Honesty.

[Spudulike]

Right. I've decided that's it for me. I did my bitching and moaning yesterday. The ref was a total twat but it's over now, the game finished 2-2 and that's the end of it. Time to move on.

 

...but it's not the end of it. Vardy will miss at least one crucial match because of the ref's incompetence. Don't think it's the end when you see us launching long high balls up to our number 23 next Sunday.

[Webbo]

...but it's not the end of it. Vardy will miss at least one crucial match because of the ref's incompetence. Don't think it's the end when you see us launching long high balls up to our number 23 next Sunday.

Moaning's not going to change any of that.

[AKCJ]

Someone has just pointed out that Jon Moss looks like a fat Lee Mack. Cracking shout that.

[reynard]

Reid diving was just as clear, minimal/normal contact leading to going down ththe wrong way, theatrically.

Payet should have been in for diving too, both we're on yellows at th time, for more justifiable first yellow cards might I add..

Vardy dived, we all know it deep down, but the inconsistency and lack of mercy was horrible to see from Moss.

Halsey summed it perfectly in the Sun, he went looking for the trouble and could have just not given the penalty, nobody would have said anything. Once he sent Vardy off for diving he had to be on his toes after to be consistent and unfortunately didn't punish Payet or Reid in the same way, he ignored one, and rewarded the other.

The penalties were just daft,

Reid - no pen, got it.

Huth - pen, didn't get it.

Schlupp - no pen, got it.

Idiot.

Reid shouldn't have been on the pitch anyway. Blatent body check on Schlupp having already been booked. Which should have been a second yellow.

Payet should have seen red for the challenge on Vardy out of control studs up and dangerous and even then should have been sent off for diving 20 minutes after Vardy.

There was continuous shoving pushing and holding in the penalty areas by both teams yet he singles out us but doesn't speak to West ham who were just as guilty.

Huth bundled over in the penalty. In fact grappled to the ground by the neck. Personally I think that is potentially dangerous play, even Rugby punished such offences with a 10 minute sin bin as they realise how potentially dangerous this type of play is. Definite penalty.

 

The ref spoilt a good match between two decent teams. The players didn't help themselves by frankly being rather thick about things.

Vardy's reaction after the red card was not forgivable.

 

And then there were the simply countless missed fouls and the fact that he didn't take control of the game. He's a bottler and incompetent.

The referee was not up to the game mentally nor physically he was often behind the run of play and in both ways isn't fit enough to officiate at this level of the game.

[Finnegan]

See, I've got less problem with Vardy's reaction to the sending off than the way he went down. Punishing a player for being emotional in a tense situation is just retarded. I mean Drogba grabbing a TV camera and shouting "it's a ****ing disgrace" down it is a bit far but generally speaking, it's what we want, isn't it?

It's like this crap about booking players for "excessive celebration" or whatever the term is. Just stupid.

And the gall of the FA to charge the club for not controlling their players when the ref had absolutely no control of events is just shocking.

Absolutely abysmal.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

See, I've got less problem with Vardy's reaction to the sending off than the way he went down. Punishing a player for being emotional in a tense situation is just retarded. I mean Drogba grabbing a TV camera and shouting "it's a ****ing disgrace" down it is a bit far but generally speaking, it's what we want, isn't it?

It's like this crap about booking players for "excessive celebration" or whatever the term is. Just stupid.

And the gall of the FA to charge the club for not controlling their players when the ref had absolutely no control of events is just shocking.

Absolutely abysmal.

Look the professional game has to set the standard thats also expected in the ameatur game - sadly, everything gets copied, even the sorry case of not kicking the ball out for injuries / giving it back.

That's why he'd been charged - it's a poor example to set and the sort of thing that stops referees coming into the game at the lower level.

That in turn effects the standard of refereeing - because if you've got a broader base, you have more referees to chose from and that pushes up the standard.

[Max Power]

Right. I've decided that's it for me. I did my bitching and moaning yesterday. The ref was a total twat but it's over now, the game finished 2-2 and that's the end of it. Time to move on.

Exactly. It's just another hurdle to overcome on the path to glory. Focus on Swansea now.

[Carl the Llama]

See, I've got less problem with Vardy's reaction to the sending off than the way he went down. Punishing a player for being emotional in a tense situation is just retarded. I mean Drogba grabbing a TV camera and shouting "it's a ****ing disgrace" down it is a bit far but generally speaking, it's what we want, isn't it?

It's like this crap about booking players for "excessive celebration" or whatever the term is. Just stupid.

And the gall of the FA to charge the club for not controlling their players when the ref had absolutely no control of events is just shocking.

Absolutely abysmal.

Cannot begin to express how wholeheartedly I agree with this.  Charge Moss for being a useless twat who put the 'good name' of FA appointed referees in jeopardy, don't take it out on us for having players who react like humans to massive twats.

[inckley fox]

Carragher's praise of him was one of the most annoying things I've ever read. He acknowledges that Huth should get a penalty and that Reid probably dives, but pardons the ref on the grounds that he can't see Reid diving, as if a ref's positioning has nothing to do with anything. And he doesn't think Vardy should be booked in the first half (and therefore sent off for the next yellow) but 'can understand' why he was. Then he concludes that the ref had a great game and got all the big decisions right (except for a penalty, a non-penalty and, perhaps, a player being sent off - which changed the entire course of the game).

 

There's a reason why several major names in refereeing are criticising his display, or at very least a large number of the key decisions. But there's always some media whore who comes out with a load of garbled contradictory nonsense in a half-hearted bid to sound like they're capable of thinking outside of the box. The referee was appalling, and the potentially costly aftermath of it just laughable. But if it's a two game ban, and we can play on the front foot and beat Swansea, then I think we'll be very close. Something like this might even help to drive them on.

[Thracian]

He got caught trying to get a penalty. It was clear to me. Shocking refereeing today overall though.

 

 

Why shouldn't a player go down if he's held or fouled in the penalty area? You'll be saying next that people who've been burgled shouldn't dial 999 but leave the police to find out for themselves. 

[Jattdogg]

Why shouldn't a player go down if he's held or fouled in the penalty area? You'll be saying next that people who've been burgled shouldn't dial 999 but leave the police to find out for themselves.

Its clearly a debatable call imho. I personally feel that he played for the foul and dont like when players do that per say. Its pretty clear it has this forum divided and i understand why.

[erlee]

honesty... + good karma

 

[SpinneyHillRanger]

vardy being headlocked 8th minute

 

no penalty, no media uproar, no analysis from pundits about how good Moss positioning was to see this, no warning to ogbonna even though doesn't need a warning as ball was in play

[Rusko187]

vardy being headlocked 8th minute

 

no penalty, no media uproar, no analysis from pundits about how good Moss positioning was to see this, no warning to ogbonna even though doesn't need a warning as ball was in play

 

I found Ogbonna to be getting out of this lightly, noticed on a number of occasions he got players in headlocks yet goes un-punished. 

[Bob Weasel Fox]

honesty... + good karma

I hope and trust we finish this season off on a high

[The Doctor]

Carragher's praise of him was one of the most annoying things I've ever read. He acknowledges that Huth should get a penalty and that Reid probably dives, but pardons the ref on the grounds that he can't see Reid diving, as if a ref's positioning has nothing to do with anything. And he doesn't think Vardy should be booked in the first half (and therefore sent off for the next yellow) but 'can understand' why he was. Then he concludes that the ref had a great game and got all the big decisions right (except for a penalty, a non-penalty and, perhaps, a player being sent off - which changed the entire course of the game).

 

There's a reason why several major names in refereeing are criticising his display, or at very least a large number of the key decisions. But there's always some media whore who comes out with a load of garbled contradictory nonsense in a half-hearted bid to sound like they're capable of thinking outside of the box. The referee was appalling, and the potentially costly aftermath of it just laughable. But if it's a two game ban, and we can play on the front foot and beat Swansea, then I think we'll be very close. Something like this might even help to drive them on.

 

In fairness it does - if the ref can't see it they can't give it, or if their view gives a false impression then they could. Problem there is the linesman has let him down and he's too desperate to give the penalty anyway.

[inckley fox]

In fairness it does - if the ref can't see it they can't give it, or if their view gives a false impression then they could. Problem there is the linesman has let him down and he's too desperate to give the penalty anyway.

 

I'm sure positioning is an aspect of good refereeing too. If you're too fat to keep up it doesn't make an incorrect decision the right one, it just means you should be out on the moors walking the calories off rather than obliterating a perfectly good game of football.

[Spudulike]

Where can you get those prayer flags from (the ones around the top of the stands) ?? I want (need!) one to hang up.

[shen]

Huth bundled over in the penalty. In fact grappled to the ground by the neck. Personally I think that is potentially dangerous play, even Rugby punished such offences with a 10 minute sin bin as they realise how potentially dangerous this type of play is. Definite penalty.

 

Am I the only one then that saw how Huth was holding Kouyaté in more or less the same way that he was being held himself? Can it be a penalty if he himself fouls an opposition player?

[The Doctor]

Am I the only one then that saw how Huth was holding Kouyaté in more or less the same way that he was being held himself? Can it be a penalty if he himself fouls an opposition player?

The West ham player was behind him with the arm coming round his neck. How could huth be holding him in the same way?

[Guest ttfn]

This is the Huth foul from Moss' view - absolutely no way that what he's doing to Kouyate (absolutely nothing) is comparable to what is being done to him by Ogbonna.

Absolutely unfathomable decision not to give a penalty for that.

[shen]

The West ham player was behind him with the arm coming round his neck. How could huth be holding him in the same way?

 

Kouyate was the player in front of Huth. Huthie was doing his best to hold Kouyate down as he was about to jump, only to be held down by Ogbonna. See for yourself:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhDWxXDMgLM

[shen]

This is the Huth foul from Moss' view - absolutely no way that what he's doing to Kouyate (absolutely nothing) is comparable to what is being done to him by Ogbonna.

Absolutely unfathomable decision not to give a penalty for that.

 

What do you mean? He's got BOTH arms on Kouyate for Christ's sake! There can be no discussion that Ogbonna fouls Huth, but since when is what Huth does allowed?

[Guest ttfn]

What do you mean? He's got BOTH arms on Kouyate for Christ's sake! There can be no discussion that Ogbonna fouls Huth, but since when is what Huth does allowed?

He's got to put his arms somewhere - where are they supposed to go - his hands are limp on Kouyate, he's not putting any pressure on him at all.

[shen]

He's got to put his arms somewhere - where are they supposed to go - his hands are limp on Kouyate, he's not putting any pressure on him at all.

 

You can see on the video he uses his right arm to lean on Kouyate and jump off him, he does put force into it. And he could just leave his left arm by his left side, but he's actually restricting his own jump by holding Kouyate's arm. It's an unnatural position if you prepare for a jump, which leaves the conclusion that Huth was trying to hold down Kouyate. This should come as no surprise as he does it all the time. I'm baffled you won't acknowledge this.