LCFC V WBA Post match 2-2

[Corky]

Despite not winning I was pleased with the performance and thought it was more encouraging than Saturday's match. It wasn't through a lack of chances that we failed to win but poor finishing and good goalkeeping. Both sides will say they could've stopped the goals but we had enough opportunities to win the game- Okazaki had two great chances, Foster made two good saves as well.

 

Frustrating to lose two points but the display was improved and I think four points was fair for the two games, just in the wrong order.

[RonnieTodger]

There's this bald fella behind me that shouts nonsense all game and after the whistle when WBA fans were singing "You're gonna win f--k all", he shouted "AHHH YOUVE NEVER WON F--K ALL LADS".  Two seconds later, he corrected himself by saying "Actually, they won the 68 cup final, Jeff Astle"

[Haydos]

https://streamable.com/e6kk

 

Disappointed with Schmeichel on this looking at the replay. Not because he doesn't dive but the reason he doesn't dive. He takes a little two-footed bounce as Gardner strikes it which leaves him in the air until the ball is well on it's way into the back of the net.

 

I'm by no means a keeper but isn't this a pretty awful mistake?

[Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo]

https://streamable.com/e6kk

 

Disappointed with Schmeichel on this looking at the replay. Not because he doesn't dive but the reason he doesn't dive. He takes a little two-footed bounce as Gardner strikes it which leaves him in the air until the ball is well on it's way into the back of the net.

 

I'm by no means a keeper but isn't this a pretty awful mistake?

 

 

Isn't he hopping to see over the wall? 

[purpleronnie]

I'm always surprised that nowadays you rarely see players on the line, if the player taking the free kick clears the wall often the goalkeeper will have no chance.

[ScouseFox]

https://streamable.com/e6kk

 

Disappointed with Schmeichel on this looking at the replay. Not because he doesn't dive but the reason he doesn't dive. He takes a little two-footed bounce as Gardner strikes it which leaves him in the air until the ball is well on it's way into the back of the net.

 

I'm by no means a keeper but isn't this a pretty awful mistake?

 

wouldn't have got anywhere near it even if gardner had said "alright pal i'm going to clip it over the wall into your top right hand corner, good luck". 

 

 

i like that they scored and our fans cheered and clapped louder than theirs  

[Dickov22]

Top class free kick that no goalie is saving.

[Corky]

That was a great free-kick. Not like the Burnley one last season.

[ScouseFox]

The only thing that cost us a win was poor finishing and poor final balls. The amount of times we managed to get free in the area just kicked it straight at the keeper at into one of their defenders was criminal.

 

we've been pretty clinical all season so that's what was even more frustrating/unusual. 

 

tbf we hit the bar twice and their keeper made two great saves in the second half. vardy should've scored with a really simple header in the first half and you've got to expect at least one of your strikers will score if they both have free headers from six yards out. 

 

still cannot work out how we didn't score off the last chance from mahrez's header back across goal. unbelievable. 

[shen]

https://streamable.com/e6kk

 

Disappointed with Schmeichel on this looking at the replay. Not because he doesn't dive but the reason he doesn't dive. He takes a little two-footed bounce as Gardner strikes it which leaves him in the air until the ball is well on it's way into the back of the net.

 

I'm by no means a keeper but isn't this a pretty awful mistake?

 

It takes the ball approximately 1 second from the time Gardner hits it before it crosses the line. You can see from the camera behind Gardner how well it's hit and you can see from the camera behind the goal how much distance Schmeichel actually has to make up within that 1 second. Sometimes you just have to hold your hand up and say well done. It's by no stretch of the imagination an awful mistake

[AKCJ]

Not too wound up with Schmeichel with that one. It's a cracking effort.

 

More annoyed that he has decided to produce a moment of quality like that against us while being utter guff against everyone else.

[Haydos]

It takes the ball approximately 1 second from the time Gardner hits it before it crosses the line. You can see from the camera behind Gardner how well it's hit and you can see from the camera behind the goal how much distance Schmeichel actually has to make up within that 1 second. Sometimes you just have to hold your hand up and say well done. It's by no stretch of the imagination an awful mistake

 

 

wouldn't have got anywhere near it even if gardner had said "alright pal i'm going to clip it over the wall into your top right hand corner, good luck". 

 

 

i like that they scored and our fans cheered and clapped louder than theirs

 

 

Isn't he hopping to see over the wall? 

 

Fair enough, it's more speculation. I'm not saying he should have saved it, but does he do that on every free kick?

 

If it only takes a second or so far the ball to travel then it's even more important that he gives himself the best chance of saving it. If he's in the air on every free kick then he's always going to be rooted if it's a half decent strike.

 

He hasn't conceded too many from dead balls has he?

[shen]

There's this bald fella behind me that shouts nonsense all game and after the whistle when WBA fans were singing "You're gonna win f--k all", he shouted "AHHH YOUVE NEVER WON F--K ALL LADS".  Two seconds later, he corrected himself by saying "Actually, they won the 68 cup final, Jeff Astle"

 

Not only that, but saying "You've never won fukk all" basically means they've won something.

[AKCJ]

He hasn't conceded too many from dead balls has he?

 

 

I thought about this yesterday to be fair.

 

We don't seem to concede an obscene amount of FKs but our "freekick difference" must be atrocious over the last few years.

 

Can literally only think of Knocky's efforts against Sheff Wed and Derby. Stretching back further I can only think of Gradel vs MK.

[shen]

I thought about this yesterday to be fair.

 

We don't seem to concede an obscene amount of FKs but our "freekick difference" must be atrocious over the last few years.

 

Can literally only think of Knocky's efforts against Sheff Wed and Derby. Stretching back further I can only think of Gradel vs MK.

 

Hasn't Gallagher scored some as well? But yes, we don't seem to score many direct free kicks.

[ScouseFox]

Fair enough, it's more speculation. I'm not saying he should have saved it, but does he do that on every free kick?

 

If it only takes a second or so far the ball to travel then it's even more important that he gives himself the best chance of saving it. If he's in the air on every free kick then he's always going to be rooted if it's a half decent strike.

 

He hasn't conceded too many from dead balls has he?

 

dunno, does look pretty weird watching it back but i ain't a goalkeeper nor a goalkeeper expert so they might all do it or he might never do it and just got caught out trying to see what was going on. 

 

I thought about this yesterday to be fair.

 

We don't seem to concede an obscene amount of FKs but our "freekick difference" must be atrocious over the last few years.

 

Can literally only think of Knocky's efforts against Sheff Wed and Derby. Stretching back further I can only think of Gradel vs MK.

 

gally scored free kicks pretty regularly from 2010 to about 2012. since him we must've scored maybe 2 in 4 years. we even teed one up for vardy to have a shot at the weekend ffs. we're shit at them.

[Rincewind]

Not only that, but saying "You've never won fukk all" basically means they've won something.

True. Like when people say 'I didn't say nuffing' Which means they said something.

 

On Okazaki, he seems to be improving. He is taking players on and getting by them more. He seemed to step up when Vardy was playing with an injury before his op.

[shen]

dunno, does look pretty weird watching it back but i ain't a goalkeeper nor a goalkeeper expert so they might all do it or he might never do it and just got caught out trying to see what was going on. 

 

 

gally scored free kicks pretty regularly from 2010 to about 2012. since him we must've scored maybe 2 in 4 years. we even teed one up for vardy to have a shot at the weekend ffs. we're shit at them.

 

Or the Huth one... It's weird given we have Fuchs who's an expert at these and Mahrez who loves to curl one in from tight angles.

[ScouseFox]

Or the Huth one... It's weird given we have Fuchs who's an expert at these and Mahrez who loves to curl one in from tight angles.

I'm pretty sure the huth one was just to take the piss. we were gonna win it was against his old club it was all a great laugh.

on saturday we really needed a goal and had a great positioned free kick and decided to let vardy just scuff it along the floor at the keeper. mental.

[fuchsntf]

Fair enough, it's more speculation. I'm not saying he should have saved it, but does he do that on every free kick?

 

If it only takes a second or so far the ball to travel then it's even more important that he gives himself the best chance of saving it. If he's in the air on every free kick then he's always going to be rooted if it's a half decent strike.

 

He hasn't conceded too many from dead balls has he?

Now go and analyse every chance that our strikers missed.

[ian_marshall]

I appreciate that it's a cracking effort from Gardner, but Schmeichel really does make Gardner's decision on where to place the ball very easy indeed. Schmeichel was stood too far to the left with no chance of getting anywhere near it so long as it's on target, something which was emphasised by Gardner's placement over power. If Schmeichel stands more centrally it becomes a far more difficult decision for Gardner as not only does he have to give more thought to where to place the ball but he also has to consider the amount of power in the strike in order to beat the keeper.

[Thracian]

While King provides more of a goal threat, as yesterday showed, he doesn't off the same defensive capabilities. 

So essentially, if it comes down to an either/or between Kante and King, you're essentially changing your philosophy to some extent.

King played well last night but he's a different type of player than Kante. I can't remember applauding King like I do Kante for the interceptions/blocks and tackles he makes but then he is quite something special.

King is completely different to Kante including his strengths and weaknesses. Kante is all-action, very easily seen and just the sort of obvious trier fans love. But he's more than that. He wins the ball - not by accident but because of his timing of when to pounce which is the split second his "prey" has lost even a modicum of control.

Another strength is his incredible athleticism at a faster pace than most players can sustain. He also tends to tackle on his feet unlike, say, Danny Tiatto in the past again, again unlike tiatto he doesn't go giving daft fouls away or getting himself unnecessarily booked or sent off. Latterly he's also tried to get forward a bit more although it's not his natural forte.

King is understated in every way and never elaborates or does more than he need, even when he scores goals. Look at his goal - he turned an easily missable chance into a tap-in because he stayed cool and just did what was necessary to hit the net. He didn't blast the ball and risk it going over the bar but thought first and placed it into the corner. Even only others last night had been so clinical, especially Shinji and Morgan.

But to suggest he doesn't offer the same defensible qualities as Kante is misleading. His style is different, no question and even his strengths but King defends admirably in many ways - shadowing people, covering spaces, aerially and through his thoughtfulness in where to play the ball quickly.

What he's not so good at, and where Kante excels, is tracking people, particularly for pace, dealing with being turned by the runner and pinching the ball.

But then Kante doesn't score or make many goals or pass the ball so quickly or accurately so what we've actually got is two excellent players who do things differently and, check for yourself, but so many of King's goals are sublime.

As I said last night, I'm just glad Ranieri's got him doing some attacking again. He made a good goal for Shinji against Spurs and played a lot of forward or crteative passes last night rather than just the safe pass

We conceded two goals last night but I seem to remember West Brom causing us problems from free-kicks in the past - they were very accurate and dangrous yesterday, for sure and that's where one of their goals came from. The other was plain and simply the fault of Huth in not being sufficiently alert to the scorer's run and then getting uncharacteristically outmuscled on the ball as well

Yes, West Brom had two or three other decent chances but it's hard to remember Kasper having saves to make or the visitors tearing us apart with their play. A man on the spare most might help for free-kicks though.

[MonmoreStef]

I'm still feeling so deflated. We did very little wrong and on another day win comfortably but I suppose that equals things out after our very ugly win against Norwich. Chelsea drew at home to a couple of very average sides this time last season so certainly not a catastrophe. I'll feel so much better tonight though If Swansea, Liverpool and West Ham do us favours.

[Countryfox]

There's this bald fella behind me that shouts nonsense all game and after the whistle when WBA fans were singing "You're gonna win f--k all", he shouted "AHHH YOUVE NEVER WON F--K ALL LADS".  Two seconds later, he corrected himself by saying "Actually, they won the 68 cup final, Jeff Astle"

 

Think they won it 5 times.   Not a bad haul.

[shen]

I'm pretty sure the huth one was just to take the piss. we were gonna win it was against his old club it was all a great laugh.

on saturday we really needed a goal and had a great positioned free kick and decided to let vardy just scuff it along the floor at the keeper. mental.

 

Oh it most certainly was, but you don't get many opportunities to test your direct free kick skills in a match.

I appreciate trying to mix it up to keep the opposition guessing what's going to happen. Laying it off to Vardy wasn't a terrible call.

But looking at that Gardner free kick, where no-one was around him to dummy and few players we're looking to pounce on a rebound, it really shouldn't be that difficult to score every now and then.