Pedro Pereira

[Vindaloo FOX]

buying a young player for a lot of money is always a risk could go either way but let's hope this kid has the right attitude and with our coaching staff he could turn out to be a gem. 

 

or he could turn out to be a young pricey flop like Nick Powell 

[Gerard]

I'd love to know when he appeared on our radar.

 

Obviously it wasn't when Sampdoria bought him for peanuts in the summer.

 

He's only played 8 games in the Serie A so when did we sit up and take notice and prepare a €10m bid?

[Nick]

If he's the next Bale, then fine!

[Babylon]

I'd love to know when he appeared on our radar.

 

Obviously it wasn't when Sampdoria bought him for peanuts in the summer.

 

He's only played 8 games in the Serie A so when did we sit up and take notice and prepare a €10m bid?

 

The article I read said it was linked to someone who worked with Ranieri at Monaco, he had something to do with the kid going to Sampdoria for 150k.

 

Could be brilliant... but lets just say alarm bells are ringing again.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

I know there's no place for sentiment in top level football but if we do sign this guy I can't help feel a bit sorry for Simpson. He's worked so hard to improve his game and has been an integral part of our success so far this season. Couldn't really have asked any more from him. Still, you've got to be pragmatic if you want to progress I suppose.

I'd be very surprised if we throw a relatively unproven 17 year old straight into the squad. Simpson could realistically play the rest of this season and most of next season, and this chap would still only be 19, then we can start phasing him in? 

[Gerard]

The article I read said it was linked to someone who worked with Ranieri at Monaco, he had something to do with the kid going to Sampdoria for 150k.

 

Could be brilliant... but lets just say alarm bells are ringing again.

 

FFS, this is a Ranieri signing?

 

I thought we'd still be nursing our burnt fingers from last time.

[dbtcity]

The article I read said it was linked to someone who worked with Ranieri at Monaco, he had something to do with the kid going to Sampdoria for 150k.

Could be brilliant... but lets just say alarm bells are ringing again.

Ranieri has now been here for about 6 months, he's found a style that suits us and knows what type of player it takes to play in said style... I will start to judge how good/bad his eye for a player is in a few months basically based on this window as you can't judge him on a window where he's been here for 5 mins and isn't really sure on a formation let alone style of play that works for us

[Babylon]

Ranieri has now been here for about 6 months, he's found a style that suits us and knows what type of player it takes to play in said style... I will start to judge how good/bad his eye for a player is in a few months basically based on this window as you can't judge him on a window where he's been here for 5 mins and isn't really sure on a formation let alone style of play that suits us

I agree... but signing someone who cost 150k for 10m about 7 months later after a handful of games is a bit weird. By all accounts he's not done anything that special in those games. It's just like the Benalouane signing as the same happened there.

 

It seems an exceptionally risky signing based on the fact there is little you can even judge the player on.

[Ric Flair]

Ranieri 's track record of signings at other clubs has always impressed me, whether he's always had set up's like here where he has someone like Walsh do it for him I don't know but let's not have him down as clueless because of Benalouane and Inler. If anything he should be praised for not continuing to play them if they aren't suitable, he's also likely to be able to move them on for not much less than what we paid for them which again is something many managers have failed to do so in the past.

 

This is however, a queer deal. I've never known a player go from a nominal fee to several million in 6 months having only played a few games. Fair enough if he'd played 20 games and looked nothing but a boy wonder but it seems he's only come in a few times and done fairly well?

[Gerard]

I agree... but signing someone who cost 150k for 10m about 7 months later after a handful of games is a bit weird. By all accounts he's not done anything that special in those games. It's just like the Benalouane signing as the same happened there.

 

It seems an exceptionally risky signing based on the fact there is little you can even judge the player on.

 

And he's a full back, the least influential position on the pitch. Danny Simpson isn't the greatest footballer we have ever seen but he's capable and that's enough.

 

Buying a 17 year old right back for this money I would expect him to have a great chance of being good enough to be playing for an elite club at some stage.

 

What we do know about this player is Benfica accepted a nominal fee for him six months a go and now his value has soared about 60 times in six months.

 

I'm not keen on this transfer at all any more.

[Webbo]

I wouldn't necessarily take the 10 million Euros too seriously. We were supposed to have paid £9 million for Kramaric and then we're told it was nearer to 4.

[MC Prussian]

All I know is that Sampdoria have a rather odd guy at their helm - president Massimo Ferrero is known to be on the... flamboyant side of things:

 

As you can see, oftentimes watching home games wearing a scarf as a bandana.

 

The Pereira deal has probably now reached enormeous proportions because other teams start to realize for how much they can potentially flush us - seeing that we're Top Four material at present and could possibly participate in the Champions League next season.

Also, it raises questions over Sampdoria's current financial situation. Are they skint? Do they urgently need money?

[lgfualol]

I wouldn't necessarily take the 10 million Euros too seriously. We were supposed to have paid £9 million for Kramaric and then we're told it was nearer to 4.

Where did you hear it was nearer to £4m?

I agree Pereira is probably like £2m + add-ons if he's any good.

[Gerard]

The Pereira deal has probably now reached enormeous proportions because other teams start to realize for how much they can potentially flush us - seeing that we're Top Four material at present and could possibly participate in the Champions League next season.

Also, it raises questions over Sampdoria's current financial situation. Are they skint? Do they urgently need money?

 

Not really, if they value him at (x) and we offer (x+y) then it's good business to sell him and nothing to do with them needing the money. I would suggest they're not selling off the family silver by selling Pereira, just that they think they're getting an over inflated fee for him.

 

If someone offered us £14m for Albrighton I would suggest most people would be happy for us to sell him at that price and hardly anyone would moan we've become a selling club.

[Webbo]

Where did you hear it was nearer to £4m?

I agree Pereira is probably like £2m + add-ons if he's any good.

I'm sure lots of different people have said so on here. I assume it's been in the press.

[MC Prussian]

Not really, if they value him at (x) and we offer (x+y) then it's good business to sell him and nothing to do with them needing the money. I would suggest they're not selling off the family silver by selling Pereira, just that they think they're getting an over inflated fee for him.

 

If someone offered us £14m for Albrighton I would suggest most people would be happy for us to sell him at that price and hardly anyone would moan we've become a selling club.

We'd have to have suitable replacement lined up and at this moment, I can't see us selling any player that has been a part of our regular starting XI. Maybe this summer the earliest.

[HankMarvin]

I agree... but signing someone who cost 150k for 10m about 7 months later after a handful of games is a bit weird. By all accounts he's not done anything that special in those games. It's just like the Benalouane signing as the same happened there.

It seems an exceptionally risky signing based on the fact there is little you can even judge the player on.

Benalouane was purchased to allow us more flexibility with Tatics, something prior to this job CR used to implement, as the player could play defender and defensive midfielder with out CR making subs.

It transpires that after out fantastic start to the season that CR has not needed to use the player as the team has done well playing with a style they know.

I wouldn't call it a failed signing, more a case of others players performing out of their skin and us getting results that has dictated Benalouanes starts.

[VLC86]

I think you're getting youtube mixed up with porn hub.

Kermorgant has a video on porn hub? I'm guessing he tried to lob someone from 8 yards only to be humiliated when the other person just stood their without reacting.

Poor Yann.

[Babylon]

Benalouane was purchased to allow us more flexibility with Tatics, something prior to this job CR used to implement, as the player could play defender and defensive midfielder with out CR making subs.

It transpires that after out fantastic start to the season that CR has not needed to use the player as the team has done well playing with a style they know.

I wouldn't call it a failed signing, more a case of others players performing out of their skin and us getting results that has dictated Benalouanes starts.

He'd done little to show he was that capable in Italy had he? Wasn't the youngest and came with not great write ups, nothing stood out stats wise. What you say might be true... but we shouldn't be paying that much for someone who seemingly doesn't warrant it.

[Fez of Mahrez]

On the bench tonight against Genoa.

[themightyfin]

What your all missing is he was brought before he signed a youth contract so in effect he was out of contract so the 150k was compensation ordered to pay. He may have been very highly rated at the time but when your contracts up at 16/17 the compensation you get is always going to be minimal.Sampdoria prob got a bargain at the time.

[Ozwin]

What your all missing is he was brought before he signed a youth contract so in effect he was out of contract so the 150k was compensation ordered to pay. He may have been very highly rated at the time but when your contracts up at 16/17 the compensation you get is always going to be minimal.Sampdoria prob got a bargain at the time.

 

Great detective work.

[ARM1968]

Smells dodgy to me. Agents and others lining their pockets. This one may well haunt us if it goes through.

[Nickfosse]

That is an excellent point.....Claudio has been here for some time now, and will have worked out what the strengths and weaknesses of the current squad are. He'll have insight into the spirit of the players and theirmost effective roles. His overall knowledge of players throughout Europe should combine positively with that of Walsh's scouting network....I personally wouldn't 'call' either Benny or Inler as bad signings against Ranieris judgement....Maybe they were 'his' signings, maybe they weren't....either way, neither has featured enough to be labelled a 'failure', (neither has Kram btw)....We have an excellent 'talent finder' in Walsh and a manager with an amazing depth of experience...I fully trust the judgement of both!

Top post. Completely agree.

I would also add that when Inler and Benny were being recruited, the expectation was to make 40 points and have a squad capable of avoiding relegation. The goal posts have shifted since then and they realise what a fine group of players we have. Interestingly Ranieri said that he wants to recruit young players with massive potential who can grow with the team. It is a strategy that he has had success with in his career.

I think a future of Walsh and Ranieri is a very exciting prospect and I hope they work together for several seasons.

[Number12MarkBright]

What is all this "Ranieri signing" stuff. Steve Walsh and his scouts select the players Rudkin does the deals if Claudio says yes to the recomedation. That's the process and has been for 4 seasons.