ranieri99 Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 No one can argue how good they and Steve Walsh have been. The signings of knockaert, mahrez, vardy, kante etc have been amazing. It's the big money signings that grate on me. Kramaric, ulloa, okazaki, inler. That's 30 odd million pounds. Surely no one can say with a straight face that any of them have been good signings? Also add benalouane for £5 million. You can't expect them to always get it right but it's got to be a concern. Not one of them would bring the club any profit if they would be sold today.
AKCJ Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 No one can argue how good they and Steve Walsh have been. The signings of knockaert, mahrez, vardy, kante etc have been amazing. It's the big money signings that grate on me. Kramaric, ulloa, okazaki, inler. That's 30 odd million pounds. Surely no one can say with a straight face that any of them have been good signings? Also add benalouane for £5 million. You can't expect them to always get it right but it's got to be a concern. Not one of them would bring the club any profit if they would be sold today. Ulloa has been a very good signing.
Harry - LCFC Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 It's very easy to say with a straight face that Ulloa has been a good signing.
lgfualol Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Ulloa our top scorer last season so was worth it. Kram was a weird one, probably more a panic-buy but don't know. I'd give Benny, Inler and Okazaki until the end of the season. I find Okazaki frustrating at times but I like him. Besides, every team signs duds and there will be more expensive risk signings that might not work out as we stay towards the top in this league. At least all those players together were cheaper than Liverpool paid for Andy Caroll.
FireFox Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Ulloa's goals kept us up last seasonal. Plus he helped save a few too probably. For 8/10m, whatever it was, that is money well spent.
ranieri99 Posted 27 December 2015 Author Posted 27 December 2015 It's very easy to say with a straight face that Ulloa has been a good signing. Sorry no. He had a good start last season but everytime he gets the ball I know nothing will happen. The chances he has missed this season is staggering. I would go as far as saying that ulloa wouldn't get into a single premier league starting line up. Not even Aston villa.
StanSP Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 £30m for those 4 signings Way to (wrongly) elaborate your point...
AKCJ Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Sorry no. He had a good start last season but everytime he gets the ball I know nothing will happen. The chances he has missed this season is staggering. I would go as far as saying that ulloa wouldn't get into a single premier league starting line up. Not even Aston villa. Behave you clown.
Harry - LCFC Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Sorry no. He had a good start last season but everytime he gets the ball I know nothing will happen. The chances he has missed this season is staggering. I would go as far as saying that ulloa wouldn't get into a single premier league starting line up. Not even Aston villa. We probably wouldn't be in this division without Ulloa. You can try and act dismissive all you want but you're the one who's wrong.
CosbehFox Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 The line about wouldn't make a profit if sold now. Well they wouldn't but those players have played a part in two Premier League survivals. With the PL being the big carrot of course. So they have made us money really.
foxfanazer Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 No one can argue how good they and Steve Walsh have been. The signings of knockaert, mahrez, vardy, kante etc have been amazing. It's the big money signings that grate on me. Kramaric, ulloa, okazaki, inler. That's 30 odd million pounds. Surely no one can say with a straight face that any of them have been good signings? Also add benalouane for £5 million. You can't expect them to always get it right but it's got to be a concern. Not one of them would bring the club any profit if they would be sold today. Take Ulloa's goals away from last season and then decide whether he's been a good signing or not. Some of our fans are unbelievable at times
teblin Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Sorry no. He had a good start last season but everytime he gets the ball I know nothing will happen. The chances he has missed this season is staggering. I would go as far as saying that ulloa wouldn't get into a single premier league starting line up. Not even Aston villa. I'd hazzard a guess if you took away ulloas goals last season we'd have been relegated. Or a lot closer to it.
foxfanazer Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Sorry no. He had a good start last season but everytime he gets the ball I know nothing will happen. The chances he has missed this season is staggering. I would go as far as saying that ulloa wouldn't get into a single premier league starting line up. Not even Aston villa. Talking out of your arse kid
EverybodyDannsNow Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Ulloa more than payed back his fee last season. Without him we would have gone down. I would argue that Kramaric hasn't played enough to be written off yet, and Benny, Inler and Okazaki have only been here 5 months. Chill out
MC Prussian Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 No one can argue how good they and Steve Walsh have been. The signings of knockaert, mahrez, vardy, kante etc have been amazing. It's the big money signings that grate on me. Kramaric, ulloa, okazaki, inler. That's 30 odd million pounds. Surely no one can say with a straight face that any of them have been good signings? Also add benalouane for £5 million. You can't expect them to always get it right but it's got to be a concern. Not one of them would bring the club any profit if they would be sold today. In today's market, 30 million pounds for four players is probably a bargain. Or at least the norm. The market has changed and so have prices. The number in itself shouldn't worry you if you put it into relation what other teams have paid for mediocre talent. Besides, you sound just like Gerard. You use the argument of "paying over the odds" against players that have for most part hardly featured at all. I don't see how you can make a sound assessment on your investment when you've not properly deployed it yet.
katieakita Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 For the premier league they are not big money signings, how much have big money Burnley spent on their centre forward? Yesterday a £32 million pound striker could not score a 5 on 1 chance. Ulloa scored the goals to keep us up so was money well spent, Krameric could well have been an insurance policy to fire the goals in the championship as we would have lost a few last season if we had been relegated. Man Utd have spent something like £250 million on utter tosh Newcastle something like £50 million. We have plenty of big money signings if that is what you want, tell yourself we paid the going rates for Vardy,Mahrez,Kante,Drinkwater,Fuches and Schlupp . The the squad if considerably worth more than what was paid for it
Claridge Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 No one can argue how good they and Steve Walsh have been. The signings of knockaert, mahrez, vardy, kante etc have been amazing. It's the big money signings that grate on me. Kramaric, ulloa, okazaki, inler. That's 30 odd million pounds. Surely no one can say with a straight face that any of them have been good signings? Also add benalouane for £5 million. You can't expect them to always get it right but it's got to be a concern. Not one of them would bring the club any profit if they would be sold today. You are either joking or a complete idiot. Every team has players that come off and some less so. Ulloa or Okazaki have played in every game this season and we are top of the league. Other teams below us have spent 100s of millions on players .no one can be stupid enough to believe that every signing works surely
Babylon Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Steve Walsh doesn't negotiate the fees, there are two issues here which you are mixing. We all know we overpaid for most of those players the second they signed. But unfortunately that comes part and parcel of being a premier league club. Clubs know you have money and try to rinse you, there isn't a club in this league that it's not happened to. As we grow as a team and become established we might find it easier to walk away as we have more options, or for players to pressure clubs to let them go. Your first few years are exceptionally difficult transfer wise, we know that from our struggles in the market. As for Walsh picking players, Ulloa was top scorer last year with a very good return. Nothing wrong with that signing. Okazaki and Kramaric were signed for a different manager you may forget, the roles we had in mind for them may no longer be there... (Okazaki is being played out of position). Benny and Inler, I think there are question parks over who actually picked them. But even still, they have barely played to judge.
SnapperFox Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 It's all about building a team. You need players with the best attitude to work in a group. Ulloa has this and as its been said before, his goals last season were vital to the teams survival.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Take Ulloa's goals away from last season and then decide whether he's been a good signing or not. Some of our fans are unbelievable at times You might as well say take away Vardy's goals since he's been here & decide if he's been a good signing!
Captain... Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Weren't we saying a few years ago that we over paid for Vardy and Drinkwater? Give them a chance, Kramaric, Benalouane and Inler have been unable to break into a table topping team. If we had been playing badly this season we would have seen a lot more of them, the reason why we haven't isn't because they are shit but that the first 11 have been outstanding.
foxfanazer Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 You might as well say take away Vardy's goals since he's been here & decide if he's been a good signing!Think you've missed my point mate. We wouldn't be in this division let alone top of it without Leo's goals last season
Babylon Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 You might as well say take away Vardy's goals since he's been here & decide if he's been a good signing! Eerrrm no.
shailen Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I completely disagree, since most of those players haven't had a chance in the first team yet. Inler and Kramaric haven't had enough time this season to judge them, and that is because of the form of our starting XI rather than their deficiencies. Ulloa has been a good striker for us,gives us something different and has a decent scoring record. Okazaki has been a good team player, chasing lost causes and although his scoring record may not be that good, he does contribute in so many ways.
ranieri99 Posted 27 December 2015 Author Posted 27 December 2015 How can you class a player as a good signing when he has actually got worse since we signed him. Also. He scored 7 premier league goals from the start of the season to 14th March. This saw us bottom of the league with 19 points after 28 games. In the remaining 10 games he scored in 3 games. To say his goals kept us in the division is somewhat laughable. You do realise that if he wasn't playing then someone else would have in his place. If his goals kept us in the division then why were we bottom of the league on the 14th March after he had scored 7 goals?
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