophic failure which would be really odd on an A321, especially since they've got Part 145 certification. Wouldn't be allowed anywhere near the EU if it didn't. Sinai's a pretty nasty terrorist hotspot IIRC, my money would be on it getting shot down, should be avoiding that flightpath
bovril Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 I doubt IS have the capability to shoot down an airliner.
bovril Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Can anyone translate this? Probably the website you copied it from to post on foxestalk.
ScouseFox Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Can anyone translate this? yeah the headline says VARDY SCORES AGAIN AS THE COMEBACK KINGS GO THIRD i think
separator Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 IS don't have the missile launchers in Egypt like the Russians (allegedly) had in Ukraine to shoot down MH17, they only have hand held rocket launchers that can only reach about 15000 ft, this plane reached over 30000 ft before losing altitude. Could be a bomb on board I suppose but i'd go with a mechanical failure from what we know so far.
Jon the Hat Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 So the story about a Mayday call and report of technical problems and emergency landing was not true. Big question mark then.
VLC86 Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 Terrible news. It's worrying how planes are crashing more in this day and age when the technology available should be so much more reliable. It's Russian, unfortunately their safety record is terrible compared to most. Horrible anyway, RIP to all onboard.
Fox92 Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 Statistically there are far fewer accidents than there was 20 or even 10 years ago, it's probably just 24/7 news that makes them seem more common. Agreed. The media always report it as a big headline when it does occur too. Crashes on the road are far more regular but when there is an air accident you've usually got 200+ people dead at once. Terrible news. It's worrying how planes are crashing more in this day and age when the technology available should be so much more reliable. See above. Accidents have always happened, it's just they are reported on straight away and in full volume. The thread title "another plane crash" is a bit unfair, they are generally few and far between. And it's how you define "crash" too. I mean if this was shot down, or whatever, considering IS have claimed responsibility, then it's not a technical fault is it.
whoareyaaa Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 With Russia only a couple of weeks ago starting air raids on Syria and then a Russian plane comes down, coincidence? Bad to say but even the US could have played a part.
Collymore Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 The people who are saying air crashes are more common when statistically they're clearly not are prime examples of how the media can influence your ideas and beliefs... It's a bit like the people saying that football transfers take so much longer and are more complicated than in the past! It's just the twitter boom means you get hear more about it rather than having to wait for teletext to refresh! The above two examples are fairly innocuous, it's the sinister control of the media (or totalitarian tip toeing) that we need to worry about...
Webbo Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 The people who are saying air crashes are more common when statistically they're clearly not are prime examples of how the media can influence your ideas and beliefs... It's a bit like the people saying that football transfers take so much longer and are more complicated than in the past! It's just the twitter boom means you get hear more about it rather than having to wait for teletext to refresh! The above two examples are fairly innocuous, it's the sinister control of the media (or totalitarian tip toeing) that we need to worry about... What are you talking about?
Collymore Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 What are you talking about? How the media can influence your thoughts on the world.
Fox92 Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 How the media can influence your thoughts on the world. It's ridiculous how some people believe what is reported in the mainstream media. People come out with stuff like "well I saw in the paper that...".
Babylon Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 Terrible news. It's worrying how planes are crashing more in this day and age when the technology available should be so much more reliable. Might be if they are new planes, many are decades old.
Webbo Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 How the media can influence your thoughts on the world. In what way are they lying to us? Plane crashes,whhen compared to the thousands flights per day across the world,are incredibly rare.
MPH Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 There's a video out there that Islamic state just released showing a plane being shot down by a missle... IF this proves to be true and it's still a big IF for me as its not beyond ISIS to rehash an old video and claim it as theirs, then I can quite believe that they have picked on the wrong country. Russians don't care about international opinion or their image, they'll put everything into taking them out.
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